View Full Version : GA-60XET Excellent results.....
Ok...I got my GA-XET-C in and installed it using a Cel. 1.2-T
After I got everything set up at default settings and made sure Win2k pro was working properly and updated everything (drivers, ect.) Bios F9...I first took it up to where I had the chip running in Tusl2-c and ran benchmarks in Sandra to see if they were comparable...and they were within a couple marks of each other.
I then took it up to 133 FSB....set the divider to pll16 which put me right in spec at 33/66....took the voltage to 1.5 and no go. Reset the voltage to 1.65 and BAM booted right into windoze.
Ran Sandra burn-in for a while and the cpu temps never moved. Stayed at 28c...rebooted again set my cpu fan speed up a little and now am idling at 25c.
I know in my heart that this thing works great. I could take it up much higher without a hitch with the dividers in this bios. Although I am going to run it right here at 1.6 ghz for a few days before trying any higher.
I am happy as a pig in a poke. This setup is great.
The only complaint I have is the same as others. It does hang on reset....but turn it off for a minute and it goes right back into windoze.....
[ WCPUID Version 3.0d (c) 1996-2001 By H.Oda! ]
Processor #1 : Intel Pentium III Xeon / B8F1B1AC
Platform : Socket370 (PGA370 Socket)
Vendor String : GenuineIntel
CPU Type : Original OEM Processor (0)
Family : 6 (-)
Model : 11 (-)
Stepping ID : 1 (-)
Brand : 3
APIC : ----
Name String : ----
Internal Clock : 1608.40 MHz
System Bus : 134.03 MHz
System Clock : 134.03 MHz
Multiplier : 12.0
L1 I-Cache : 16K Byte
L1 D-Cache : 16K Byte
L1 T-Cache : ----
L1 Cache : ----
L2 Cache : 256K Byte
L2 Speed : 1608.40 MHz (Full)
MMX Unit : Supported
SSE Unit : Supported
SSE2 Unit : Not Supported
MMX2 Unit : Not Supported
3DNow! Unit : Not Supported
3DNow!+ Unit : Not Supported
Host Bridge : 8086:1130.04 [Intel 815/815E/815EP/815EM]
South Bridge : 8086:2440.11 [Intel 82801BA (ICH2)]
VGA Device : 10DE:0110.A1 [NVIDIA GeForce2 MX /MX 400]
Memory Size : 512M Byte
Memory Clock : ----
OS Version : Windows 2000 Version 5.00.2195 Service Pack 2
-------------- : -----------------------------------
StdFunc 0 : 00000002 756E6547 6C65746E 49656E69
StdFunc 1 : 000006B1 00000003 00000000 0383F9FF
StdFunc 2 : 03020101 00000000 00000000 0C040882
00000017h : 84720000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000001Bh : 00000000 FEE00100 00000000 00000000
0000002Ah : 00000000 CC880000 00000000 00000000
00000119h : 00000000 9EBDB4B7 00000000 00000000
0000011Eh : 00000000 007427E3 00000000 00000000
##--- Date 01/09/2002, Time 23:29:49
My benchmarks in Sandra are wild:
Arithmetic : dry 4480
whet 2175
Cpu Multimedia: Integer 8826
Floating Pt 10957
Needless to say....if you have doubted from all the posts about this board...well.....no problems here....
wcpuid 3.0f has been released already:D
Well, stating that a mobo is stable at standard 133 fsb doesn't impress me. Most boards do this just fine.
What does Impress me is how easily you reached 1.6g. What type of cooler are you using? Has it proven to remain stable at 1.6? Is that a Phili or Maylay chip?
Good job OC2K! I've got the same mobo and i've been very happy with my purchace....
The reboot problem can be rectified by vidpinning the chip for more 'default' vcore....Unless you're like me and don't give a hoot if it dosen't reset....
I noticed, like my system, that your temps are also very low....Could it be the mobo?
What Ram timings are you running? And what are your Sandra mem benchmark results? (if you don't mind me asking).
Your low temps, I hardly doubt, is because of the motherboard. True, both of you run low voltages to achieve fairly stable OC results, therefore, yielding less heat. Strangly though, well for Fluid anyways, seem to have mediocre cooling, yet getting such great temps. I had no doubt that both of you have similar "awesome" chips.
O2K, I too would like to know what you're cooling with for that demon chip :D
If you say your temps don't move running Sandra, you may be recording incorrect temps, OR, unless you have massive cooling.
