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vivepulicaci23
06-26-08, 08:11 AM
Whatever comes out of the nvidia factory, it doesnt matter to the Classic 8800GT..
When paired up in SLI jus for 300$ nothing comes close to it, even the GTX280 which is twice the price of an 8800Gt SLI setup.
Even the 300$ hd 4870 cannot match with it..
Heres the proof

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=13

{remember the 9800GX2 is already in SLI}

SO, whoever own the 8800gt in SLI,be proud, n post it here.
:beer:

gigabit
06-26-08, 09:58 PM
How about 8800GTS (G92)

Shiggity
06-26-08, 09:59 PM
Nice, now you have to overclock those bad boys!

theELVISCERATOR
06-26-08, 10:00 PM
See my sig at my daily settings....40 fps same bench same settings.

||Console||
06-26-08, 10:00 PM
Now that they are so cheep im thinking about getting a second for some sli action

Godfather1138
06-26-08, 10:10 PM
Representing here, though I have a bit more invested in mine.

19,510 marks in 06 I can be proud of that, and think I can get a little more if I can get my OC's stable.

gigabit
06-26-08, 10:15 PM
Representing here, though I have a bit more invested in mine.

19,510 marks in 06 I can be proud of that, and think I can get a little more if I can get my OC's stable.
Thats better than my 8800GTS 512MB KO's

vivepulicaci23
06-26-08, 10:17 PM
How about 8800GTS (G92)

8800GTS is not worth the money buddy, you have to pay more, but just get a few FPS extra than 8800GT

gigabit
06-26-08, 10:18 PM
Yeah if you say so,When i bought my frist 8800GTS it was only $39 more than the GT and when i bought the second one it was only about $25 more .Plus i was joking around you made a thread about GT's not GTS's

jstutman
06-26-08, 10:20 PM
8800GT X's $130 = $260
better FPS than X2 from ATI or the GTX

silencer51
06-27-08, 01:10 AM
I have 2 GTs, one for each of my rigs... I'm thinking of getting something faster for my C2D rig and then installing the leftover 8800GT to my DFI s939 rig for some SLI action :)

silentdebuggers
06-27-08, 08:54 AM
I can't get any performance increase with 8800GT sli on an AMD 6400+. I have SLI, but I'm bummed that it'll essentially take a C2D to release it.

Neural Net
06-27-08, 09:25 AM
Whatever comes out of the nvidia factory, it doesnt matter to the Classic 8800GT..
When paired up in SLI jus for 300$ nothing comes close to it, even the GTX280 which is twice the price of an 8800Gt SLI setup.
Even the 300$ hd 4870 cannot match with it..
Heres the proof

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=13

{remember the 9800GX2 is already in SLI}

SO, whoever own the 8800gt in SLI,be proud, n post it here.
:beer:

How about it's actually not that good - scaling in Crysis and UT3 is abysmal, and I got rid of my other 8800GT because the only game where I saw a significant performance increase was Supreme Commander. Then again I was using a crappy 780i board. Honestly the Dual 4850 setup I'm currently playing with has been far easier to deal with and much faster. A 4850 costs the same as a 512MB 8800GT here, too. ;)

BlackEdition
06-27-08, 11:32 AM
I am thinking about going with another 8800gt for an sli setup, but i am concerned about what you are saying silentdebuggers...

i have a black edition 5000+ at 3.2ghz. why do you say you need a C2D to properly scale the SLI Gt's?

