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I've been lookin for newer waterblocks out there and I stumbled on this one at CLUBoc.net (http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/water_cooling/maxxxpert/index.htm) it looks pretty sweet the reveiws a bit shot though. They seem to be really well made just lettin u guys know.
couple of pics for the lazy surfers out there :burn:
http://www.maxxxpert.com/english/image/pump10s150.jpg
http://www.maxxxpert.com/english/image/monos150.jpg
http://www.maxxxpert.com/english/image/miro2s150.jpg
GoldenTiger
01-07-02, 10:08 PM
The radiator is HORRIBLY constricting on waterflow and has horrible static back-pressure and heat conduction to the fins. It appears to be a variation of the SuperCube from DangerDen.
The pump looks like an Eheim 1048 with a small reservoir on it? Pretty good. I'm reading the article right now...
The waterblock is just a sharper-cornered Maze II/Spir@l, but another variation is always good :).
EDIT: Just read further in: The block is a Swiftech 462... its hose mounting system is horrible :(. The small reservoir attatches via SUCTION :eek:, which isn't secure at all, and the radiator is high on constriction. Watercooling's fun to read about, but that kit doesn't look very good :(. They also make it sound like the pump won't last long. That review definitely seems skewed...
arhines
01-08-02, 01:22 AM
Hm, i'm very interested to see how the wide/thick alternating channel walls fare. Seems to me that you would want the opposite...more copper in the middle, less on the outside. (Or maybe just more but thinner fins in the middle).
As for the eheim 1048, i would guess that is just a filling tube/to get bubbles out. Don't think anyone would use that as an actual reservoir...
Originally posted by GoldenTiger
The radiator is HORRIBLY constricting on waterflow and has horrible static back-pressure and heat conduction to the fins. It appears to be a variation of the SuperCube from DangerDen.
The pump looks like an Eheim 1048 with a small reservoir on it? Pretty good. I'm reading the article right now...
The waterblock is just a sharper-cornered Maze II/Spir@l, but another variation is always good :).
EDIT: Just read further in: The block is a Swiftech 462... its hose mounting system is horrible :(. The small reservoir attaches via SUCTION :eek:, which isn't secure at all, and the radiator is high on constriction. Watercooling's fun to read about, but that kit doesn't look very good :(. They also make it sound like the pump won't last long. That review definitely seems skewed...
The block is not a swiftech and the tube clamps are professionally made and used around the world for many uses because they can withstand high pressure and disconnect easily without having to recut your tube. It's completely different from swiftech's design and you might be right about the radiator but that is not a reservoir.
I think it's a hell of a lot better than koolances design. Also I like the fact that there professionally made not like a lot of hobby waterblock makers.
Well that's just my 2 cents...
Voodoo Rufus
01-08-02, 11:26 AM
That cooling kit looks decent to me. The block is definitely not a Swiftech. Look at the mounting system and the maze.
I don't think it's bad at all.
You get the whole system for $150 right down to the shim, goop, and water too. The pump's an Eheim too, which is a good bonus.
The radiator does look a tad on the small side, but I personally think a heater-core is overkill (I use a heater core, no flames please) since most hc's will handle a pelt easily. If you're not going to use a peltier, there's little reason to take up that space.
I wouldn't recomend using that 120 to 80mm adapter for it though, instead cut the case to match the rad shroud.
By the way, I used to use those fittings at work on resistence welders (years ago) and they are without a doubt, fabulous. The only time they leaked was with a bad end cut. The included tubing cutter would take care of this though.
All in all, not a bad deal.IMHO
*edit* Not a bad idea to add some silicone/marine goop around the res/pump joint...just incase the pump sucks air from there.
Originally posted by Diggrr
I don't think it's bad at all.
You get the whole system for $150 right down to the shim, goop, and water too. The pump's an Eheim too, which is a good bonus.
The radiator does look a tad on the small side, but I personally think a heater-core is overkill (I use a heater core, no flames please) since most hc's will handle a pelt easily. If you're not going to use a peltier, there's little reason to take up that space.
I wouldn't recomend using that 120 to 80mm adapter for it though, instead cut the case to match the rad shroud.
By the way, I used to use those fittings at work on resistence welders (years ago) and they are without a doubt, fabulous. The only time they leaked was with a bad end cut. The included tubing cutter would take care of this though.
All in all, not a bad deal.IMHO
*edit* Not a bad idea to add some silicone/marine goop around the res/pump joint...just incase the pump sucks air from there.