OC2K....You aren't using the Gigabyte mobo monitoring software are you? That software reads incorrectly with Tualatin based chips....Use the latest version of MBM and select the ITE 8712F-3 diode for CPU temp, read the readme file in regards to turning off the annoying alarm.
The reason I ask is The Gigabyte mobo monitoring software 'always' reads 25 degrees C for the Tualatin based chips!
Ok....
1. I am using a Alpha Pal 6035 with 40cfm fan that is on a rheostat idled to about 7000rpm
2. temps are taken from Sandra during burnin period. I too noticed that the temps in the Gigabyte hardware monitor are staying around 25c. Havent been using MBM 5 yet cause didnt know what which chip to monitor with and kept getting alarm.
3. I think that 133fsb IS great considering I couldnt get there before with the Tusl2-c and this board jumped right to it.
4. My ram timings are 2-2-2/5-7 using Micron PC 150 Ram
5. This is a retail Malay chip
6. My Sandra results are posted on the bottom of my first
post at the start of the thread
I will get MBM up and running tonight...must go to work now!
:)
ol' man
01-10-02, 11:18 AM
The opnly reason i would consider getting that mobo is if I could run 167fsb with the PCI and AGP in spec which confirmed by others does not happen. If this indeed is the case I will never recommend that board as I am in doubt that the 1/4 dividers work under 133fsb. There has been no real proof as of yet that it does as also 166fsb with 1/5 dividers. I can do 170+ fsb on my ST6. I am going to stay with the ST6.
6502kid
01-10-02, 01:03 PM
Nice job.
I am going to be getting a Celly-T sometime this week.
Hope mine will fire up as good as yours did....
I'm sorry ol'man....But links to other sites prove that the 'special' dividers work just fine on the XET (note I said XET not XET-C). I've 'never' seen a S370 mobo hit 200 mhz FSB before....Not the way the XET does!
The only reason I would consider an St-6 is....Well....I woulden't consider one....Not when my XET overclocks just as well and has more features....
And damn it's fast.
see this link....
200 mhz FSB (http://www.yesky.com/20011021/201612_1.shtml)
And as you can see via this link here....There are NUMEROUS differences between the XET and the XET-C....It appears they are discussing the more advanced divider options on the XET vs the XET-C. Look around the site and you will see numerous XET's achieving at least 190mhz FSB....
XET vs XET-C (http://www.svenshardware.com/07Mainboard/076oxet_cmod/6oxet_cmod.htm)
So I would say....Once again....That the XET 'is' the best S370 overclockers board out ATM....If you have troubles resetting....VID PIN the same way you do on the St-6....
Thank god I got this XET just before they were discontinued....:D
Originally posted by Flu!d
I'm sorry ol'man....But links to other sites prove that the 'special' dividers work just fine on the XET (note I said XET not XET-C). I've 'never' seen a S370 mobo hit 200 mhz FSB before....Not the way the XET does!
The only reason I would consider an St-6 is....Well....I woulden't consider one....Not when my XET overclocks just as well and has more features....
And damn it's fast.
see this link....
200 mhz FSB (http://www.yesky.com/20011021/201612_1.shtml)
And as you can see via this link here....There are NUMEROUS differences between the XET and the XET-C....It appears they are discussing the more advanced divider options on the XET vs the XET-C. Look around the site and you will see numerous XET's achieving at least 190mhz FSB....
XET vs XET-C (http://www.svenshardware.com/07Mainboard/076oxet_cmod/6oxet_cmod.htm)
So I would say....Once again....That the XET 'is' the best S370 overclockers board out ATM....If you have troubles resetting....VID PIN the same way you do on the St-6....
Thank god I got this XET just before they were discontinued....:D
The image is weird, it says Celeron 1.2 where the multiplier is 8?
Or is that an engeineering sample?
I think it states that they also use a 1.1....Still don't make sence, must be an ES....
6502kid
01-10-02, 03:51 PM
Cool ! I just ordered me up a 1.1A chip about 10 min. ago !
I will let you know if it cranks right up to 190+fsb.:rolleyes: :eek: :p
But seriously, I am hoping it will crank up over 134 or so...
Am going to try it first in my Soyo TISU board.
It is just sitting right now with everything it needs
but the processor. (512mb Kingmax, GF2 ect...)
If it dont run so good in that one, I will try it in the XET-C
board.