BlackEdition
06-27-08, 11:36 AM
i also wanted to raise a question.

is there any real advantage to having identical cards as an sli setup versus two different cards with the same GPU (e.g. two EVGA 8800gt's versus one EVGA and one XFX?

necrokiller
06-27-08, 01:27 PM
How about it's actually not that good - scaling in Crysis and UT3 is abysmal, and I got rid of my other 8800GT because the only game where I saw a significant performance increase was Supreme Commander. Then again I was using a crappy 780i board. Honestly the Dual 4850 setup I'm currently playing with has been far easier to deal with and much faster. A 4850 costs the same as a 512MB 8800GT here, too

I own the 8800GT SLI and Im proud of it. Sure the scaling isn't 100% in all the games but in some games its over ~90%, and its not like a card of the equal price would give you a 100% boost from a single 8800GT either. All people having doubts about SLI should check this review out:

http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=528&Itemid=29

Neural Net
06-27-08, 05:48 PM
I own the 8800GT SLI and Im proud of it. Sure the scaling isn't 100% in all the games but in some games its over ~90%, and its not like a card of the equal price would give you a 100% boost from a single 8800GT either. All people having doubts about SLI should check this review out:

http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=528&Itemid=29

I don't need to check reviews I'm talking from experience, and the only game that comes close to a 90% performance boost is Supreme Commander. On average it's about 50% - at best.

necrokiller
06-27-08, 09:05 PM
I don't need to check reviews I'm talking from experience, and the only game that comes close to a 90% performance boost is Supreme Commander. On average it's about 50% - at best.

You're telling me you never read any reviews? Or based your judgement upon a review? Or read them for an informed purchase? Maybe the games you play don't benefit from SLI, but SLI is better than CF even in games that suffer from multi-GPU support. The performance is actually WORSE than a single card in Crossfire. The biggest example for this is Gears of War on ATI HD3xxx Crossfire.

Im not a Nvidia fan boy. Infact my last card was ATI x1950 pro and I loved it. But as of now, im stuck with nvidia if i want multi-gpu support, and theres no denying that 8800GT is a winner is every sense of the word when it comes to that.

vivepulicaci23
06-27-08, 09:53 PM
yeah.. ATI cross fire sucks...

Shell
06-27-08, 10:25 PM
yeah.. ATI cross fire sucks...haha, oh wow.
CrossFire and ATi's multi GPU solutions is usually a big draw for people because of it's stability and scaling nowadays, it has advanced much faster then SLI, which is now behind.
One big issue is the fact that SLI only works on nVidia's generally flaky chipsets.
This isn't 2005.

necrokiller,
either get a second 8800GT or sell/trade your mainboard(and video card*) and replace them with a nice X38 and whatever graphics card... maybe two 4870's, *maybe keep your 8800 is you're getting enough performance for the time being.

JonSimonzi
06-27-08, 11:08 PM
I plan on getting a 2nd 8800 GTS and motherboard soon, probably the EVGA 750i SLI board. Now that the prices of cards have come down so much I see no reason not too.

Shell
06-27-08, 11:14 PM
I plan on getting a 2nd 8800 GTS and motherboard soon, probably the EVGA 750i SLI board. Now that the prices of cards have come down so much I see no reason not too.
If you really want to go SLI... don't bother if you have to buy a whole new mainboard(cheaper to just replace your video card, then getting a second + mobo), and if you REALLY want to... use a mainboard with 2 full 16x, otherwise you're going to ****** your setup.

The 9800GX2 or 4870 are good options.

necrokiller
06-27-08, 11:24 PM
haha, oh wow.
CrossFire and ATi's multi GPU solutions is usually a big draw for people because of it's stability and scaling nowadays, it has advanced much faster then SLI, which is now behind.
One big issue is the fact that SLI only works on nVidia's generally flaky chipsets.
This isn't 2005.

Thats what I've heard, that nvidia chipsets generally suck! Dont really know the exact reasons...but for my current setup, it works perfectly. I have no complains so far. What instability? I have yet to witness any sort of problems related to SLI specifically. yes Crossfire has progressed alot. To me it seems that with the low price offerings, its much better to run Crossfire than a single ATI card.

One major drawback is, that when it works, it beats the SLI by quite a margin, but when it doesn't, it performs worse than a single card. Thats what i've read all over the reviews (which are nothing more than other people's experience too)


necrokiller,
either get a second 8800GT or sell/trade your mainboard(and video card*) and replace them with a nice X38 and whatever graphics card... maybe two 4870's, *maybe keep your 8800 is you're getting enough performance for the time being.

