Baldur's Gate: Let's do it

[rainless]

...because NWN2 just BLOWS.

NWN2 is like a bunch of 12 year olds dressing up for a Sci-fi/Fantasy convention.

So I went and installed the REAL THING.

Who's with me for some epic (and free!) co-op?

[Jayws]

*sigh*... why co-op with people when you can pop their heads off in CoD4 :\

[Msi.]

Rainless count me in!

Are you playing the first with or without the expansion? I have my old cd's and will dig up the patch's to make sure we run the same versions then you just need to give my a time and an IP Address. You can be the host just make sure your character doesnt die :D

I am on Standard Eastern time and normally finish work at 4:00 p.m. and get home around 5:00 - 5:45

Edit:

I feel like playing a Cleric!

[rainless]

Rainless count me in!

Are you playing the first with or without the expansion? I have my old cd's and will dig up the patch's to make sure we run the same versions then you just need to give my a time and an IP Address. You can be the host just make sure your character doesnt die :D

I am on Standard Eastern time and normally finish work at 4:00 p.m. and get home around 5:00 - 5:45

Edit:

I feel like playing a Cleric!

I've got a Fighter/Mage... So I guess I'll be the "Man" in the relationship. :)

I don't need to download any special patch do I?

I've got the game and the expansion

Baldur's Gate(tm)
Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast(tm)
Release Version 1.3.5521

[sulretal]

...because NWN2 just BLOWS.

NWN2 is like a bunch of 12 year olds dressing up for a Sci-fi/Fantasy convention.

So I went and installed the REAL THING.

Who's with me for some epic (and free!) co-op?



Dude I'm so in!!!

When/where?

I work till 9 pm EST tonight, after that I'm free. Gotta reinstall it though.

Maybe we can play through BG + Exp, then move onto BG2 + exp.

Let me know I've been trying to find people to do this somewhat regularly (once or twice every two weeks at least).

[petteyg359]

I don't own the original, just BG2 + expansion. Would love to do a multiplayer game without a bunch of hackers and crap. I do have a GameTap subscription, though, I think they have BG on there... anyway, give me an IP and a time.

[Msi.]

I guess rainless can update his first post as we additional information.

I am at work at the moment and will be selling some ram tonight so it may not be tonight that we start so dont worry about it for those interested, I will search for what the highest patch was for baldures gate + expansion and post links to it.

[odin8yoshi]

I've been craving some BG2 goodness for a while now...have finished the entire series more times than I can count now with various mods etc...let me know if anyone is up for some BG2+ ToB. Best game ever made, IMHO.

Cheers,
odin

[Msi.]

Best game ever made, IMHO.

Black Ilse

A company that knows how to rock the boat when it came to rpg's, they had some bad scores eventually and they sank like a ship with Interplay though your indeed right. I love them it was about detail the game had lots of content and was overall really well made. You see and feel a diffrence with when you play it then and when you play nwn which if I recal black ilse had nothing to do with.

But im off topic :D

Your welcome to join any time, I am sure a BG2 Post will come up some time if this gets going.

[OldSkool]

If I can get it soon, count me in! I'd love to experience, first hand, the great Rainless. (I swear, I didn't laugh while typing that ;))

[rainless]

If I can get it soon, count me in! I'd love to experience, first hand, the great Rainless. (I swear, I didn't laugh while typing that ;))

Hahahahaha! :)

Well I'll dig around and see how this whole thing works. I'm busy as hell today... but if anybody has the game lying around and wants to help me test the internet thing and maybe figure out what ports need to be forwarded and whatnot, that would be appreciated.

We can do a "trial connection."

[petteyg359]

Baldur's Gate / Tales of the Sword Coast:
Latest patch: BG (http://downloads.bioware.com/baldursgate1/bg114315.exe) / TotSC (http://downloads.bioware.com/baldursgate1/BGTalesUS5512.exe)
DirectX 8+ patch: BG (http://downloads.bioware.com/baldursgate1/BG1DX8English.exe) / TotSC (http://downloads.bioware.com/baldursgate1/BGTalesDX8English.exe)
Baldur's Gate II / Throne of Bhaal:
Latest patch: BG2 (http://downloads.bioware.com/baldursgate2/Baldur%27sGateII-ShadowsofAmnPatchENGLISH.exe) / ToB (http://downloads.bioware.com/baldursgate2/BGII-ThroneofBhaal_Patch_26498_ENGLISH.exe)

If you need the European version of the patches, they're all at Bioware (http://www.bioware.com).

[Msi.]

I can probably help you with that, I to have some things to do today but when I get home I will install the game find the patchs.