I can actually get the P3-S to run at somewhat higher FSB's
in the soyo than the XET-C, but the ideal point on both
seems to be 148 with 2-2-2 5/7 memory settings.
Wish I had snagged one of those XET's with the dips switches
before they discontinued it.....:(
Ol' Man....I have no need to sell this board to you or anyone else...but I will say Fluid is right...the divider in this bios does in fact work....you just dial in what it is you want...I am going to go for 1.9 ghz next week....and I think it will fly. I already know my memory can hang. I am at 1.65 Volts and default in this bios will take me to 1.825 without any wire tricks...
And by the way....this system doesnt hang...it starts as it should and it turns off as it should. The hanging only comes into play if you change a setting in the bios. Once you have what you want...it doesnt hang anymore. I dont see that as a problem since my Abit bh6 and bf6 both did that once in a while.
This is a great OC board...and like Fluid said, maybe the best out there........:cool:
Like I said before....NO board is perfect, especially for the Tualatin. But in my opinion the Gigabyte GA-60XET series is about as close as perfect gets.:)
ol' man
01-11-02, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by OC2K
Ol' Man....I have no need to sell this board to you or anyone else...but I will say Fluid is right...the divider in this bios does in fact work....you just dial in what it is you want...I am going to go for 1.9 ghz next week....and I think it will fly. I already know my memory can hang. I am at 1.65 Volts and default in this bios will take me to 1.825 without any wire tricks...
And by the way....this system doesnt hang...it starts as it should and it turns off as it should. The hanging only comes into play if you change a setting in the bios. Once you have what you want...it doesnt hang anymore. I dont see that as a problem since my Abit bh6 and bf6 both did that once in a while.
This is a great OC board...and like Fluid said, maybe the best out there........:cool:
Dude as for proof I have seen a ST6-E casper run a 255MHz fsb. It doesn't prove that it has 1/7 dividers. They used a after market turbo pLL. Maybe that is what they did there too. They never said in the article that it had the dividers( I also can't read chinese).
I want hard proof no speculation that they work! I have not seen a screeny yet showing the FSB/AGP/PCI speeds yet. I need this as until then I am not going to believe they exist!
I have hear dit from tohers here that inded they could not OC as high on the GA60XET as they could on the cusl2. FLuid I know you story forwards and backwords. You really need to get people some hard evidence to beack your claims cause so far those links above really prove nothing as the bioses they are using are very old ones like f4 or something. That does not jive with the pll16,pll20 options as I thought those were only available in the f6 beta's and above.
There is software out there and I told you could send you a very old version of sandra that could tell you your AGP speeds which would correlate exactly to your PCI speeds but guess what?????
You were not interested!
There is software out there and I told you could send you a very old version of sandra that could tell you your AGP speeds which would correlate exactly to your PCI speeds but guess what?????
When the hell did you mention this?? I'm sorry, but I can't remember that....
You've been trying real hard to discredit the XET right from the start ol'man....That's obvious....
Dude as for proof I have seen a ST6-E casper run a 255MHz fsb. It doesn't prove that it has 1/7 dividers. They used a after market turbo pLL. Maybe that is what they did there too. They never said in the article that it had the dividers( I also can't read chinese).
Funny....I've never seen an 815EP with a 255 mhz FSB selection....Can you even 'hit' 255 mhz FSB on this board? It's OK....I'll look it up to be sure....
If they used an aftermarket PLL then the above quote is basically null and void and really proves nothing....And if the Gigabyte board pulled 190-200 mhz FSB with the older bioses and no 1/5th and 1/6th pci divider AND NO AFTERMARKET TURBO PLL then it just goes to show how good the board really is....Because AGP and PCI bus speeds would have been hitting the roof!
Hell....One of the users on 'this' forum is hitting 180 or so mhz FSB with the Gigabyte board....
Celemine1Gig
01-11-02, 05:40 PM
YES you're right Flu!d!! That's me! ;)
Here's the picture again!
As I said, it's not stable for more than 15 minutes, but I didn't add any cooling to the board till now. I'll add a northbridge heatsink with fan and some heatsinks on clock generator and voltage regulator, maybe tomorrow. Then I hope it'll be stable at at least 180 MHz FSB and perhaps even at 200 MHz where it boots now, but hangs on the first windows screen.
I wouldn't say that the Gigabyte is the best Tualatin board out there, because it's the only FCPGA2 board I tested so far, and Abit and Asus sure are very good boards too, but it definetly was worth the money!
