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Dabljuh
01-05-02, 09:29 PM
Ok, I finally put my system in the siggie. My prob looks like this. I bought a sys a month or two ago and I dont seem to be able to get it the cpu at a reasonable speed... (Seem to stuck at 1.6+ghz)

thats the CPU, an Athlon XP 1600+ AGKGA Y. here's the complete scripture

AX1600DMT3C
AGKGA 0131MPMW
Y6809350703

First I replaced the bull**** fan (the only one I could get at this time) with a swifty. Hard to get around here. I finally reached 153x10.5 (1.61 GHZ)

I found that I should attempt to unlock the cpu. I learned that conductive silver lacque is illegal in this country. Bad. I tried a lot of different stuff, including a self-made paste of graphite and acrylic lacque, nothing worked. Finally I went to foreign and bought conductive silver stuff. (hell of an expense). back home, i spent two days painting the cpu. during various mispaintings, I went through almost any multiplier possible, but was never able to change it. I decided that the mobo was the reason, and have an unlocked xp at a multi of 10 at around 160mhz fsb. Anything higher would make the system unstable.

Because I had great trouble on the 5V line, including random reboots and voltages dropping below 4.7 and stuff, I bought me a nice Enermax 431. Plus a case. once again, hell of an expense. The system looks good now, and the 5V is really dream-like, but I DONT GET HIGHER THAN BEFORE. The sys is somewhat more stable now since the old 300W PSU was really exhausted, but I'm still at a max of 163 mhz fsb x 10...

Its not the ram. Setting it to 133:100 ratio wouldnt help. Its not the graphics card, since no matter what multiplier I set, the cpu stops working correctly at 1.6 ghz. Its neither anything else. Its the CPU.

The point is - I got a very expensive Swifty on it. I got a great PSU, and a case temp equal ambient temp + 2°C. CPU temp never exceedes 40°C. At 1.75V, its stable up to 1.6ghz, but when I go as high as 1.64, the voltage demands skyrocket to a point where I would need a voltage mod on the mobo - and at this rate, (from 1.75 at 1.6 ghz to 1.85 at 1.64 ghz) a volt mod (to 2.1V) would bring me probably a speed of 1.7 ghz - This is by far not worth the risk and trouble of volt-modding the board.

So can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? This cant just be, I read somewhere the exact stepping I got would be one of the best to overclock - up to 1.75 ghz w/o volt modding. I do not believe in luck (being given a "bad" cpu wouldnt be called luck, though) so what am I doing wrong?

Right now, I run it with 163x10 - everything is running fine (sound, network, graphic), but not being able to clock higher really ****es me on. This is the second post where I ask for help, the first one was because of the PSU - when I was told that a PSU would improve my situation. It did, but not as much as I hoped...

flounder43
01-05-02, 09:37 PM
Have you tried higher multipliers with lower fsb? I can't tell if you were ever successful with that unlock...That fsb is pretty high...

Jeff Bolton
01-05-02, 09:38 PM
i am by no means an expert but an XP 1600+ @ 1600 isn't exactly a feeble overclock. sure you may want more but perhaps 200mhz is all you can do for now????

jeff

LutaWicasa
01-05-02, 10:01 PM
Why didn't you post this in AMD CPU??

Dabljuh
01-05-02, 10:20 PM
@flounder: I cant yet tell If I was successful since the board would not allow me to change the multiplier anyways (stupid beta bios) but I painted the L3 bridges and have a multi of 10 now (out of the box was 10.5). I had the multi at 10.5 for some time, but I never got higher than 1.6 ghz - The only thing I'd like to know is if I could lower the multi even more, how far I could increase the FSB now... Damn ASUS, give a real bios now! (And yes, the FSB is high, earlier when I had nothing but the swifty my guess was the mobo wouldnt work at those speeds, but time prove me wrong)

@Spike: True, true... But I want more, ALL THE WAY MORE... :) no seriously, I mean cpu core is now at a speed of a XP1900+ - And no overclocking was nessecary after I put on the swifty, I did not overclock this one to 1900+, it overclocked itself to that speed - Now I hoped to o'c it to a somewhat impressive number like 1700 or more

@Luta: Cuz I didnt think of it. And this forum is "General Overclocking" and that pretty much is the right thing (although my problems mostly circle around the cpu, you're right. But I could be wrong and indeed something totally different is keeping me from clocking higher)

Yodums
01-05-02, 10:22 PM
This is basically general discussion so its more general about say Microsoft being sued or something.

Try posting in the AMD section you'll get much better help and more quicker responses as this might get moved either way.

Dabljuh
01-05-02, 10:42 PM
Yeh, yeh, I see, this community needs an OFF-TOPIC forum badly... While Microsoft being sued isnt exactly off-topic, pictures of people fishing chickens sure are (and many other topics)...

I forgot about that because I tend to use off-topic forums only when I'm kinda "settled" in a forum and therefore first go for the general stuff when I want to know/post things that are related to the general topic. Kinda tricky, heh ^^

ok ok, I put this one in the AMD cpu forums, if you want to answer, post here

http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56441

Just love to take off the work for the busy moderators :D

flounder43
01-05-02, 10:45 PM
Nice form. We appreciate topic appropriate threads. For a newbie here, you have done well, better than many members.
:)

Dabljuh
01-05-02, 10:53 PM
Yeeeeh a compliment *red*

btw, I happen to hang around in a very puristic forum. Its only two topic forums are

- Games
- Offtopic

Thats hardcore ^^

Btw, I just realize there as many people in the AMD CPU forum... while here, when I returned from checking my topic, already 3 people had read it, and after reading a page over tech stuff, nother 3 have actually posted... Now thats quite some action I say

Update wow, while writing this, already 4 people have read

Jeff Bolton
01-05-02, 10:58 PM
that's why i love this board. so many cool active members that it never takes long for an answer. i love it!

jeff