NEED HELP, fellow members!!!

[LandShark]

i have networked all my machines together at my home, and running a Linksys Wireless AP + Router w/ 4 Ports Switch connect to my cable modem.

however, my cable service is switching their network. (was w/ @home). and it's been down for 2 days already! :mad:

and here's the problem!!

"only" 2 of my machines has dail-up modem in it. both faster one, the XP doesn't have modem!! and the cache in both machines is gonna run out sometimes 2morrow!!

so, i'm wondering what can i do to set all WUs from them, and fill up the cache again?? i know i could use the one has modem in it to upload/download WUs. but how exactly to use the one has modem in it to upload/download for the other 2 machines???

tks in advance!!

:( :confused: :mad:

[TC]

If I remember correctly I *think* you can use connection sharing if you're running 2k or a recent flavor of Winx. This would act like a proxy server I believe. Problem is I don't know if that's good enough for Seti driver or any of the other caching utils without some added configuring. I also think you would have to disable the dhcp feature in the linksys router and go static on your local side - assuming you want to share the dial up connection. I'll give it some more though. I faced a similar problem when @Home first pulled the plug, but Charter got us going again within a day so my cache was sufficient.

[LandShark]

oh, i try to avoid the internet connection sharing from Windows. 'cos i don't want to mess up my network and connection when it comes back alive. u know, networking is a pain sometimes....

what i'm meant was can i do soemthing like, cut & paste the WUs from the other 2 machines into the one has modem. and just use SETIDriver to upload / download it again. then paste it back to the 2 machines??

something like that......

or access those 2 machines and somehow upload it from the machine that has modem in it??

'bout less than a day's worth of WU left.......:eh?:

[LandShark]

Comcast did say it should be back alive w/in 24hrs when i call them up this afternoon. but u know, NEVER believe those custom care rep. when they giving u a time or date....

CAN'T crunch on this time 2morrow, 1/10.......:(

[Mictlan]

All your computer share a peer to peer network, right?

Just stop SETI from one of the machines. Then copy all the folder to one of machines with a dial-up connection. Connect to the internet and fire up the folder you transfered from the first machine. This way you will upload/download all the WU (with a 56k connection and 30 WU you will be expecting around 25-30 minutes). Afterwards, just stop the SETIDriver and then return the folder to the first machine.....

Do the same with the same with all the machines.

This is a variation of the floppy trick, but with a network is easier.

[JigPu]

Your copy/paste idea might work. I have no experience with Driver, but will it let you import WUs? If it does, then all you should have to do is stick them WUs on a floppy and import them into Driver, upload, download more, and then export them to disk from Driver.

JigPu

[Mictlan]

I will tell you what I have done in the past when I had some trouble uploading WU at work (someway they keep disappering, that is I uploaded them but I've got no credit for crunching them).....I copy the results.sah file of each cache foldr to a floppy disk, then I went home I created a second SETI@home folder. I copied the results.sah file and the user_info.sah from the floppy to HD. I configured SETIDriver to have the number of results files as a desired cache lenght. I click the transmit button and SETIDriver began uploading the results and getting new WU for each file. I shutted down the program when it finished I just coppied the new WU into the floppy. When I returned home I just coppied the work_unit.sah file into the folder and voila I have finished.

With a floppy it's possible to do it once in a while with 5 or 6 WU, more a you began to need more floppies. With a network you could easily do it over the network to your rig with the internet connection more easy and les painfull.

[lonewolf1983]

u can just cut and paste the wu folders between setidriver's on different pcs

if it comes down to it you can always copy a few at a time to floppys and transfer it that way
anything to keep those pc's crunchin!!
:)

[Basher]

I have cut wu folders out of one pc and pasted them to another pc and it works fine just remember to change the name of the folder to a higher number than your cache. IE if you are moving finisher wu's then when you paste to upoad and your cache is 20 make it 21 the next 22 .......

[LandShark]

so, all i have to do is "cut & paste" the SETI folder from the other machines into the one has internet connection, probably re-name it. 'cos not into the main machine's SETI folder, right??

then run the Driver from the folder that's pasted from the other mahcines, right?

not run the from original Driver from the main machine right?

just a little confusing in here...?? :rolleyes:

[TC]

Originally posted by LandShark
so, all i have to do is "cut & paste" the SETI folder from the other machines into the one has internet connection, probably re-name it. 'cos not into the main machine's SETI folder, right??

then run the Driver from the folder that's pasted from the other mahcines, right?

not run the from original Driver from the main machine right?

just a little confusing in here...?? :rolleyes: Yes rename the folder when you move it to the machine with a net connection, and run the executable associated with the files you copied. Just consider the stuff you move from the other machine as completely separate. Don't try mixing them together. You can try this, but it has never worked for me with Seti driver. I've tried it two ways - one normal install on a machine with a connection, then copy all of the files and cache sub folders to a new machine. Tried starting Seti driver and it just sits there doing nothing the same way it does sometimes when you clear your cmos. I've also tried copying finished sets of units from one machine to another with a connection. Again try to start seti driver to upload the finished units and it gives an upside down red dish. No amount of clicking transmit etc. got it to do anything. It's almost like it identifies the hardware on a computer when it is first run, and then if it gets moved it won't work - heh almost like Win XP.