And as I already explained in another thread, the PCI dividers must be working, because on an FSB of 180 MHz, the PCI speed would be 45 MHz and I don't think that any harddrive I know could handle that speed! And NO I didn't turn off the UDMA mode. The drive was running UDMA5 (ATA 100)!:)
muddocktor
01-11-02, 05:58 PM
ol' man,
This thread is talking about the GA6OXET and XET-C, not the ST6 board. It is obvious that you do not own either of the Gigabyte boards, so what you are posting in this thread is just crap; trying to start a flame war in my opinion. I don't care about your opinion of the merits or problems that these XET boards have because you don't know anything about them but what you've read and assumed, and not based on physical observation. OC2K, Flu!d, myself, and others all have these boards, so what we are posting is pertinent to our boards and we are trying to achieve the maximum performance that we can with our choice of motherboards. Please quit trying to take a dump on our boards when you don't have any experience with them. I'm not making any comments about the ST6 boards because I don't have any personal experience with them and I'm not going to put forth any preconceived BS without any physical experience working with the board.
OC2K,
That's a nice overclock on that 1.2 Celleratin, dude. I can hardly wait to get my board running with the pelt and watercooling installed with my P3 1.26S proc. So far, I've had it up to 1454/153 fsb with the stock hsf that came with the proc. I think that I might run into problems with my sdram when I get up over 155 fsb though and might have to try to find some super high speed ram somewhere.
Thanks.....I agree that the OC with this board is great. Average OC speeds for most board/processors is 200mhz and I have 400Mhz with the setup. I know I can go higher. The dividers DO ABSOLUTELY WORK...I dont know why people dont want to believe that. I couldn't hit the mark with the Tusl2-c because the pci bus was pulled out of spec and one of my harddrives went nuts. I am glad I went with it. I have owned and OC'd with ABit
and Asus boards and this one has been the best Overclocker I personally have owned.
Muddocktor, let us know the results with your FSB's and Sdram situation...I am interested in knowing all I can with this setup. I am going up higher within the next few days...I will keep you posted as well...
By the way...How you you guys get the actual graphics from wcpuid and cpuz...I hit copy and only get the text?
TIA
oldfart
01-11-02, 11:08 PM
Maybe someone can give me some insite why mine doesn't work. I have tried this many times on my XET-C. With a 133 FSB PIIIEB 1000, I can run 160 FSB, 1.2 Ghz, normal, 40/80 PCI/AGP. My nic wont work @ 40 MHz, but that's fine. If I use the PLL, I have big problems. I set it for 160 FSB PLL/16 30/60. I can boot, and load Win2K, but just before the Win2K desktop loads, I'll crash back to the BIOS every time. I tried F9 and F9D BIOS, also tried 2 different video cards. I keep hearing it works, but I cant get it to work on mine!
Why??
MadMan007
01-12-02, 12:27 AM
Ol'man:I am going to stay with the ST6.
Good for you.
BTW: ol'man seems to love spreading rumors about mobo's. Remember the whole "TUSL2-C has a Vtt of 1.475V when it should be 1.2V" or whatever the voltages were? Pure unsubstantiated rumor later proven wrong. Ol'man has a lot to contribute sometimes, but other times he just goes off, especially when it comes to saying "The ST6 is teh bestest mobo evar and yours is teh suck!!"
:burn:
oldfart
01-12-02, 06:36 AM
Celemine1Gig, what PLL settiings are you using to do that?
Celemine1Gig
01-12-02, 09:47 AM
I think it was pll16 at 180 MHz FSB and pll24 at 200 MHz!
I also had a lot of lockups due to my memory before, but now I got new RAM (MCI PC150 CL2) and it runs fine at these speeds with the divider enabled!
BTW, if you set the divider to enabled, your memory is stressed more than without the divider. With my old RAM, I could run 166 MHz FSB when the divider was disabled and the PCI speed was 41 MHz!! But when I enabled he divider pll16 in that case, to obtain a PCI speed of 31 MHz, the system always froze on the first windows screen! Now with my new RAM, I have no problems with the dividers!
oldfart
01-12-02, 10:38 AM
Hmmm....interesting. Here is how mine goes:
160 FSB, normal, 40 PCI 80 AGP I can boot and run just fine.
160 FSB, PLL/16 30 PCI 60 AGP, I'll crash back to the BIOS just as the Windows desktop starts to load.
In all cases, ram timing is as slow as possible, 3-3-3 7,9.