I definately agree the 80mm adapter is just plain silly and the goop idea sounds pretty interesting :eh?: now the only thing missing is a nice big peltier...hehe
looks pretty good..but that puny resovoir has to go...
Originally posted by Jeniva
looks pretty good..but that puny resovoir has to go...
HEHE....thats what tuperware's for ..:beer:
GoldenTiger
01-11-02, 09:41 PM
Someone posted an article on overclockers.com testing radiators. The DangerDen SuperCube looks like a slightly larger version of the radiator used here and stunk at cooling due to heavy constriction and bad fin contact.
That strains the pump and makes for bad cooling.
A heatercore isn't overkill since it'll let you have tons of components rather than just one without being overloaded.
Kits are bad. They're like buying a computer whole rather than building it. You get one or two good parts, and pay a fortune for the rest of them and get worse than you could have gotten for the same money by a large margin. In this kit, the good parts are the pump and the waterblock (Maze II). The pump is a lower-end Eheim (1048), whereas the 1250 is a few bucks more than a 1048 seperately and is much better.
Add up the amount you could get ASII, a Maze II, an Eheim 1250, some random tubing, and a heater core for.
ASII: $6.34 shipped (svcompucycle.com)
Maze II: $42 (dangerden.com)
Eheim 1250 $62 (better than the 1048 in the kit by a good margin; dangerden.com)
Tubing: $5 (reinforced silicone hose braided from mcmaster.com)
Heater Core: $15 (local auto store)
Reservoir: $5 (random tupperware or whatever)
Tell me: How hard is it to type your credit card info twice rather than once? Why would you get a ton less cooling for MORE money? Would you buy a 1.8ghz Williamette P4 instead of an Athlon 1400 when the 1400 performs better and costs less? If you would, no offense, but you strike me as rather moronic!
:mad: :mad:
The Overclocker
01-12-02, 05:16 AM
the kit looks abit cheep, any one here would be better putting one together with good parts.
if people still want a kit their are other options like the swiftech (not based on passive cooling)
Originally posted by GoldenTiger
Someone posted an article on overclockers.com testing radiators. The DangerDen SuperCube looks like a slightly larger version of the radiator used here and stunk at cooling due to heavy constriction and bad fin contact.
That strains the pump and makes for bad cooling.
A heatercore isn't overkill since it'll let you have tons of components rather than just one without being overloaded.
Kits are bad. They're like buying a computer whole rather than building it. You get one or two good parts, and pay a fortune for the rest of them and get worse than you could have gotten for the same money by a large margin. In this kit, the good parts are the pump and the waterblock (Maze II). The pump is a lower-end Eheim (1048), whereas the 1250 is a few bucks more than a 1048 seperately and is much better.
Add up the amount you could get ASII, a Maze II, an Eheim 1250, some random tubing, and a heater core for.
ASII: $6.34 shipped (svcompucycle.com)
Maze II: $42 (dangerden.com)
Eheim 1250 $62 (better than the 1048 in the kit by a good margin; dangerden.com)
Tubing: $5 (reinforced silicone hose braided from mcmaster.com)
Heater Core: $15 (local auto store)
Reservoir: $5 (random tupperware or whatever)
Tell me: How hard is it to type your credit card info twice rather than once? Why would you get a ton less cooling for MORE money? Would you buy a 1.8ghz Williamette P4 instead of an Athlon 1400 when the 1400 performs better and costs less? If you would, no offense, but you strike me as rather moronic!
:mad: :mad:
Just for the record I actually sat down and did the math. The maze II , Pump, res, rad and tubing you forgot shipping. Min shipping from sites is usually $5 probably more for the mazeII ground so add another $20 bucks (the least). Which brings you to $155.34. Plus it doesn't come with a cpu shim, distilled water and the L type fittings I love so much(kinking of tubing sux in sharp 90 degree turns ):mad: :mad: .The block is clearly not a mazeII you gotta be blind to think that. The whole clip design of this new block is amazing straight onto the socket(no pulling out yer mobo to install a watercooler:)
Originally posted by the overclocker
the kit looks abit cheep, any one here would be better putting one together with good parts.
if people still want a kit their are other options like the swiftech (not based on passive cooling)
Not a bad idea but I rather own Maxxxperts block instead of swiftech.
Originally posted by Voodoo Rufus
That cooling kit looks decent to me. The block is definitely not a Swiftech. Look at the mounting system and the maze.
Overclockers.com will be having it for review in a week I'm told. You'll finally get to get a good idea of it's true performance.
:eek:
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