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iaacp

06-05-08, 08:58 AM

would you pay money to see that?

I think I'll checkout the first "episode".

I like to try things before I go around judging.

Exactly, they're wanting paid for something that should be free. I hope this fails as much as the GT5 demo did (well outside of Europe at least).....

Er... I wouldn't call ~600,000 copies sold in NA and 300,000+ in Asia for what you call a "demo" a failure. You're being pretty dang cynical...

FudgeNuggets

06-05-08, 10:30 AM

Cheator

06-05-08, 11:00 AM

I like to try things before I go around judging.

Be my guest. I aint buying this crap.

shadin

06-05-08, 07:46 PM

I can see arguments for it being free, but what's the difference in paying for this or paying for a printed magazine? I'm not really seeing the huge deal here.

jstutman

06-05-08, 07:48 PM

I got an email today talking about this. all I see is Qore looks queer.

$2.99 an episode or $24.99 Annual

for $24.99 Annual subs can download the game "calling all cars"
Exclusive access to beta's,demo's etc

sound like fileplanet but for the PS3

Cheator

06-05-08, 10:21 PM

I can see arguments for it being free, but what's the difference in paying for this or paying for a printed magazine? I'm not really seeing the huge deal here.
Game reviews, previews, pretty ads, no drm (Read it as many times as you want, even if your eyes fail you), its physical, you can read it on the crapper, and it has interesting content. Unlike the uninteresting content in this.

I got an email today talking about this. all I see is Qore looks queer.

$2.99 an episode or $24.99 Annual

for $24.99 Annual subs can download the game "calling all cars"
Exclusive access to beta's,demo's etc

sound like fileplanet but for the PS3
It doth.

shadin

06-05-08, 11:09 PM

Qore will feature exclusive news, developer interviews, in-depth game previews and behind-the-scenes looks at PlayStation games and special access to game demos, special beta invitations, game add-ons and other downloadable game-related content.

Game reviews, previews, pretty ads, no drm (Read it as many times as you want, even if your eyes fail you), its physical, you can read it on the crapper, and it has interesting content. Unlike the uninteresting content in this.

I dunno... still sounds like the same thing as PSM to me, as long as they provide enough content per episode. Except for being able to read it on the toilet, of course, though maybe you can stream it through your PSP? :D

Cheator

06-05-08, 11:17 PM

I dunno... still sounds like the same thing as PSM to me, as long as they provide enough content per episode. Except for being able to read it on the toilet, of course, though maybe you can stream it through your PSP? :D

Well really, you could play GTA4 on the can, if you wanted to :).

tenchi86

06-05-08, 11:53 PM

Seems like a good idea to me. Whats with all the Heat for a company trying to deliver news on it's frontier to customers?

iaacp

06-06-08, 12:38 AM

Seems like a good idea to me. Whats with all the Heat for a company trying to deliver news on it's frontier to customers?

Clearly its a bad practice :rolleyes:

grayg

06-06-08, 02:29 AM

You would think they would make the first episode free as a taster for everyone...

FudgeNuggets

06-06-08, 07:22 AM

Clearly its a bad practice :rolleyes:

clearly we don't think that it's worth the price or that it should be paid for content :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Hopefully this turns into the next Xbox 360 Diamond Club Card.

Cheator

06-06-08, 01:00 PM

clearly we don't think that it's worth the price or that it should be paid for content :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Hopefully this turns into the next Xbox 360 Diamond Club Card.

Wow! Sony VIP podcasts and demos! all I have to do is pay money....

iaacp

06-07-08, 11:17 AM

clearly we don't think that it's worth the price or that it should be paid for content :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Hopefully this turns into the next Xbox 360 Diamond Club Card.

lol, i remember that thing. except, didn't it have to do with everything but games, and was free?

FudgeNuggets

06-07-08, 12:13 PM

lol, i remember that thing. except, didn't it have to do with everything but games, and was free?

No, that was the worst part about it. You had to PAY an annual fee for it :bang head

iaacp

06-07-08, 12:27 PM

really? mine was free... must have had a deal going at the time or something

jstutman

06-07-08, 02:41 PM

Diamond is still around. https://www.xboxlivediamond.com/interact/customerinfo.aspx
$6.95 per card, benefits include.....

Hollywood Video: Rent one movie or video game and get the second for free.

