3ghz northwood

[RangerJoe]

i know this should be in the intel section, but i thought i might bring it out to the majority.....check this out....very CRAZY (http://www.amddiyoc.com/adol/3g/3000GHZ.htm) i really think it is odd...but im not sure how northwood's overclock...since it has Quad Data Rate (QDR) instead of DDR, the clock is alot higher....but still....i dont really know what to think of all this...they are using a 2.2 ghz northwood @ 1.9 vcore. they have a swiftech MCX-462 w/ delta 5800 rpm fan. asus mobo, and kingmax ram w/ CAS 2.5......you all check it out and tell me what you think....

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by RangerJoe
i know this should be in the intel section, but i thought i might bring it out to the majority.....check this out....very CRAZY (http://www.amddiyoc.com/adol/3g/3000GHZ.htm) i really think it is odd...but im not sure how northwood's overclock...since it has Quad Data Rate (QDR) instead of DDR, the clock is alot higher....but still....i dont really know what to think of all this...they are using a 2.2 ghz northwood @ 1.9 vcore. they have a swiftech MCX-462 w/ delta 5800 rpm fan. asus mobo, and kingmax ram w/ CAS 2.5......you all check it out and tell me what you think....

how the heck do u get the multiplayer to 20?

[RangerJoe]

they start out at like 18 or something

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by RangerJoe
they start out at like 18 or something

oh, so intel mobos can have higher multiplyers?
ive never seen any amd boards go over 12.5..

[HaM]

I think the new Iwill XP333-R has a multiplier of 15 at most when the chip is unlocked... not to sure.. i really want this board, but spent my money on my watercooling and other stuff :(

[Dissolved]

could you hack your mobo to do over 12.5 mp?
hmmm

[Luie]

I never knew you can change the muiltplier in a Intel CPU?!?
How on earth do they change it??? Or is my knowledge of Intel CPUs are wrong...

Can anyone confirm this?

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by luie
I never knew you can change the muiltplier in a Intel CPU?!?
How on earth do they change it??? Or is my knowledge of Intel CPUs are wrong...

Can anyone confirm this?

they can change just like amd's i guess.. im not 100% sure but ive never own'd a intel..

[Burning Phoenix]

multiplyers are at a minimun of 14X for P4's (14 x 100= 1400)
Mine is a 18 x 100 = 1800mhz

[Luie]

There is some new bios for Intel mobo!!!!
"Red Storm" bios known as "Red Storm Overclocking Bios"
I can read chinese hehe:D

I got on to their forum and got some amazing information! hehe

The guy uses air cooled!!!!Swiftech MCX-462!!!
2.2 Northwood at 1.9Vcore.
This is his rig when he oc'ed his cpu at 2926Mhz:

a.Intel Pentium4 Northwood 2.2G(Vcore:1.82)
b.Asus P4S333 Rev 1.01(Bios:1002)
c.KingMax DDR333 CL2.5 256MB DDRRAM(Vddr:2.9V)
d.Canopus X21 GeForce3 Ti500 64MB DDR SDRAM(Core:260MHz Ram:560MHz)
e.Intel PRO 100/S NIC
f.Seagate Barracuda ATA IV 40GB 7200RPM(C:18G NTFS5, D:22G NTFS5)
g.Pioneer 16X DVD
h.Plextor 2410TA CD-R/RW
i.Teac 1.44MB FDD
j.Delta 350W PSU
k.Nidec P4-478 Fan
l.SGI 1600SW TFT LCD
m.Microsoft Windows XP Professional
n.Datonator XP 23.11

For that 2926Mhz oc, he used the new orb hsf for P4 mobo. He added 2 more case fans around it.

Later he got a Swifttech MCX-462 hs and oc'ed it to 3Ghz!!!
In the forum, he said he will get watercool later and try oc the cpu to a higher speed!

[Luie]

For anyone interested and know chinese, the forum is:
http://forum.pcdvd.com.tw/

[Luie]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!
Some dude overclocked their ATHLON XP to 4GHZ!!!!
yes!!!I said 4000MHZ!!!!

http://forum.pcdvd.com.tw/showthread.php?threadid=62400&perpage=10&pagenumber=2

[Burning Phoenix]

As far as i know that is impossible with the current boards that i know of.

Here is the math using 2 AMD motherboards , one with a high multiplier and the other with a high FSB.

SOYO Dragon SY-K7V has a FSB at a max of 233 and a max muliplier of 14. 14 x 233 = 3262mhz

DFI AD70-SR has a FSB max of 250 and a max multiplier of 12.5.
12.5 x 250 = 3125.

Those are the highest clockable boards i know of!

[Dissolved]

my mobo goes up to 250fsb.. i wish they made ddr that fast ;)

[Luie]

Well, probably the Athlon XP is fake...hmmm. stupid ass....
But, I am sure the other information is true.

But I havn't found the "Red Storm" bios yet....

[David]

Originally posted by Dissolved
could you hack your mobo to do over 12.5 mp?
hmmm

Change the chip mulitpliers using the l6 bridges. I think 13 is the highest for Durons and tbirds- not sure.

[wild_andy_c]

Originally posted by Dissolved


how the heck do u get the multiplayer to 20?

