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Freshmir
06-12-08, 09:44 AM
I just put a new rig together. Running a E8400 wolfdale cpu with a 8800gts 512 and 4gigs of G.skill PC8000 on vista 64. Anyways I ran the new version of memtest and on standard test it reports no errors. I ran the extended one while I slept and got errors when I woke up. Im wondering is it giving me false errors. I know I should isolate the bad ram but either way I will need to RMA both sticks if they are bad so its pointless. If the dimm is bad I could try duel channeling on the other 2 dimms. I doubt the mb is the problem though. Anyways should I just rma this or try somthing else? Id rather not go through the rma hassel and having to wait again another 5 days for my comp to be up because weekend is coming up but if I have to I will. Here is the result vista gave me on bootup.
Problem signature
Problem Event Name: MemDiagV1
Range of memory size: 4096
Launch type: BootManager
Schedule type: Immediate
Completion type: Fail
Test type: Custom
Failed tests: 64
Range of number of bad pages: 5
Test duration in seconds: 4230
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
thideras
06-12-08, 09:48 AM
Do you have voltages/timings set manually (and correctly) within the BIOS? Try that first, the specs for the RAM will be on a sticker on the RAM module.
Also, full system specs would be awesome ;)
Freshmir
06-12-08, 09:55 AM
The timings are right. I didnt check the voltage though. Its on stock atm. I will check that. Here is full specs.
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: EP35-DS3L
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 1442MB used, 6976MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 8800 GTS 512
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Display Memory: 2284 MB
Dedicated Memory: 493 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2umx.dll, nvwgf2um
Driver Version: 7.15.0011.7516 (English)
redduc900
06-12-08, 11:46 AM
You mentioned the timings are right... I assume you have them set to 5-5-5-15-2T (w/ all sub-timings on AUTO), and Vdimm at 2.1V?
Freshmir
06-12-08, 01:55 PM
You mentioned the timings are right... I assume you have them set to 5-5-5-15-2T (w/ all sub-timings on AUTO), and Vdimm at 2.1V?
Yep thats what the settings are at.
jason4207
06-12-08, 04:12 PM
You said the voltage was stock (1.8v). Then you agreed w/ redduc saying it was 2.1v.
Which one is it?
Freshmir
06-12-08, 11:05 PM
Its at stock. I just ran memtest again extended version and it showed no errors but when I got to 91% of the second test being done it just booted my OS up and didnt give me any results in os. I dont know what to make of it.
thideras
06-12-08, 11:07 PM
but when I got to 91% of the second test being done it just booted my OS up and didnt give me any results in os. I dont know what to make of it.It isn't supposed to end like that, sounds like it restarted the computer. Something is wrong here. Does it do that with other sticks?
Freshmir
06-13-08, 12:26 AM
It isn't supposed to end like that, sounds like it restarted the computer. Something is wrong here. Does it do that with other sticks?
Dont have any other ram to try it with so Im not sure. Im gonna run memtest again to tonight when I sleep and see what happens. Worst thing comes to worst ill rma them on monday for replacments.
thideras
06-13-08, 12:26 AM
Can you try just one stick to see if it happens?
Stilletto
06-13-08, 12:28 AM
I always use memtest386 (free) and boot from the cd. It eliminates and OS trouble and gives errors within about 6 min if you are likely going to get them.
jason4207
06-13-08, 08:43 AM
Its at stock. I just ran memtest again extended version and it showed no errors but when I got to 91% of the second test being done it just booted my OS up and didnt give me any results in os. I dont know what to make of it.
OK, well since the RAM is rated at 2.1v, don't you think you should try that voltage before you RMA the sticks?
Freshmir
06-13-08, 08:52 AM
OK, well since the RAM is rated at 2.1v, don't you think you should try that voltage before you RMA the sticks?
I cant find the voltage setting in this bios. I only tried 1 times though. Also would that really solve it?
Freshmir
06-13-08, 08:59 AM
I always use memtest386 (free) and boot from the cd. It eliminates and OS trouble and gives errors within about 6 min if you are likely going to get them.
Where can I dl that one? only able to find memtest86 here.
thideras
06-13-08, 09:01 AM
I cant find the voltage setting in this bios. I only tried 1 times though. Also would that really solve it?Having the voltage too low will cause instability.
Freshmir
06-13-08, 09:33 AM
Having the voltage too low will cause instability.
The thing is though I have yet to have any kinds of problems running anything its all stable and seems to run great.
jason4207
06-13-08, 11:41 AM
I cant find the voltage setting in this bios. I only tried 1 times though. Also would that really solve it?
Look again. Press cntrl-F1 while in the BIOS to open up additional options.
It should be listed as DDR2 or VDIMM voltage.
jason4207
06-13-08, 11:42 AM
Where can I dl that one? only able to find memtest86 here.
This is what I use. Memtest86+ (http://www.memtest.org/)
jason4207
06-13-08, 11:44 AM
The thing is though I have yet to have any kinds of problems running anything its all stable and seems to run great.