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PYROMANIAC

06-08-08, 10:58 AM

You're being pretty dang cynical...
he's upset he bought an hddvd drive for the 360.

iaacp, nearly everybody these days calls it a demo because that is what it is. When GT 4 sold 11 million copes, GT 3 sold 15 million copies, GT 2 sold 10 million copies and the original sold 11 million then by those standards 600k is a failure.

gt5 is already out? didn't know that.

FudgeNuggets

06-08-08, 02:50 PM

he's upset he bought an hddvd drive for the 360.

gt5 is already out? didn't know that.

No it's not out, we're talking about the $40 demo called Gran Turismo 5 Prologue

rainless

06-08-08, 06:43 PM

iaacp, nearly everybody these days calls it a demo because that is what it is. When GT 4 sold 11 million copes, GT 3 sold 15 million copies, GT 2 sold 10 million copies and the original sold 11 million then by those standards 600k is a failure.

Sigh... see what happens when I take a leave of absence?

The "demo" fudge said nobody in their right minds would pay 40 dollars for sells six-hundred THOUSAND copies... demo be damned!... and fudge calls it a failure.

His rationale? "All these FULL GAMES sold MILLIONS of copies! The demo is a failure!"

Now we all see what Console Gaming Systems requires: CONSTANT VIGILANCE!

Just so you know... demos have sold for varying amounts of money for as long as demos have existed (I personally paid about $2 at Software Etc for the Prince of Persia 2 demo almost 20 years ago.) I've personally never heard of a demo selling 600,000 units... but I'm sure it has. Hell... I'm sure demos have sold even better. But I also think 600,000 is pretty damned good.

Cheator

06-08-08, 07:08 PM

The "demo" fudge said nobody in their right minds would pay 40 dollars for sells six-hundred THOUSAND copies... demo be damned!... and fudge calls it a failure.

How many wow demos have sold? I know i bought one but not for the same reason as others might.

Fudge is right about this one though. The WoW demo is 2 bucks, this demo is full price. That's the difference, and quite significant. Many of those 600k might have thought it was a full game, only to be extremely disappointed. And the ones that bought the wow disc might have been disappointed too... but not full price disappointed, 2 bucks disappointed.

shadin

06-08-08, 07:55 PM

Sigh... see what happens when I take a leave of absence?

The "demo" fudge said nobody in their right minds would pay 40 dollars for sells six-hundred THOUSAND copies... demo be damned!... and fudge calls it a failure.

His rationale? "All these FULL GAMES sold MILLIONS of copies! The demo is a failure!"

Now we all see what Console Gaming Systems requires: CONSTANT VIGILANCE!

Just so you know... demos have sold for varying amounts of money for as long as demos have existed (I personally paid about $2 at Software Etc for the Prince of Persia 2 demo almost 20 years ago.) I've personally never heard of a demo selling 600,000 units... but I'm sure it has. Hell... I'm sure demos have sold even better. But I also think 600,000 is pretty damned good.

I don't know why they released the Prologue to North America this time around, they should've known that Americans will just whine about it. :) In case anyone has forgotten, Gran Turismo 4 had the same type of Prologue, we just didn't get the love last time here in the States.

Their Prologues tend to have superior content to other full-blown racing games available on the market. I can hold out this time around since I still have a backlog of games to play/finish, but last time around on GT4 I was playing the hell out of the Prologue before the final game came out.

Kuroimaho

06-09-08, 05:08 AM

iaacp, nearly everybody these days calls it a demo because that is what it is. When GT 4 sold 11 million copes, GT 3 sold 15 million copies, GT 2 sold 10 million copies and the original sold 11 million then by those standards 600k is a failure.

Would make more sense comparing to the sales of the other prologues.

I find this qoore weak especially if I take a look at how empty unutilized the PS store is.

FudgeNuggets

06-09-08, 09:48 AM

I don't know why they released the Prologue to North America this time around, they should've known that Americans will just whine about it. :) In case anyone has forgotten, Gran Turismo 4 had the same type of Prologue, we just didn't get the love last time here in the States.

Their Prologues tend to have superior content to other full-blown racing games available on the market. I can hold out this time around since I still have a backlog of games to play/finish, but last time around on GT4 I was playing the hell out of the Prologue before the final game came out.