I already have SLI. And changing the mainboard is too much of a headache at the moment. Its only a few months old. For the time being, and from the looks of it, I think it'll do well for a long time. The only thing that urges people to upgrade is better hardware/better deals. I can play ANY game on my 46" inch 1080p with all the eye candy on. But IF I plan to go with ATI, I would have to buy a high-end card since my motherboard can't do Crossfire.

vivepulicaci23
06-28-08, 03:34 AM
I do hear a lot of issues about the nvidia chipset, but personally i have no trouble with it!!

Farinorco
06-28-08, 04:24 AM
About price : performance ratio of multi-GPU solutions:

Yeah, it's much better. On the other hand, it has a lot of flaws against a single GPU setup.

-Usually increases average and maximum framerate, but lowest peaks are generally equal or even lower than the single card solution. Framerate is generally much more irregular and unstable.
-Micro-stuttering (or as I prefer to call it, "fake" increased framerates at many games).
-Far from good scaling at some games
-Need a mobo that support it (which in the case of NVIDIA is even a worse problem. nForce chip? Eeeek. No thanks)
-Generally higher power consumption than an equivalent performance (if any) single card solution.
-and so on...

I'd say that if you consider a single GPU solution and a dual GPU solution both with equal performance, the single GPU solution is a much more quality one, so its logical (from a consumer POV) to pay more for it. Then is the question of what is what you want. If raw numbers is your thing, no doubt, dual GPU is the way. I'd buy anyday a single card solution while it had enough power to run everything I need during a certain time.

About SLI vs CF:

I would say neither of both has the clear edge now. Back to the ancient days (OK maybe I'm exaggerating a little) Crossfire was a solution faster than SLI but with several drivers/compatibility/and so problems. With the time, ATi solved those problems and CF became a far superior multi-GPU technology than SLI, until the days of G92, which have allowed NVIDIA to catch up ATi cards in performance. Now things are fairly equalized.

The worst about SLI are those stupid NVIDIA drivers that check your mobo chipset and don't allow to enable SLI if it's not an nForce one. Their dirty trick to sell their crappy and expensive mobos...

necrokiller
06-28-08, 05:52 AM
About price : performance ratio of multi-GPU solutions:

Yeah, it's much better. On the other hand, it has a lot of flaws against a single GPU setup.

-Usually increases average and maximum framerate, but lowest peaks are generally equal or even lower than the single card solution. Framerate is generally much more irregular and unstable.
On a single 8800GT my FPS drops to 40 on Assassin's Creed @ 1920x1080 4xAA...with SLI the minimum is 60 FPS at the same settings...max is 67fps. Same goes for most of the games I play.

-Micro-stuttering (or as I prefer to call it, "fake" increased framerates at many games).

It doesn't make sense to me...what is exactly is that? Stuttering is usually a bug in the game...like in Gears of War even on high end single cards.

-Far from good scaling at some games

Again, if you care to check the link above, most games have worthy scaling for the price of SLI.


-Need a mobo that support it (which in the case of NVIDIA is even a worse problem. nForce chip? Eeeek. No thanks)

I have yet to develop the hate for an nForce chipset, but there has to be something if everyone talks negatively about it.


-Generally higher power consumption than an equivalent performance (if any) single card solution.
I agree with that too but it makes total sense.

Neural Net
06-28-08, 06:43 AM
You're telling me you never read any reviews? Or based your judgement upon a review? Or read them for an informed purchase? Maybe the games you play don't benefit from SLI, but SLI is better than CF even in games that suffer from multi-GPU support. The performance is actually WORSE than a single card in Crossfire. The biggest example for this is Gears of War on ATI HD3xxx Crossfire.

Im not a Nvidia fan boy. Infact my last card was ATI x1950 pro and I loved it. But as of now, im stuck with nvidia if i want multi-gpu support, and theres no denying that 8800GT is a winner is every sense of the word when it comes to that.

