View Full Version : Good examples for tualtin board anyone?
Asus, Abit or Microstar? Give me some examples bcoz i'm about to buy one.
SwedeDude
01-04-02, 04:21 AM
People seems to like Abit and Gigabyte
The specific models are:
ABit:
ST6
ST6-RAID
VH6T
Giga:
60XET
60XET-C
These be best for Tualatin
:D
Bonka has it.
Any of those will do.
People usually choose between the Abit ST6 and the GB board though.
60XET
60XET-C (no voltage setting dip-switch, need to solder by yourself, no Creative chip, cheaper)
zoopa_man
01-04-02, 10:36 PM
ask oldfart about the gigabyte boards hell back me up on this...they don't overclock well.
i'm in the same boat as you looking for a board to run a cele 1.1 on. Right now i'm thinking abit ST6 is the better option..will have to do the vid pin mod to get more voltage out of it but I guess that's better then having a board that won't overclock like oldfart did. Check around at some other posts and you'll see his problems.
Yea I thought those GB Boards were going to be good but Oldfart seems to have some serious problems with it.
Like when he changes his fsb a little, it will reboot when he sets to shut down and stuff.
I think it's another buggy board.
Yodums
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oldfart
01-04-02, 10:48 PM
I hope it's something that can be fixed with a BIOS update, but I would stay clear until it comes.
pappypete
01-04-02, 11:06 PM
It's to late for me, it'll be here Tuesday. I guess if it doesn't
work out, I'll sell it and get what I was going to get in the
first place.....Abit....
Boy am I glad that GA60XET was sold out and I got the ST6-Raid. Sounds like there's quite a few problems creeping up with those boards.
Well the board are fairly new I think we'll have to give it sometime for the bios updates and such.
Yodums
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ask oldfart about the gigabyte boards hell back me up on this...they don't overclock well
Read my sig....Mine overclocks fine....
6502kid
01-05-02, 12:07 AM
Mine also seems to be overclocking pretty good.
So far. It only 2 days old, so its kind of hard to say for
sure.:p
What we need for it is a bios update that lets you either
run your ram at Host-pc clk, or a 3/4 ram speed divisor
option of some sort.
Please track down a beta bios with these features and post
it here NOW !:burn:
my Asus is a pretty nice board... o/c's pretty well too...
Someones getting greedy for high FSB speeds!
But really, unless the RAM can handle 166 or so mhz I can see the point of running your ram on a divisor to make it lower than the FSB in order to increase stability....That would be like taking one step forward....Two steps backward.
May as well run the RAM at the highest FSB it will support or just get faster RAM! I know if I was designing a mobo I woulden't include a ram divisor for the very reason I mentioned above! Would be nice to run the RAM at 166 mhz while running the FSB at 133 or 150 mhz though....But no 81x mobo supports that!
oldfart
01-05-02, 12:19 AM
I did a test on my PIII 1G EB CUSL2 with FSB/RAM/PCI 150/150/37.5 (1125 MHz) and 160/120/40 (1200 MHz). The 1125 setup was faster because of the better mem bandwidth,
6502kid
01-05-02, 12:23 AM
I am greedy !:D
The problem is this pesky cpu has the potential to overclock
to some insane speeds, I think.
It does 158 fine at default vcore. (at cas3)
Guess I will have to be stuck putting along at 1400-1425mhz
I guess so I can run my memory at fastest speeds. :(
Waaaaa !:confused:
6502kid
01-05-02, 12:25 AM
I want fsb's so high the ram will be at 150 or above even
at hostclk-pci clk !
Thank god you don't have a turbo car! The boost would be so high the head would be on the moon right now!:D
I too was having a tough time deciding what Tualatin board to get. I settled on the Abit ST6-Raid. Found it at a local OEM shop for $80.00. They said it was a discontinued item, and they wanted to get rid of their last one. I'm real happy with it.
I'm waiting to see more feed back on the 1.0a's and the 1.1a's before I buy a Tualatin cpu. Was leaning towards the 1.1a. For now, I'm running a Coppermine 733. I'm using 2 sticks of Crucial pc133 CL2, one 256 & 1 128 (BTW, this board is just as stable with 1,2, or 3 dimms plugged in).
Unfornunately, I can only achieve a stable max memory bus speed of about 140 @ 2,5/7,2,2 and 145 @ 3,7/9,2,2. The difference in some gaming benchmarks were only slightly better with the 145 fsb and slower ram timings, showing that the slghtly higher cpu clock produced better gains then the faster ram timings.
This setup only allowed me to run my 733 at only 800. Overall, I was getting slightly slower benchmarks then My old board and cpu combo (Soyo 6BA+IV with Coppermine 600e@800) even with the 12 mhz increase in memory bus speed. I guess that's the difference between the BX and 815 chipsets.
Anyways, I wanted to really push the 733 past 800. Since the ram was holding me back, I started testing using the 3/4 ram divider.
So far, I'm up to a 167 bus and my cpu is at 918. So far, stable. And even though my memory bus is only at 125, the extra 112 mhz I was able to squeeze out of the cpu gave a good boost in 3d game benchmarks (10% to 15% gain).
So, at least for me and my 733, the 3/4 memory divider is a welcomed feature. Dropping the memory speed by 20mhz to increase the cpu speed by 120 mhz was well worth it for this setup.
Long live Abit!!!
6502kid....If you have a look in the manual you can actually set up a variety of FSB speeds and RAM speeds using the dip switches....One that stands out here is the 166.67mhz FSB speed with the 125.00mhz RAM speed....Give it a go!
6502kid
01-05-02, 04:05 AM
Fluid,
Got that in the manual, but it seems one of the items
not included with the XET-C version is the dip switches.
This tells me that those functions COULD be enabled
in the BIOS maybe, some kinda way.
I attempted to get to that setting via the 100mhz memory
setting, but it didnt like it. Maybe the Kingmax wont
run that slow ?!?:rolleyes:
One great thing about this motherboard.
I dropped 16c in CPU temps when I took the
processor out of my Soyo TISU and put it in the XET-C
Went from 41c idle or load, to 25c idle or load.
I think the temp monitors on both these boards are hosed.
Or, this chips runs so cool they are unable to detect it correctly.
Either way, I would recommend either of them.
oldfart
01-05-02, 07:56 AM
I saw the temp thing. If you are talking about the temp monitoring tool that comes with it, it does not work. It always says 25C no matter what.
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