I never knew there was a demo errr prologue for 4 until I started looking at sales figures.... It's just plain stupid. I really really just do not comprehend the people who paid $40 for this and are satisfied..... I mean, I think I'm going to open a restaurant catered to these people. I'm going to sell them a hamburger and fried for $6 but then before their food comes out, I'm going to give them 4 fries and 1/10 of an ounce of hamburger for $4. They'll love it!!!!

rainless

06-09-08, 08:53 PM

How many wow demos have sold? I know i bought one but not for the same reason as others might.

Fudge is right about this one though. The WoW demo is 2 bucks, this demo is full price. That's the difference, and quite significant. Many of those 600k might have thought it was a full game, only to be extremely disappointed. And the ones that bought the wow disc might have been disappointed too... but not full price disappointed, 2 bucks disappointed.

You're talking two million sold at 2 bucks and 600k sold at FORTY bucks. Somehow I don't think that's a failure for a demo. I've never even heard of a demo (since "we've" agreed on calling it that) selling for 40 bucks. Now forty times six hundred thousand is 24,000,000... (24 million dollars).

By no means... no way you choose to measure it... by no MATH is making 24 million dollars off of a demo a failure.

Cheator

06-09-08, 09:21 PM

You're talking two million sold at 2 bucks and 600k sold at FORTY bucks. Somehow I don't think that's a failure for a demo. I've never even heard of a demo (since "we've" agreed on calling it that) selling for 40 bucks. Now forty times six hundred thousand is 24,000,000... (24 million dollars).

By no means... no way you choose to measure it... by no MATH is making 24 million dollars off of a demo a failure.

Snake oil costs money too, plenty of people have made money off it. Lots of people out there (IE a good chunk of that 600k) were fooled. But at least with a wow disc, its worth it.

rainless

06-09-08, 10:24 PM

Snake oil costs money too, plenty of people have made money off it. Lots of people out there (IE a good chunk of that 600k) were fooled. But at least with a wow disc, its worth it.

To who? I don't think anybody was "fooled" into buying GT5 Prologue (Maybe the "Prologue" part should've been a strong hint.) The 7-30 day trial included on the $2 W.O.W. disc could've been downloaded for free at the fastest speeds known to humanity. GT5 Prologue cannot.

W.O.W. was therefore less worthy of its price.

FudgeNuggets

06-10-08, 07:52 AM

You're talking two million sold at 2 bucks and 600k sold at FORTY bucks. Somehow I don't think that's a failure for a demo. I've never even heard of a demo (since "we've" agreed on calling it that) selling for 40 bucks. Now forty times six hundred thousand is 24,000,000... (24 million dollars).

By no means... no way you choose to measure it... by no MATH is making 24 million dollars off of a demo a failure.

It's a failure in humanity and intelligence. :bang head:screwy:

Cheator

06-10-08, 09:55 AM

To who? I don't think anybody was "fooled" into buying GT5 Prologue (Maybe the "Prologue" part should've been a strong hint.) The 7-30 day trial included on the $2 W.O.W. disc could've been downloaded for free at the fastest speeds known to humanity. GT5 Prologue cannot.

W.O.W. was therefore less worthy of its price.
Wow is more worthy of the price. You get the full game, not a demo. There isn't a limited race you can select, no class you can't use, they used to limit the lvl but not anymore. With the prologue you pay FULL PRICE FOR A GAME THAT IS INCOMPLETE!

It's a failure in humanity and intelligence. :bang head:screwy:

Yussir. A major fail rate. "Oh look, a racing game and its full price. Must be a full game" and BAM, they're fooled. 600k or not, those guys were swindled.

FudgeNuggets

06-10-08, 11:26 AM

Wow is more worthy of the price. You get the full game, not a demo. There isn't a limited race you can select, no class you can't use, they used to limit the lvl but not anymore. With the prologue you pay FULL PRICE FOR A GAME THAT IS INCOMPLETE!

Yussir. A major fail rate. "Oh look, a racing game and its full price. Must be a full game" and BAM, they're fooled. 600k or not, those guys were swindled.

It's actually less than full price, $20 as it is $40 as opposed to $60 but still......... that's 2/3 the price for a demo... I mean I rented it and blew through the majority of it in just a couple of hours.

iaacp

06-10-08, 01:50 PM

Wow is more worthy of the price. You get the full game, not a demo. There isn't a limited race you can select, no class you can't use, they used to limit the lvl but not anymore. With the prologue you pay FULL PRICE FOR A GAME THAT IS INCOMPLETE!