[LandShark]

tks guys!

i'll try it tonight when i got home.

"cut & paste" from other mahcines into the one has connection. as a sperate folder. run Drive w/in the folder from the other machines.

tks again for all ur help.

i'll let u guys know how's it going...... well, u could certainly tell if i suddenly dump a bunch of WUs....;)

[Mictlan]

What I hae done is copy the SETI@home folder from the machine that would be doing the upload as a different folder

Then copy the WU from the other machine with no internet connection into the cache I just created.

I then run SETIDriver from the new SETI@home folder.

Good luck.

[davidsnot]

Maybe I'm out of line, but all the machines are networked together right? Install SetiQue here (http://www.reneris.com/seti/download.asp) , and install it on the machine with a modem. Then point the other clients to the internal ip of the machine with setique with the

-proxy 192.168.1.1:5001 (use your own ip and port, obviously)

It will handle the cache, and you don't have to manage anything. That's how I'm doing it here. Got it on a server and all my machines point to it.

[Mictlan]

Originally posted by davidsnot
Maybe I'm out of line, but all the machines are networked together right? Install SetiQue here (http://www.reneris.com/seti/download.asp) , and install it on the machine with a modem. Then point the other clients to the internal ip of the machine with setique with the

-proxy 192.168.1.1:5001 (use your own ip and port, obviously)

It will handle the cache, and you don't have to manage anything. That's how I'm doing it here. Got it on a server and all my machines point to it.

Isn't it with that that some frogz that drop sometimes here manage their farms? MAybe this need some more investigation? Someone with lots of computer in one room.

[TC]

That's also a great program (seti que) but I ran into some trouble as I added more machines. Now of course I've got more boxes hooked up so this may not be an issue for those with fewer, but I found that occasionally two machines would be ready to upload at the same time and Seti Que would quit. Granted this didn't happen very often, but the more boxen you have the better the odds. Of course he's only looking for a temporary solution.

[davidsnot]

I haven't had a problem with that, but what I have noticed is that if my duallie tries to get 2 new WU at once, it will distribute the same one, twice. To fix that, I dedicated a port to each client. No more problem there.

Cy turned me onto it, he has a farm going using it. I was using a different one for a while, and found I was crunching as many for the people who wrote as i was for myself. Of course I probably did that myself with a setting somewhere. SetiQue is running on my 2kpro box as a service.

[Cy]

Yes SETIQueue works very well for me. I have 10 machines at home, some duallies, and 6 or so at work. I have two different instances going ala home and work but their tracking setup keeps them both combined. It has been very stable and trouble free for the last few months.

Cy

[Sir-Epix]

Originally posted by Cy
Yes SETIQueue works very well for me. I have 10 machines at home, some duallies, and 6 or so at work. I have two different instances going ala home and work but their tracking setup keeps them both combined. It has been very stable and trouble free for the last few months.

Cy

Hey Cy can you show us some updated pictures of your farm. I like looking at that phat rackmount you got going there.

[LandShark]

hmm.....sounds like it's the program that i need. 'cos i've been thinking of centralize all my rigs. put all SETI folder from each machines into a server. then run Spy off from that server.

it might give me beter control over it, even tho, it doesn't really need any maintainance anyway.

[davidsnot]

It keeps some pretty good stats, total cpu, which unit they're workingon, and so forth. I was trying to run spy on each instance, and eventually figured out that all I cared about was whether the client died or not. Started running coolmon, and if i'm doing it right, that shows the top process, which should be seti.

Was well worth the download, and needs no maintenance here.

[LandShark]

guess what?

i've just found out that Comcast had switched from @home to their own network, Comcase.net.

and instead of using status IP from @Home, they changed to dynamic IP. so, all i have to do is just change my router's setting, and i'm back onto the net now. :D

but i did try to cut and paste a of my machine into another one to upload/download all WUs, just in case for future reference. tks a lot of all u guys' help!! ;)

oh, FYI, just dump 50+WUs for the team, and counting.....:D

crunch on!!!!!!!

[TC]

Well that is good news. Funny thing though is that when I was with @Home - even from the get go almost 3 years ago, @Home was dynamic, not static - they even frowned on people trying to keep static settings. Then when the switch came I heard all of this talk about going from static to dhcp. Seems really odd....