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running a q6600 at stock speeds and my temps are 44,36,38,44 ambient is 30-31. this is with my lapped q6600 and apogee gt. both were done to 800 grit. i also tried a different waterblock and am getting the same results. using mx-2 TIM. my set up is cooling both my cpu and gpu with a pa 120.3. load temps get as high as 56c after about 4 hours of prime. my set up is a little different too. i use 2 y's from the rad one going to the cpu and the other the gpu to get the coolest water possible to help with my gpu temps as they reach about 50c on idle as well. just a little concerned, and jealous, seeing eveyone getting great temps and im higher than i would like to be.
sounds to me that your pump is struggling with that Y in the line have you tried it with the Y and see your temps. Also what video card are you running
the mid 30's idle is about right btw. on the middle cores, miight have an uneven lap
What pump are you using? Sure sounds like your dont have enough flow.
Also where is your rad located? Is it getting cool air through it?
Those Y's will hurt your restriction. My advice would be to dump the Y's and just put the GPU after the CPU.
schmide
07-16-08, 02:30 PM
Sounds like your Y's are making you ask, "Whys my temps so high?"
I would either remove the Y's and run everything is series or reverse the Y's so you get fast water over your blocks and slow water in your rads. For the most part, if you split your loop you cant rely on a single pump to keep the water moving in each sub loop. Water always takes the path of least resistance.
jokers_greg
07-16-08, 02:54 PM
definitely high dude. while your load is cooler, my sonic tower has similar idle temps with my Q6700 @ 3.6ghz
thats just it, it was that high before i did the y's, thats why i ran the y's. my lap is as flat as i can get it, i ran the ketchup test after it was done and it was evenly spread on the glass. my rad sits at the top of my case with 3 denki's blowing in. i probably dont have the best for airflow, but it doesnt make much of a difference, maybe 2c, with the side panel off.
jokers_greg
07-16-08, 06:59 PM
thats just it, it was that high before i did the y's, thats why i ran the y's. my lap is as flat as i can get it, i ran the ketchup test after it was done and it was evenly spread on the glass. my rad sits at the top of my case with 3 denki's blowing in. i probably dont have the best for airflow, but it doesnt make much of a difference, maybe 2c, with the side panel off.
hmm thats really strange. have you cleaned out the blocks? Don't know what OCers recommend but I would just use some CLR. Leave it in the blocks/rad for an hour or so. then rinse. Other than that... air bubbles maybe?
jokers_greg
07-16-08, 07:01 PM
that PA 120.3 should be handling that load with 0 problems. are you sure the rad has been cleaned properly?
shachar2
07-17-08, 02:06 AM
question: would an F fitting make any difference and allow you to run 'parallel' loops? (as opposed to a Y fitting)
jokers_greg
07-17-08, 06:53 AM
I don't think thats the problem, considering he tried the loop without Y fittings, and with. Both resulted in the same thing. My best guesses are air bubbles, or gunk in your blocks/rad.
my blocks are clean, but when i redo my loop, im gonna remove the y's, at that time im gonna run some hot water and clr in the rad to make sure thats all nice and clean. i dont think there are any air bubbles in the rad as i can tip, rotate the case and nothing comes out. i got my ac running again and its still about 12c above ambient temps for the hottest core. so, looks like this weekend i got alot of work ahead of me.
edit: also thinking about removing my gpu from the loop. would that benefit me any?
jokers_greg
07-17-08, 07:18 AM
yep! enjoy. My money's on gunk in the rad!
oddly enough i hope its something cause otherwise im just stumped. i checked the connection last night thinking maybe there wasnt even pressure or maybe too much/not enough TIM, everything looked fine. since ill have my loop apart ill check the lapping on it again to make sure everything is flat too.
how are you mounting it? Pro mount or quick mount? if it's pro try tightening down some more
how are you mounting it? Pro mount or quick mount? if it's pro try tightening down some more
right now im using my Sub-Zero ExodusFlow Altauna which uses a bolt through. i have tighten those things as tight as i can with my fingers.
next question then, how much did you lap off? could have lapped to far and it isn't making full contact wth the cores. Just fired up my q6600 last night myself and idle temps are about 1 degree over room temp @ 3.0 ghz and 1.3v haven't put it under load tho, other than windows reinstall. Also with that apogee you might wanna bow the base, from what I've read that's the only way to go with it on a quad
i only lapped it to 800 grit and dont think i lapped too much off. they are still making good contact and spreading the tim appropriately.
Update:
got rid of the y's cleaned off the block and cpu and now my temps are 38,35,38,32 w/ a 26c ambient temp. i didnt use clr, but went with 70% alcohol for about an hour and numerous rinses with distilled water and alcohol and nothing seemed to come out. the good thing is my gpu dropped about 3c but my cpu is still 12c above ambient. i have mounted the block 3 times and this last time was the best mount.
any other idea's? could it just be i got a hot cpu?
what fans do you have on the pa (and at what voltage). The big issue is the change from ambient to load with only a q6600 (not overclocked) and one gpu then depending on your fans a 12C delta is possible (though if you have anything more then the slowest yates it should be less then that). What are you using to measure the tempatures (differnet programs give different numbers and none are all that accurate)?
im using 3 kaze 110cfm pulling air through the rad, running at full speed. my rad is positioned at the top of the case. before i was using denki's pushing the air through the rad, also at full speed. i am using core temp, pc wizard, cpuid hardware monitor and everest. all show the same temps (within 1c)
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