It s normal for the multipier to be that high since the processor runs 22 x 100 normally. This is an engineering sample h'owever and the multiplier can be changed in the BIOS.

Remember P4 s different to Athlon, as Athlon is to P3, as P3 is to K6 and so on - different architechture - different rules.

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by penguinfreak


Change the chip mulitpliers using the l6 bridges. I think 13 is the highest for Durons and tbirds- not sure.

could u search and see if the multi could go higher? like 15 :)

[David]

You need to see how the L6b bridges are configured. 2^4 = 16 different configs.
starts at 5 so there should be a 5.5, 6, 6.5, 7, 7.5, 8, 8.5, 9, 9.5, 10, 10.5, 11, 11.5, 12, 12.5.

I think that above 12.5 is up to either the mobo or the l2, l3, l4, l5 bridges.

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by penguinfreak
You need to see how the L6b bridges are configured. 2^4 = 16 different configs.
starts at 5 so there should be a 5.5, 6, 6.5, 7, 7.5, 8, 8.5, 9, 9.5, 10, 10.5, 11, 11.5, 12, 12.5.

I think that above 12.5 is up to either the mobo or the l2, l3, l4, l5 bridges.

ok, well lets say there was a way to get 15x multi...
a friend a few months ago told me high multi's stress the mobo/chipset alot... is that true?

ok, well the best oc ive got very stable at was 11.5x140..
memory wont take a mhz more.. and when i try and boot into 12x or 12.5 times, i can only boot at 133mhz(default fsb) i got 12x135, but 3dmark and UT wont play.. they would load, and shorty after disappear..

ive posted in 3 different fourms about 3dmark disappearing when i try high mem timings or high multi's but ive got no good helpfull answers yet.. heck, i even spent like 2+ hours reading liek every post on 3dmark2k1 forum on nething related to my hardware that could help me.. and still nothing.. ive had ppl help me out a crapload, and i even tryed upping voltage on my ram/gpu (i have dip switchs on my 7dxr to do so 1.6 and 1.7v i can switch to for both of them)

so ive tryed everything i and others could think of..

[MikeTimbers]

So the P4 is running at 3GHz but it still takes 1m5s to do 1million places of SuperPI. My XP1500 (10x150) takes 1m14s. This super wonderful P4 at 100% "faster" is only 14% "quicker" than a measly little Palomino.

The only thing these P4s do better than Athlon XPs is suck!

Just my opinion, of course. YMMV.

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by MikeTimbers
So the P4 is running at 3GHz but it still takes 1m5s to do 1million places of SuperPI. My XP1500 (10x150) takes 1m14s. This super wonderful P4 at 100% "faster" is only 14% "quicker" than a measly little Palomino.

The only thing these P4s do better than Athlon XPs is suck!

Just my opinion, of course. YMMV.


whats 1m5s mean?
if its intel related, thats why im asking ;)
ive never heard tha term be4, thanks

[wild_andy_c]

Athlon XP and similar processors support 5bit FID, hence much higher multipliers are possible.

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by wild_andy_c
Athlon XP and similar processors support 5bit FID, hence much higher multipliers are possible.

whats the max multi on an xp althon?

[wild_andy_c]

I don't have the model 7 spec sheets in front of me at the moment - take a look at the processors spec sheets at AMD's site in order to find out (I'm working hard at the moment)

[Sony]

Originally posted by Dissolved



whats 1m5s mean?
if its intel related, thats why im asking ;)
ive never heard tha term be4, thanks

1m5s = 1 Minute 5 Seconds

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by Sony


1m5s = 1 Minute 5 Seconds

explain more :)

[RangerJoe]

my motherboard will let me go to 166 fsb and 15 multiplier....

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by RangerJoe
my motherboard will let me go to 166 fsb and 15 multiplier....

2490mhz... so lets see you pull that!

[JetMech]

One of the true reasons to flash ones bios would be to increase the number of multipliers available for that board. What I see looking at the Sandra figures is the fact that the northwood has a definite potential to reach the 3.5G that Intel demonstrated earlier last year. As steppings increase the possibilities should be a lot better. I don't think 3.0 is a possibility using Rdram yet because the fsb times 8 = RDram frequency. If the QDR is 700+ then RDram would be running at 1400+. That's not possible yet

[wild_andy_c]

Originally posted by JetMech
One of the true reasons to flash ones bios would be to increase the number of multipliers available for that board. What I see looking at the Sandra figures is the fact that the northwood has a definite potential to reach the 3.5G that Intel demonstrated earlier last year. As steppings increase the possibilities should be a lot better. I don't think 3.0 is a possibility using Rdram yet because the fsb times 8 = RDram frequency. If the QDR is 700+ then RDram would be running at 1400+. That's not possible yet

So Intel engineer their own BIOS and custom design a PLL to suit their needs by means of RAM, AGP & PCI dividers - even if the public never see one mainboard the same - it shows how a piece of silicon can run at 3.5Ghz

[KeyboardCowboy]

Originally posted by luie
OMG!!!!!!!!!!
Some dude overclocked their ATHLON XP to 4GHZ!!!!
yes!!!I said 4000MHZ!!!!

http://forum.pcdvd.com.tw/showthread.php?threadid=62400&perpage=10&pagenumber=2

i am going to have to take your word for it