You realize there are some pretty big restrictions on trial accounts, like the ability to whisper other people?

Both games are incomplete

Yussir. A major fail rate. "Oh look, a racing game and its full price. Must be a full game" and BAM, they're fooled. 600k or not, those guys were swindled.

I'm sorry, I haven't heard of a single person that thought this was the full game. I don't think a single person was swindled. And its not full priced, its $20 less than full price. For goodness sake, the game has "PROLOGUE" in the title.

rainless

06-10-08, 01:53 PM

Wow is more worthy of the price. You get the full game, not a demo. There isn't a limited race you can select, no class you can't use, they used to limit the lvl but not anymore. With the prologue you pay FULL PRICE FOR A GAME THAT IS INCOMPLETE!

Yussir. A major fail rate. "Oh look, a racing game and its full price. Must be a full game" and BAM, they're fooled. 600k or not, those guys were swindled.

We've already covered this: EVERYONE ON EARTH knows it isn't the full game. It says so on the damned box. And you're completely missing the point: I wasn't arguing over whether or not it was smart to buy it: My point was it sold. It sold to the tune of 24 million dollars.

There is no other 24 million dollar demo. Case closed.

Cheator

06-10-08, 01:59 PM

It's actually less than full price, $20 as it is $40 as opposed to $60 but still......... that's 2/3 the price for a demo... I mean I rented it and blew through the majority of it in just a couple of hours.
Renting might be worth it, but not buying.
You realize there are some pretty big restrictions on trial accounts, like the ability to whisper other people?

I was whispering my friend just fine on it. I started WoW out with a friend of mine and thats how we talked (he didn't have MSN).

I'm sorry, I haven't heard of a single person that thought this was the full game. I don't think a single person was swindled. And its not full priced, its $20 less than full price. For goodness sake, the game has "PROLOGUE" in the title.
It doesn't matter that it is 20 bucks less. All the more reason to worry since it swindles parents who don't know any better, and kids who save up only to be disapointed :).
We've already covered this: EVERYONE ON EARTH knows it isn't the full game. It says so on the damned box. And you're completely missing the point: I wasn't arguing over whether or not it was smart to buy it: My point was it sold. It sold to the tune of 24 million dollars.

There is no other 24 million dollar demo. Case closed.
My mom is not aware that it is not the full game. Nor is my brother, my sister, my dad, all of my co-workers, and surely many other people.

As for it selling alot, I am making a totally different point: Most of those 600k people got swindled.

rainless

06-10-08, 03:35 PM

My mom is not aware that it is not the full game. Nor is my brother, my sister, my dad, all of my co-workers, and surely many other people.

As for it selling alot, I am making a totally different point: Most of those 600k people got swindled.

Did your mom, brother, sister, dad, and the entirety of the Cheator Office Cluster purchase GT5 Prologue? If not then your point (not YOU... I like YOU :beer: ) is ridiculous and unfounded.

You find me at least 301,000 people that BOUGHT THE GAME and had no idea it was a demo... Oh hell. I'm not even going to entertain that thought.

Cheator

06-10-08, 04:11 PM

If not then your point (not YOU... I like YOU :beer: ) is ridiculous and unfounded.

:beer:

They didn't go out and buy it, but I think my point is 100% valid. You remember the demo discs when we were younger (You are probably older than me). You'd pay up to 5 bucks for 10 demos, and they were complete demos too! Comander keen, Doom, Wolfenstein, etc were complete episodes. Thats a demo. But this one is 40 bucks for not even as much stuff.

The price tag along probably fooled many people, I would not be shocked by this. In the old days, if you were fooled, it was 5 bucks gone (or 2 for WoW). For this one, its a whole 40 bucks! Thats practically full price man.

You find me at least 301,000 people that BOUGHT THE GAME and had no idea it was a demo... Oh hell. I'm not even going to entertain that thought.
You should, I am fairly certain thats the case.

rainless

06-10-08, 09:17 PM

:beer:

They didn't go out and buy it, but I think my point is 100% valid. You remember the demo discs when we were younger (You are probably older than me). You'd pay up to 5 bucks for 10 demos, and they were complete demos too! Comander keen, Doom, Wolfenstein, etc were complete episodes. Thats a demo. But this one is 40 bucks for not even as much stuff.