Actually the reverse is true, UT3 being an example. At least with 169.25 drivers, performance with 2 cards is actually slower than with one. Of course I read reviews, that is not what I said, what I said is that I am not basing my SLI knowledge off reviews - I had a 780i board with 2 8800GTs and SLI is actually pretty poor.

I am also using a 4850 Crossfire system at the moment and so far I have been impressed, it is much faster than 8800GT SLI.

With the 169.25 driver Assassin's Creed doesn't have an SLI profile, so when I had SLI there was a performance loss trying to use it.

Ally Cat
06-28-08, 07:11 AM
thats my dream setup, not like the unattainable quad 9800GX2 sex machine but the machine i could actually build this summer, and now i think i definitively will run SLI 8800 gt's thats some great performance, especially because i wanna be able to play crisis

repilce
06-28-08, 07:22 AM
I've only ever ran nvidia chipsets on AMD platforms, This "flakey" performance as of late is this across both cpu platforms, or more specific to intel nvidia boards?

Farinorco
06-28-08, 08:12 AM
On a single 8800GT my FPS drops to 40 on Assassin's Creed @ 1920x1080 4xAA...with SLI the minimum is 60 FPS at the same settings...max is 67fps. Same goes for most of the games I play.

Look at these graphics comparing framerate through time in an apples-to-apples (same settings) comparison of 9800GTX, SLI and 3-way SLI with Crysis, Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty 4 at [h]ard ocp:

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ5Niw2LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

You can see as lowest peaks are the same for the three systems, and the line is much more irregular in SLI configurations even if average and top framerates are higher in SLI mode. That's not good for a smooth gameplay. There are even points where SLI performance falls under single card one, and on some graphics, the SLI performance is not so good as it should...

It doesn't make sense to me...what is exactly is that? Stuttering is usually a bug in the game...like in Gears of War even on high end single cards.

To say it in few words, is a frame output synchronization issue due to the way AFR (the currently used multi-GPU technique) spread the work amongst the various GPUs (each GPU renders a whole frame by its own, and they're all supposed to be working in paralel, instead of working together to render each frame).

The main problem comes when the CPU work load is low (it happens often) and the frames being rendered in paralel are displayed at nearly the same time. In a 2x GPUs system, for example, you would have 2 practically equal frames consecutively, then a time gap similar to the 1 GPU rendering, then other 2 practically equal frames, and so. You have a doubled framerate, but the perceived animation is not smoother than 1 GPU rendering.

Again, if you care to check the link above, most games have worthy scaling for the price of SLI.

Yeah, talking about average framerates I should give you this one. Again, average framerates not always give an accurate measure of a game smoothness or playability.

I have yet to develop the hate for an nForce chipset, but there has to be something if everyone talks negatively about it.

Heh, I have never had a NVIDIA chipset mobo myself to tell you the truth, but I've read enough terror stories about them to have any intention to do it... but I must confess that I'm talking about other people experiences, nothing first hand really. Even so, I've read much about ocasional hd data corruption, memory dying, stability issues, sub-par hd performance, not so good overclocking (except top-end boards) and so about mobos usually more expensive than their Intel counterparts...

gigabit
06-28-08, 08:18 AM
Actually the reverse is true, UT3 being an example. At least with 169.25 drivers, performance with 2 cards is actually slower than with one. Of course I read reviews, that is not what I said, what I said is that I am not basing my SLI knowledge off reviews - I had a 780i board with 2 8800GTs and SLI is actually pretty poor.

I am also using a 4850 Crossfire system at the moment and so far I have been impressed, it is much faster than 8800GT SLI.

With the 169.25 driver Assassin's Creed doesn't have an SLI profile, so when I had SLI there was a performance loss trying to use it.
I hope you have a 24 in monitor or better .With my two GTS's i dont see much of an improvements in my games at 1600x1200 with SLI vs Single card.I have to try Crysis's i Have yet to run it in SLI.Matter of fact i have to reinstall it it some how got corruptted and will not start now

Neural Net
06-28-08, 08:19 AM
I hope you have a 24 in monitor.With my two GTS's i dont see much of an improvements in my games at 1600x1200 with SLI vs Single card.

