PIII 700E and Asus Tusl2 overclocking, please help!

[Leto0768]

:o Hi, I know there is a lot of information here in this forum, but I still not be able to overclock my CPU to 933.
Have:
PIII 700E
Asus TUSL2 latest Bios
2x PC133 Infinion CL2 256MB
Elsa Gladiac 511 MX400
Golden Orb Cooler

Problem:
managed it to overclock it to 894mhz, but every time I change the FSB:RAM:PCI to 133:100:33 the PC didn't start anymore.
Also 133:133:33 will not go.
Removed every other PCI card, raised in steps the CPU Power until 1.80V,even tried to raise mainboard power to 3.65V, no go.
I know that the CPU has 100mhz FSB, but from all info until know it should be possible to rais FSB to 133mhz.

Solutions?

THX
Leto

[Pinky]

You may need more than 1.80v to boot. If your cooling can handle it, you can safely raise it to 1.95v... golden orbs are pretty crappy coolers, you may need to find something better to get the higher voltages.

[pappypete]

First thing I would suggest......check temps, you might need a
better HS/F. The G'orb is not the greatest for o/cing.

[soil]

you have a friend using other Cumine/Tualatin MB? put your 700E into theirs and see whether it o/c better

also check the bios whether the Vcore and Vio are lower than specified

also check the RAM in other MB and see whether they run as specified

reduce RAM timing to 333 (bios stable setting)

do not use SPD Ram timing

check the RAM using memtest86 and ctspd

borrow a 700E and see whether it can o/c

see your 700E is cA2, cB0 or cD0?

open the case, turn on the air con, up the Vcore to 1.85V, Vio to 3.6V

use thermal paste on heatsink

get better power supply unit (try friend's)

start with one ram module, try both, try all slots

start with the only essential PCI card (no PCI card is essential unless ATA adaptor or SCSI)

well actually I'm also using goldenorb 36 degree when surfing @1.75V Vcore, so make sure you properly fix the heatsink

[deez]

Originally posted by Leto0768
:o Hi, I know there is a lot of information here in this forum, but I still not be able to overclock my CPU to 933.
Have:
PIII 700E
Asus TUSL2 latest Bios
2x PC133 Infinion CL2 256MB
Elsa Gladiac 511 MX400
Golden Orb Cooler

Problem:
managed it to overclock it to 894mhz, but every time I change the FSB:RAM:PCI to 133:100:33 the PC didn't start anymore.
Also 133:133:33 will not go.
Removed every other PCI card, raised in steps the CPU Power until 1.80V,even tried to raise mainboard power to 3.65V, no go.
I know that the CPU has 100mhz FSB, but from all info until know it should be possible to rais FSB to 133mhz.

Solutions?

THX
Leto

What bios are you using??? if you have 1010 try using bios 1009 from Asus...i found voltage adjustment to be higher (up to 2.10v) with my 1100E

I think 1010 is designed for tualatin cpu's

lemme know what happens if you switch to 1009....just got my tusl2c and still messin with it

[deez]

And Welcome to the forum

[mikester]

just a little question for ya,

will a normal p3 700e cumine work in an ST6? wouldnt there be problems with the voltages?

[Yodums]

Originally posted by mikester
just a little question for ya,

will a normal p3 700e cumine work in an ST6? wouldnt there be problems with the voltages?

There would be no problem.

And yes it would work the ST6 supports any Socket 370 processor Cumine or Tualatin.

[deez]

So Leto...any luck yet?

[jmsandrsn]

Originally posted by Leto0768
Problem:
managed it to overclock it to 894mhz, but every time I change the FSB:RAM:PCI to 133:100:33 the PC didn't start anymore.
Also 133:133:33 will not go.


It sounds like it could be the cold boot problem since the PC wouldn't start. I'm not sure if the TUSL2 has this problem or not...the CUSL2 certainly does.

Try this to see if this makes a difference...if it makes a difference you could then try the wire trick to increase the default voltage.

1) In the BIOS, increase the Vcore to something you feel comfortable with. Maybe something between 1.8 -1.9V. Then set the FSB to 100 and then reboot.

2) Right before it starts to load Windows, hit CTRL-ALT-DEL. You need to make sure that you at least wait until it gets past the initial POST screen.

3) You will need to go into the BIOS once it restarts and then increase the FSB to 133 Mhz and then save changes and exit. The voltage should already be set to something higher than default.

4) If the system will now POST(doesn't necessarily have to boot into Windows), I can tell you pretty confidently that you have the cold boot problem. You can fix this by doing the wire trick. Myself or someone else can give you more info on the wire trick if this ends up being the problem.

[oldfart]

Which BIOS are you running? I think 1009 should allow you to go to 2.1 Vcore.

Dont use the 133/100/33. Running ram @ a low speed like that will kill your performance (on any mobo).

[jazztrumpet216]

Don't mean to start arguments, but my Gorb actually kept my old Celeron 600@1026 more stable than my 72W Pelt setup did. Anything under a gig and a Gorb is just fine (make sure you're using ASII, not the Thermaltake stuff, which isn't bad but ASII is better). Past that though, you will have problems and will need to find something better. I think that the BIOS might be the culprit... check it out and see if you have the 1009 or 1010. Check your RAM timings as well. Let us know of any progress you make, and g'luck!

WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!

[Yodums]

Originally posted by jazztrumpet216
Don't mean to start arguments, but my Gorb actually kept my old Celeron 600@1026 more stable than my 72W Pelt setup did. Anything under a gig and a Gorb is just fine (make sure you're using ASII, not the Thermaltake stuff, which isn't bad but ASII is better). Past that though, you will have problems and will need to find something better. I think that the BIOS might be the culprit... check it out and see if you have the 1009 or 1010. Check your RAM timings as well. Let us know of any progress you make, and g'luck!

WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!

I'm sort of with you.

The Gorb is pretty good for computers under 1 gig.

For Celeron they're fairly good as Celeron barely get that hot.

[Flu!d]

It's the cold boot problem all 815E mobo's are suseptable to....You need to up the default vcore using the wire trick.

[deez]

Do all 815E boards boot initially at default voltage then switch to selected voltage when bios is initialized? Is that the problem?

[Flu!d]

That 'seems' to be the case as this problem has been present since the dawn of the 815EP chipset and vidpinning definatly fixes the problem....

Although this might explain a lot....

As quoted by Intel.

"[...] A platform supporting the 0.13 micron technology processor must implement a workaround
required for the A-1 stepping of that processor, identified by CPUID = 6B1h.
The internal control register bit responsible for operation of the THERMTRIP circuit
functionality may power up in an un-initialized state. As a result, THERMTRIP# may be
incorrectly asserted during de-assertion of RESET# at nominal operating temperatures. When
THERMTRIP# is asserted as a result of this, the processor may shut down internally and stop
execution. In addition, when the THERMTRIP# pin is asserted the processor may incorrectly
continue to execute, leading to intermittent system power-on boot failures. The occurrence and
repeatability of failures is system dependent, however all systems and processors are
susceptible to failure. [...]"

Not too sure whether they're just talking about the Tualatin processors or all P6 based processors in general.