That's the thing w/ OCing. I can run my system way above what's memtest or P95 stable w/o issues...for a while. Eventually it'll catch up w/ you, and you won't know what's wrong.
Freshmir
06-13-08, 11:58 AM
That's the thing w/ OCing. I can run my system way above what's memtest or P95 stable w/o issues...for a while. Eventually it'll catch up w/ you, and you won't know what's wrong.
Looked all over bios. The ctrl f1 only brought up general help tab. Only thing with voltage i was able to find was somthing called DDR18V or somthing and it was set to 1.95 and the only way to raise it was through this other window that let me i guess raise it only by .5v max or somthing like that but that was blinking red. Also I oced my cpu to 424x8.5 making it run at like 3.60ghz. I think im suppose to up the voltage on that as well though. But its a very confusing voltage window in this bios.
Category 5
06-13-08, 12:42 PM
Only use Memtest86+ from a bootable CD. You MUST set the voltage correctly in the bios. Sometimes you have to switch the CPU settings to manual for the RAM settings to come available. RAM voltage should be adjustable in the same menu as CPU voltage. Sometimes you need to scroll down to find options you didn't know were there. AUTO is feeding your RAM 1.8v (which is okay for some sticks if you get a good batch). The rated V is 2.1 so you need to at least start there before you declare anything stable.
If you are getting memtest errors you have problems. You can not have those and be stable, regardless of how long you browse or play a game. It will eventually screw you, and hopefully not during a RAM swap or you could fudge the whole OS.
What board are you using? I don't know of any boards that don't allow the ram voltage to be set. Did you get a manual? Maybe it's worth a read through.
Also, sticks that run at rated timings at low volts alone will not necessarily do that together. Running 4 sticks together, and in dual channel mode stresses the components harder and you will probably need more volts to do it stable. Find that V setting. It's not a small detail.
Freshmir
06-13-08, 12:58 PM
Only use Memtest86+ from a bootable CD. You MUST set the voltage correctly in the bios. Sometimes you have to switch the CPU settings to manual for the RAM settings to come available. RAM voltage should be adjustable in the same menu as CPU voltage. Sometimes you need to scroll down to find options you didn't know were there. AUTO is feeding your RAM 1.8v (which is okay for some sticks if you get a good batch). The rated V is 2.1 so you need to at least start there before you declare anything stable.
If you are getting memtest errors you have problems. You can not have those and be stable, regardless of how long you browse or play a game. It will eventually screw you, and hopefully not during a RAM swap or you could fudge the whole OS.
What board are you using? I don't know of any boards that don't allow the ram voltage to be set. Did you get a manual? Maybe it's worth a read through.
Also, sticks that run at rated timings at low volts alone will not necessarily do that together. Running 4 sticks together, and in dual channel mode stresses the components harder and you will probably need more volts to do it stable. Find that V setting. It's not a small detail.
My mother board is a Gigabyte EP35-DS3L and Iam running 4gigs 2x2g duel channel. I will be getting replacment ram monday from newegg. Those should fix the problem.
Freshmir
06-13-08, 03:16 PM
now its being a pain in the ass. It wont let me run memtest boot. I set the first boot as cd rom the thing comes up to boot from disk i hit my keyboard like mad and it just ends up starting my os again
thideras
06-13-08, 03:19 PM
Sounds like you didn't burn the ISO right. What program did you use and did you set is as bootable when burning?
Freshmir
06-13-08, 10:10 PM
Sounds like you didn't burn the ISO right. What program did you use and did you set is as bootable when burning?
I know I burned it right because I was using it to run the other tests same cd. Have no idea wtf is going on with it now. All i did was rest the bios optimized settings and i set cdrom to first boot again. Dunno what else could of changed to mess it up.
Captain Newbie
06-13-08, 11:58 PM
Four-by-one GB sticks?
(This is to satisfy my curiosity and is spurred because you have a Gigabyte EP35 board.)
Freshmir
06-14-08, 12:12 AM
Four-by-one GB sticks?
(This is to satisfy my curiosity and is spurred because you have a Gigabyte EP35 board.)
No. 2 sticks of 2gigs each running dual channel.
jason4207
06-14-08, 01:06 PM
I will be getting replacment ram monday from newegg. Those should fix the problem.
It won't fix anything if you can't set your RAM to run at higher than 1.8v. Have you made any progress in finding the setting?
Freshmir
06-14-08, 01:22 PM
It won't fix anything if you can't set your RAM to run at higher than 1.8v. Have you made any progress in finding the setting?
I rest the bios to optimized defults and it turned the ram up to 2.1v by itself. But I havent been able to run memtest86 since i reset bios. Even after making sure that my cd rom boots first. It comes up and i hit my keyboard but its like its not even registering but I know my keyboard is fine since I can use it to get into bios every time. Also this ram is suppose to be set to 1000 not 800 and in bios its defult is 800 and no way to change it unless I crank up the cpu speed to like 424 then it raises the ram freq to 1001
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