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MARCI · Jun 19, 2008

Well, I'm going to attempt to buiid a dedicated gaming machine. The games I play use older game engines which do not utilize MultiCore.. And they don't use the Vid card very well either apparently.

I purchased the Chip i'm gonna be running this on, an Intel P4 651 with a clock of 3.4Ghz. Now i need a Mobo recommendation.
I'm trying to build the whole rig on a pretty tight budget.
I know i want 1 PCIx16, but sli or cfx isn't important at all. I want at least 4GB of ram support. And I'd like to be able to OC this chip to get the most performance i can from EQ2.

any suggestions?

Evilsizer · Jun 19, 2008

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128084
pretty good board for the price... if you really want the most for your older games on a single core, then why not a new cpu?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116039

even at 3.2ghz the Celeron-L 430 would run loops around the P4 you have. even if the P4 is overclocked.

MARCI · Jun 19, 2008

Evilsizer said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128084
pretty good board for the price... if you really want the most for your older games on a single core, then why not a new cpu?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116039

even at 3.2ghz the Celeron-L 430 would run loops around the P4 you have. even if the P4 is overclocked.

Okay.. Why would the Slower Celeron, Outperform the P4? The P4 is a Northbridge, not a prescott. It's one of the Fastest single core chips Intel made, as far as I can tell

Evilsizer · Jun 19, 2008

MARCI said:
Okay.. Why would the Slower Celeron, Outperform the P4? The P4 is a Northbridge, not a prescott. It's one of the Fastest single core chips Intel Made

intel's "core 2" arch is much more efficient per clock then "netburst", that is the name for all P4/PD arch.. doesnt matter if its a northwood or presshot, its slow clock to clock compared to a "core 2" cpu. for instance a PD would need a clock speed of 4.2ghz to match the intel Core 2 E6600 at stock(2.4ghz). the celeron only looks slow on by clock speed but trust me its not. i use to run my Celeron-L 420 oced to 3.2ghz, did a good job in some newer games, dual core was better though. the new Celeron-L line is Intel's fastest single core cpu now.

MARCI · Jun 19, 2008

Evilsizer said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128084
pretty good board for the price... if you really want the most for your older games on a single core, then why not a new cpu?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116039

even at 3.2ghz the Celeron-L 430 would run loops around the P4 you have. even if the P4 is overclocked.

Evilsizer said:
intel's "core 2" arch is much more efficient per clock then "netburst", that is the name for all P4/PD arch.. doesnt matter if its a northwood or presshot, its slow clock to clock compared to a "core 2" cpu. for instance a PD would need a clock speed of 4.2ghz to match the intel Core 2 E6600 at stock(2.4ghz). the celeron only looks slow on by clock speed but trust me its not. i use to run my Celeron-L 420 oced to 3.2ghz, did a good job in some newer games, dual core was better though. the new Celeron-L line is Intel's fastest single core cpu now.

Well, I guess I shoulda asked before I bought the chip ? Rookie Mistake.

Evilsizer · Jun 19, 2008

put it up on ebay or something, up to you... what games will you be playing beside EQ2?

MARCI · Jun 20, 2008

Pretty much EQ2 only.. maybe some casual stuff, but those don't use any processor at all. Mainly EQ2 would be the only thing that would use the CPU to any extent.

Evilsizer · Jun 20, 2008

then you can stick with the P4 for now, till you think you need more cpu power... the P4 will run hotter then the new "core 2" stuff, if that matters to you.

MARCI · Jun 21, 2008

Evilsizer said:
then you can stick with the P4 for now, till you think you need more cpu power... the P4 will run hotter then the new "core 2" stuff, if that matters to you.

Thats what fans are for

Evilsizer · Jun 21, 2008

that maybe true, but if your in a small room like me. the P4 will dump more heat into the room then the "core 2".

MARCI · Jun 21, 2008

Evilsizer said:
that maybe true, but if your in a small room like me. the P4 will dump more heat into the room then the "core 2".

Luckily for me my box sits next to the a/c vent. So even if the room heats up, it's sucking cool, fresh air.

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