The price tag along probably fooled many people, I would not be shocked by this. In the old days, if you were fooled, it was 5 bucks gone (or 2 for WoW). For this one, its a whole 40 bucks! Thats practically full price man.

You should, I am fairly certain thats the case.

Well at least you proved we're both almost over the hill. :)

Not many of those demos featured online multiplayer. If they did (maybe you could pull off online multi in the doom and doom 2 demos... perhaps in Descent or Warcraft 2) then they didn't allow you to choose 15 different levels and 60 different characters. Demos, in general, were far superior back in the day to demos of today. You got to play three levels of Doom... two levels of Doom 2 and I think just one (albeit LONG) level of Quake.

Nowadays even a demo like Burnout Paradise is considered a revelation, whereas, back in the day... it would've just been considered shareware. (Proportionally speaking.)

No one in their right minds would believe that GT5 just happened to be on sale for a bargain price of $39.99. Twenty dollars off for no reason at all? Forget it. I heard a lot of people ask about it at gamespot... and everyone who asked was told it was more or less a demo. Everyone who DIDN'T ask was told it was a demo.

And everyone who wasn't told and really didn't know... should have known better.

...all three of them. ;)

Cheator

06-10-08, 10:02 PM

Well at least you proved we're both almost over the hill. :)
Over the hill? I'm 23 I hope not :soda: Forever young.

Not many of those demos featured online multiplayer. If they did (maybe you could pull off online multi in the doom and doom 2 demos... perhaps in Descent or Warcraft 2) then they didn't allow you to choose 15 different levels and 60 different characters. Demos, in general, were far superior back in the day to demos of today. You got to play three levels of Doom... two levels of Doom 2 and I think just one (albeit LONG) level of Quake.

Nowadays even a demo like Burnout Paradise is considered a revelation, whereas, back in the day... it would've just been considered shareware. (Proportionally speaking.)

No one in their right minds would believe that GT5 just happened to be on sale for a bargain price of $39.99. Twenty dollars off for no reason at all? Forget it. I heard a lot of people ask about it at gamespot... and everyone who asked was told it was more or less a demo. Everyone who DIDN'T ask was told it was a demo.

And everyone who wasn't told and really didn't know... should have known better.

...all three of them. ;)

No, i think you got too much faith in people. I mean sure I know some people knew it was a Demo, but... I reckon many of those people had no idea. Infact there was a downloadable Demo of prologue was there not? That alone could make a bunch of people think its a game.

rainless

06-10-08, 11:49 PM

Over the hill? I'm 23 I hope not :soda: Forever young.

No, i think you got too much faith in people. I mean sure I know some people knew it was a Demo, but... I reckon many of those people had no idea. Infact there was a downloadable Demo of prologue was there not? That alone could make a bunch of people think its a game.

Of course it's a game. It's more of a game than... say... Burnout Dominator ever was. And Burnout Dominator cost $49.99.

There's no time limit... the online multiplayer is fully operational... like I said, there hasn't been a demo like it since at least the mid nineties. And I'd dare go so far as to say there's NEVER been a demo like it.

(Though I'm sure the WOW demo was fine.)

Cheator

06-11-08, 08:16 AM

Of course it's a game. It's more of a game than... say... Burnout Dominator ever was. And Burnout Dominator cost $49.99.

There's no time limit... the online multiplayer is fully operational... like I said, there hasn't been a demo like it since at least the mid nineties. And I'd dare go so far as to say there's NEVER been a demo like it.

(Though I'm sure the WOW demo was fine.)

Well for me the woW demo wasn't limited.I got 1 month free and played to my hearts content. But that was for 2 bucks. I dunno, lots of people got fooled I know it. I think you put too much faith in moms, kids, and even casual gamers. The hard core gamers make up very little of that 600k IMO.

If this is the kind of thing that brings in sales though, I'll gladly sell this half eaten sandwich for pretty much the price I paid for it.

ratbuddy

06-11-08, 12:40 PM

1. I don't know what qore means.

2. I've never heard a single person complain about spending $40 on the GT5 demo. I wouldn't buy it, but that's just me.

3. You can download a wow demo for free, spending $2 for a disc of something you can download free is a worse value than GT5 demo.