Yes I am, 1920x1200. Crysis at High, 1920x1200 with 2x4850s is running at 45fps typical, the skydiving section at the beginning runs at 55fps. :drool:


... 8800GTs in SLI can't even get near this, about half the performance.

gigabit
06-28-08, 08:21 AM
Yes I am, 1920x1200. Crysis at High, 1920x1200 with 2x4850s is running at 45fps typical, the skydiving section at the beginning runs at 55fps. :drool:
Nice FPS.

stupid question..lol i just read you do

sprinj76
06-28-08, 11:52 AM
This forum needs less fighting and more eye candy!

My 8800 GT SLI setup. Setup for about a week now and I love it.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/sprinj76/DSC03738.jpg


http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/sprinj76/DSC03739.jpg

BlackEdition
06-28-08, 04:33 PM
sprinj76,

have you overclocked your cards? i would like to run an 8800gt sli set up as well, but am concerned that i am not going to be able to overclock the cards much with the stock cooling.

also, i noticed that you have a 22' inch monitor. do you game at 1680 by 1050? that is the res that i game at, and i am trying to determine if i am going to get enough of a performance increase to merit purchasing the second card.

thanks!

necrokiller
06-28-08, 08:49 PM
Man, for some games Crossfire is better and others SLI. If one can do both on their chipset...theres no reason to rule out one setup over the other as both perform differently in different games. The bottom line should be the pricing, bundle and warranty. If i could do Crossfire, and I would see that most types of games that I play benefit from it, and it costs less than 8800GT SLI, I would take it any day without hesitance. But as it turns out, most games I play have that `NVIDIAAAAAHH` TWIMTBP stamp on it, and it performs well on SLI. It may be just a marketing scheme or developer support, but SLI does outperform Crossfire in that case, and nvidia fails to outperform ATI in games like Half-Life 2. IM also limited by nForce chipset here, which despite all the hate from literally 95% of the ppl, has given me no problems whatsoever. HD corruption was fixed with the bios update etc etc. And my first OC was from 3.0 to 4.3GHz on my E8400 but I have mediocre cooling so I turned it down. Considering that I had NO CLUE whatsoever about CPU Overclocking, my board did 90% of the work on its own and Im very satisfied with it. So theres not a clear winner here in my opinion.

vivepulicaci23
06-28-08, 09:30 PM
The solution is this mainboard
check this

http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D5400XS/index.htm

It has 4 pci-e slot, you can run crossfire or SLI, whatever you want!!!

necrokiller
06-28-08, 10:16 PM
The solution is this mainboard
check this

http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D5400XS/index.htm

It has 4 pci-e slot, you can run crossfire or SLI, whatever you want!!!

Wow!! Unfortunately not cost effective. ill pass. :(

sprinj76
06-29-08, 01:18 AM
sprinj76,

have you overclocked your cards? i would like to run an 8800gt sli set up as well, but am concerned that i am not going to be able to overclock the cards much with the stock cooling.

also, i noticed that you have a 22' inch monitor. do you game at 1680 by 1050? that is the res that i game at, and i am trying to determine if i am going to get enough of a performance increase to merit purchasing the second card.

thanks!

I haven't overclocked my cards yet (trying to keep the lifetime warranty). But I do have a friend that overclocks his and he's had great results. Just adjust the fan the 70%-80% and the cards will run much cooler than stock and will keep the temps down.

I do game at 1680x1050, i haven't found a game yet I can't turn it all on (except crysis). I mainly play CS-S, DOD-S, UT3, Guild wars, Sins of a Solar Empire, Civ 4, Bioshock, and Crysis.

I have been very happy with the upgrade I went from a single 8800 GTS 640mb to this SLI setup because these cards are so cheap now. I would deffinately pick up another card, I think it will be more than worth it for you.

vivepulicaci23
06-29-08, 05:42 AM
Guys i hav a doubt..
Will a company overclocked edition and a normal stock clocked edition can do SLI ???