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which overclocks better? the 1000e or the 1100e?
cuz apperently because of supply and demand the 1000e is very hard to find and is $30 more but if it can overclock better im gonna buy that one.
anyone?
well 1100E is SL5QW and 1000E is SL5QV. The number of entries in the overclockers.com database may tell. If I can try both without paying it I prefer 1100E, though if I need to bet my money on, I tend to be conservative and take 1000E.
but you can go for Tualeron 1.0A with a new slotket??;)
MilkPowder-2
01-08-02, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by BigRed
which overclocks better? the 1000e or the 1100e?
cuz apperently because of supply and demand the 1000e is very hard to find and is $30 more but if it can overclock better im gonna buy that one.
anyone?
Are you planning to OC very high?
And to enjoy the high FSB bandwidth?
Then you should go with 1000E cD0 SL5QV. Have yourself good mobo that'll handle well@ 140+FSB. Be sure you have good PSU also. These will overclock higher than 1100E cD0 SL5QW in terms of FSB bandwidth.
If you're going to use Peltier setup as you mentioned before, OC'ing the 1100E might be good idea too although you still may not get as high FSB OC as the 1000E. You'll need some good PSU here since you're talking a pelt setup and 1100E!! Be sure you got plenty of power and quality supply.
Overall, if you apply same type of cooling to both CPUs, you'll get better performance on the 1000E. Depends on the cooling and voltage you're going to give, you could OC the 1000E to somewhere between 1333mhz - 1400mhz. I can't guarantee but you'll have good chance. The 1100E oc to somewhere between 1300mhz - 1400mhz. So, mhz wise they may not differ much. It's up to you. Im favored to 1000E's.
Originally posted by MilkPowder-2
Are you planning to OC very high?
And to enjoy the high FSB bandwidth?
Then you should go with 1000E cD0 SL5QV. Have yourself good mobo that'll handle well@ 140+FSB. Be sure you have good PSU also. These will overclock higher than 1100E cD0 SL5QW in terms of FSB bandwidth.
If you're going to use Peltier setup as you mentioned before, OC'ing the 1100E might be good idea too although you still may not get as high FSB OC as the 1000E. You'll need some good PSU here since you're talking a pelt setup and 1100E!! Be sure you got plenty of power and quality supply.
Overall, if you apply same type of cooling to both CPUs, you'll get better performance on the 1000E. Depends on the cooling and voltage you're going to give, you could OC the 1000E to somewhere between 1333mhz - 1400mhz. I can't guarantee but you'll have good chance. The 1100E oc to somewhere between 1300mhz - 1400mhz. So, mhz wise they may not differ much. It's up to you. Im favored to 1000E's.
think my 550w enermax is enough? :p hehe
im going to try and push it as high as i can so i guess ill fork over the extra $30 and get the 1000e
MilkPowder-2
01-08-02, 12:41 AM
550watt Enermax? oh yeah that'll shove it good with Peltier setup that u'll be using. You might even beat me in OC'ing this puppy! I can go upto 144fsb(set in BIOS) but registers as 1450 in windows. That's about all I can go with SK-6. I'm done with it. Later I will do the Peltier+air setup on this baby. I also need to do the burn-in. I haven't had the time to do it properly. I need to bring down that voltage a couple notches and with Peltier setup, might be possible to hit 1.5Ghz. That would be awesome.
talking about peltiers, what is the purpose of using a cold plate (a 4mm copper/aluminum plate)?
I used to use peltier with K62-450 a couple years ago, I decap the K6-2 (took away the metal plate) and used the ceramic area of the peltier in direct contact with the die (I dare not use the metal plate to touch the die) and it worked quite well. I had about 17 degrees celcius of the cpu@500mhz. But why need to use the cold plate?
BoYRaCeR
01-08-02, 01:21 AM
1000E definitely. :D Because of some screw up by one place... instead of giving me a refund they sent me a new proc. Now I have two.. :D ...but i'm not selling it :p ...just in case i burn this one up. :D
MilkPowder-2
01-08-02, 01:27 AM
Soil, that's good question. I don't have experience in Peltier as I have not mentioned that I have used it before. It seems you have more knowledge in this area. Find out... they've got sites that explains all about it.
BoyRacer, hey. You got two of them now and going to keep both? That's good idea. :D If u've read my post in AT, I have two also. It's my backup just in case I blow it. Have fun ya
Newbie_Doo
01-08-02, 01:38 AM
Cold plates help to reduce the temperature swings a peltier cooled chip will experience by acting as a place to store and more gradually dissipate the thermal energy transfer. In doing so, it also provides the TEC with a more uniform surface temperature across the entire surface of the pelt thus maximizing the effectiveness of the peltier itself.