Cheator

06-11-08, 12:51 PM

3. You can download a wow demo for free, spending $2 for a disc of something you can download free is a worse value than GT5 demo.
The Demo disc contains a longer demo than you get online. It's also only 2 bucks. Plus, its the complete game, not a demo.

ratbuddy

06-11-08, 01:02 PM

The Demo disc contains a longer demo than you get online. It's also only 2 bucks. Plus, its the complete game, not a demo.

So you don't have to pay $15 a month to play the real game?

Cheator

06-11-08, 01:13 PM

So you don't have to pay $15 a month to play the real game?

I don't remember saying that.

rainless

06-11-08, 11:47 PM

The Demo disc contains a longer demo than you get online. It's also only 2 bucks. Plus, its the complete game, not a demo.

How is it a complete game? You can play GT5 Prologue for as long as the PS3's network continues to exist. I don't think there's any way of continuing with your character and stats from the W.O.W. demo without paying the full price for the monthly fees (and possibly also paying for the game).

It may be possible... if you have enough email addresses... to keep buying the demo over and over again and start with a new character every time.

...how is that "complete"?

ratbuddy

06-12-08, 07:01 AM

The Demo disc contains a longer demo than you get online. It's also only 2 bucks. Plus, its the complete game, not a demo.

I don't remember saying that.

You said complete game. If it's time-limited or you have to pay to keep using it, that ain't the complete game, that's a demo.

Cheator

06-12-08, 10:23 AM

How is it a complete game? You can play GT5 Prologue for as long as the PS3's network continues to exist. I don't think there's any way of continuing with your character and stats from the W.O.W. demo without paying the full price for the monthly fees (and possibly also paying for the game).

It may be possible... if you have enough email addresses... to keep buying the demo over and over again and start with a new character every time.

...how is that "complete"?
I just told you why its not complete :). All of the charaters, classes, skills, races, items, etc... no bull****. Not 30% of everything, no gimmicks, just plain old full game for 7 days. THATs how a demo should be. Not some $40 dollar "omg its is like...TOTALLLY almost the game."

You said complete game. If it's time-limited or you have to pay to keep using it, that ain't the complete game, that's a demo.
No, its the complete game. 100% of everything is in there. Plus 2 bucks, you can't go wrong man. Whereas, $40 bucks for an incomplete game is a total rip. Thats almost full price.

You guys might not agree with me, but I think deep down inside you would. You both have the same experiences with demos I do. the 5 dollar discs with like 5 games on them, or the CDs that were cheaper, and had much more! These were incomplete games as well, but at least with some of these games, you got a decent amount of playtime out of them. With GT5P, you get lots of play time (no doubt there), but you're playing half the game for most of the price. Thats the difference.

rainless

06-12-08, 10:37 AM

I just told you why its not complete :). All of the charaters, classes, skills, races, items, etc... no bull****. Not 30% of everything, no gimmicks, just plain old full game for 7 days. THATs how a demo should be. Not some $40 dollar "omg its is like...TOTALLLY almost the game."

No, its the complete game. 100% of everything is in there. Plus 2 bucks, you can't go wrong man. Whereas, $40 bucks for an incomplete game is a total rip. Thats almost full price.

You guys might not agree with me, but I think deep down inside you would. You both have the same experiences with demos I do. the 5 dollar discs with like 5 games on them, or the CDs that were cheaper, and had much more! These were incomplete games as well, but at least with some of these games, you got a decent amount of playtime out of them. With GT5P, you get lots of play time (no doubt there), but you're playing half the game for most of the price. Thats the difference.

A full game for 7 days is NOT a full game. You're talking about a game you can play for 7 days that costs 2 bucks versus a game that you can play forever that costs 40 bucks... or did you miss that part?

Cheator

06-12-08, 10:46 AM

A full game for 7 days is NOT a full game. You're talking about a game you can play for 7 days that costs 2 bucks versus a game that you can play forever that costs 40 bucks... or did you miss that part?

Well if you want to get technical you can play it perpetually forever. However, its the complete game and thats the point I'm making. A COMPLETE GAME for 2 bucks. Besides, it isn't even that good of an example. Most demos are free, not $40 bucks. And you can play many of those demos forever too... :).