Does that sound like what you saw with your setup?
Celemine1Gig
01-12-02, 10:56 AM
oldfart it seems that you need new RAM
I would have to also wonder if it isnt your ram....what type and speed of ram are you using....cause that could be the block in the road.......:(
oldfart
01-12-02, 01:10 PM
Not buying new ram. My ram is Crucial PC133 cas2. I cant see investing in new SDRAM. Next time I buy ram, it will be DDR or RDRAM.
Why is it my ram is good enough for 160 FSB when I don't use the PLL, but is not whwn I do? This same ram also ran 160 FSB in the CUSL2.
Isn't the ram speed 160 either way?
Oldfart....Have you tried upping the DIMM voltage? Sometimes it can have a positive effect, it did the other morning when I was experimenting with my P3 1000EB....Definatly stopped my Sandra mem benchmark from crashing....
Remember...You can also up the AGP voltage just in case yourr AGP card's having trouble (although i've got no idea why it would!)....Do this at your own risk though!
Celemine1Gig
01-12-02, 02:33 PM
The divider stresses RAm and northbridge! That's why you can't get your board stable at 160 MHz!!!! As I said, you need new RAM, perhaps PC150 or PC166 and a better cooler on the northbridge.;)
oldfart
01-12-02, 04:55 PM
Thanks for the advice. Eh, Ill just be happy with 152 FSB, 1.44 GHz. I'm not going to get new Ram, especially with the prices these days.
Celemine1Gig
01-12-02, 07:48 PM
Yes, you're right, memory's become pretty expensive again! I was lucky enough to get me some RAM one day before the prices climbed!!:)
Now I've got 512MB of this great RAM, but I only need 256MB! The best thing is, that I'll test both sticks, keep the better one and sell the other one, for more than I paid for it;) ! That's a pretty cool deal!
tainice
01-13-02, 12:03 AM
i only wish i got a XET to test out my P1.26:) Damn that atacom, i have to wait 2~3 weeks b4 i get my XET-C..what a ****ty situation i got myself into..Anyway, so 1.26 is not a great chip for ocing:(, but i still like it tho! if i can manage to hit 160+ fsb on this chippy..uh..some XP @sses are gonna be kicked:D And nice achievement!! i can Intel's time has come..Northwood and Tualatin, what a great combination! go;)
The 1.26 will overclock to about 1.45 gig!!! I woulden't say that's a poor overclocker at all! And with 512KB cache, it's peformance kicks butt!
I doubt you'll hit 160 mhz FSB though....Although you could be lucky!:D
Celemine1Gig
01-13-02, 06:56 AM
I saw a P3 1,26GHz Server chip running at 1615MHz!!! And that was just with aircooling, so you could really get it that high, if you're lucky and if you got very good RAm and good cooling!
BTW I just finished my OCZ Dominator project. I added an 5mm copper plate to the ominators bottom, that was before 3mm sanded down! I'm curious to see the results. I'll be testing it in a few hours!
Celemine1Gig
01-13-02, 08:53 AM
It seems to work quite well. Better then my old Alpha Pal6035 in fact!
muddocktor
01-13-02, 03:14 PM
I've had my P3 1.26S proc up to 1493/157 fsb with the stock hsf on it so far, running 1.5 volts vcore with no problems. Im presently getting it going in a temporary case while I mod the case it will be running in for the pelt/watercool setup I have planned for it. Overall, I'm satisfied with both the proc and the XET board. I'm going to let it do some Folding@Home while I get it's new home ready.:D
oldfart
01-13-02, 03:47 PM
muddocktor, couple questions if you dont mind...
Are you using PLL/16 or normal? If you are running normal, any of your PCI devices complaining about 39+ MHz PCI?
What kind of ram are you using and what timings are stable @ 157 FSB?
muddocktor
01-13-02, 09:41 PM
I'm using the PLL16 setting and presently running it at Cas3 because I was trying to see how high I could go, fsb speed wise. I did have it running at 222,5/7 timings before that and would run well as far as I could tell; no problems with Folding@Home running. I'm presently using 512 MB Crucial PC133 Cas2 ram(2X256 sticks). I think that I might have to find some faster ram after I get this thing running with the pelt/watercool setup I'm presently putting together for it though. These Crucial ram sticks are using micron chips, BTW. I've read that they have been using other brand chips in some of their sticks of ram lately.
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