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there are only several of us running 1100E's right now and we are all pretty much in the low 1300's rock stable. Mine will boot up in the high 1300's but not stable yet....hopefully a longer burn-in will help
radadman got his 1100E running at 133FSB right off the bat from what I can remember
I picked the 1100E over the 1000 hoping for a lucky chip
BoYRaCeR
01-08-02, 03:27 AM
Yah i got a backup...just like YOU! :D i'm dying to know how fast it could go though... but i dont wanna mess with my system now. i'm happy with it. :D
Originally posted by BoYRaCeR
Yah i got a backup...just like YOU! :D i'm dying to know how fast it could go though... but i dont wanna mess with my system now. i'm happy with it. :D
then do you wanna sell one of your chips? please? :)
BoYRaCeR
01-08-02, 11:09 AM
I wish I could sell it to you... but :p i did find one for you though... but its the same people that screwed up on me which is the reason i got two of these things now. its star-components.com (http://www.star-components.com) . They first sent me a 1.1Ghz celeron... either by mistake or simply because they ran out of the chips and just hoped that i would think a 1.1ghz celeron is faster than a 1ghz p3. either way, i sent it back with an RMA... and the turnaround time was around two weeks. not bad. :) only bad thing was i paid for shipping. :( good luck... edgemicro.com has them too although i dont know much about them. :(
Originally posted by BoYRaCeR
I wish I could sell it to you... but :p i did find one for you though... but its the same people that screwed up on me which is the reason i got two of these things now. its star-components.com (http://www.star-components.com) . They first sent me a 1.1Ghz celeron... either by mistake or simply because they ran out of the chips and just hoped that i would think a 1.1ghz celeron is faster than a 1ghz p3. either way, i sent it back with an RMA... and the turnaround time was around two weeks. not bad. :) only bad thing was i paid for shipping. :( good luck... edgemicro.com has them too although i dont know much about them. :(
so you jus thave an extra chip laying around collecting dust and u dont want the cash for it? bah u confuse me :p heh
is the one at star components the cD0 stepping? i dont wanna get stuck with a cC0
I got my 1100E from spartantechnologies http://www.spartantech.com/
the price was decent and they shipped it quick
http://www.spartantech.com/items/cpus/IntelAll.asp?orderID=64905191615620058774947 is their link for all intel CPU's
BoYRaCeR
01-08-02, 07:32 PM
yup i got a back up in case this one burns out... just in case. I dont want to be left out in the cold when something happnes (knock on wood)... :D I believe all 1000MHz FCPGA 100MHz FSB are cDO steppings. Just be sure they have it in stock... or else they'll send you something else.
Not all 1ghz cD0 processors are 100mhz fsb.
The SL52R & SL5B3 are 133mhz fsb.
Specs on cpu's (http://support.intel.com/support/processors/sspec/p3p.htm)
Originally posted by A.K.A.
Not all 1ghz cD0 processors are 100mhz fsb.
The SL52R & SL5B3 are 133mhz fsb.
Specs on cpu's (http://support.intel.com/support/processors/sspec/p3p.htm)
There are two types of 1 Gig P3, E and EB.
E runs on the 100 fsb EB runs on 133.
Yodums
BoYRaCeR
01-09-02, 10:53 PM
Not all 1ghz cD0 processors are 100mhz fsb.
I know that. I meant that all FCPGA 1GHz 100MHz FSB ARE cDo steppings. :D
Originally posted by BoYRaCeR
I know that. I meant that all FCPGA 1GHz 100MHz FSB ARE cDo steppings. :D
:D SL4MF & SL4C8 ARE cC0 FCPGA
funnyperson1
01-09-02, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by soil
:D SL4MF & SL4C8 ARE cC0 FCPGA
yeah, but theyre 133mhz fsb...
:D ah...get it, okay okay...
there is only one S-SPEC for PIII 1000mhz with 100mhz FSB: SL5QV, it is only in cD0 stepping, it is only in FCPGA package
the rest are 133mhz FSB, among these are cC0 and cB0 SECC2, cC0 and cD0 FCPGA, and also a cD0 FCPGA2 w/ IHT
and for PIII1100, there is only one S-SPEC: SL5QW
100mhz, cD0, FCPGA
apparently the cD0 of all the above are the best of PIII CuMine but unfortunately there is not an 100mhz FSB FCPGA2 w/IHT
and MilkPowder is very right, if you have water-cooling and/or Peltier, go for the PIII1100
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