If I recal one of the first things to do is disable your windows firewall or add the game to the exception list or it wont allow othere's to connect (it does that for netstorm when I used to play) next is probably DMZ so outside computers can reach you. Though I am no network security guru :D


Edit Pette beat me to it lol.
rainless can you toss that at your first post so people dont need to dig around to much :D

[odin8yoshi]

I got excited and am now setting up bg1/2/expansions on my desktop (linux only, should be fine in Wine however). I HIGHLY suggest anyone wanting to play use Hamachi for an easy VPN solution instead of trying to forward the appropriate ports...I know bg2 has some serious issues running behind NAT, even with what should be an appropriate setup. https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/list.asp Very simple to use, I've played many tcp/ip BG2 games this way.

odin

[petteyg359]

I can probably help you with that, I to have some things to do today but when I get home I will install the game find the patchs.

If I recal one of the first things to do is disable your windows firewall or add the game to the exception list or it wont allow othere's to connect (it does that for netstorm when I used to play) next is probably DMZ so outside computers can reach you. Though I am no network security guru :D


Edit Pette beat me to it lol.
rainless can you toss that at your first post so people dont need to dig around to much :D

No, no, no, and no. NEVER EVER use DMZ if there are Windows systems behind that router. Just forward the appropriate ports. Again, Bioware's website is a good resource here :) USE IT!

1.02: [BG/BGII] - Settings for your hardware router/firewall: (Back to Top)

Ensure that port numbers 2300-2400 and 6073 are set up on the server for both "inbound" and "outbound" transfers on both "TCP" and "UDP" protocols

Google also suggests ports 1470, 15000 and 47624-49672. So,

1470
2300-2400
6073
15000
47624-49672

I can set up a Teamspeak server if wanted, also.

[jokers_greg]

No, no, no, and no. NEVER EVER use DMZ if there are Windows systems behind that router. Just forward the appropriate ports. Again, Bioware's website is a good resource here :) USE IT!


because if you do, enjoy the reformat.

[Msi.]

Hahaha!
I better check up my network when I get home though I think it's off at the moment ever since the last router reset. It's good to know though, I think I will spend more time in the forum's Network area now rather then the game area :P

Teamspeak would be cool.

[rainless]

I got excited and am now setting up bg1/2/expansions on my desktop (linux only, should be fine in Wine however). I HIGHLY suggest anyone wanting to play use Hamachi for an easy VPN solution instead of trying to forward the appropriate ports...I know bg2 has some serious issues running behind NAT, even with what should be an appropriate setup. https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/list.asp Very simple to use, I've played many tcp/ip BG2 games this way.

odin

Downloaded it. No idea what it does yet... but I have it! :)

[odin8yoshi]

It creates a VPN, a sort of virtual private network. Think of it as a virtual LAN tunneled over the internet, after you join/create a hamachi network you are then connected via VPN to the other users in that network..perfect for games so you dont have to do any port forwarding, just connect in game via your Hamachi IP. I suggest creating a network just for us with a password so everyone can join and not worry about port forwarding. I can probably play soon, though I havn't even decided what character to play..that can take a day in itself... doh'.

odin

[sulretal]

For those who want to play but only have BG2,

BG1 isn't that long. The game is easily beatable within 20 hours if we are just sticking to getting the important loot from around sword coast(bracers of archery two maps west of Nashkel, Long sword +2, Gauntlets of weapon expertise from firewine bridge, etc) + story line.


I'd be either a fighter/thief or a druid.

[petteyg359]

I've always preferred to be thief/mage :)

Anyway, feel free to connect to Hamachi network Baldur's OCF. Password is nohacks.

[rainless]

I've always preferred to be thief/mage :)

Anyway, feel free to connect to Hamachi network Baldur's OCF. Password is nohacks.

We are currently connected. Let me know when you want to try it.

EDIT: What would "Host address" be? Just my IP address? Or the address of the Hamachi thing?

[petteyg359]

Host address in game or in Hamachi? If in game it would be the IP Hamachi gave you, I think.

[odin8yoshi]

Whoever's hosting (Rainless, I assume) will start the TCP/IP game as usual with hamachi running and everyone else will connect to his Hamachi IP (5.x.x.x). I connected and just started working on getting BG running in wine, shouldn't take too long.

odin

[Supertrucker]

Ok, this sounds like too much fun, if you guys end up beating bg1 and decide to do bg2, i might have to get in on this. Ive never played either but im pretty sure i own #2.

[shadin]

Gah, can't find my original Baldur's Gate discs. I'll keep digging around, otherwise I have Baldur's Gate 2 here on my desk. I'm always up for some co-op RPG ackshun.

[rainless]

SUCCESS!

PeteyG and I just finished playing a solid hour or two.

We could probably clear out the game in a weekend if it's only 20 hours. Then...

ON TO BG2!

[Msi.]

:( because I couldent show up.
:D because my boss called and I got a raise.

[petteyg359]

I may wait for the BG2 party... BG1 hurts my eyes and causes a headache. And I am extremely biased against hideously low resolutions.

[OldSkool]

:( because I couldent show up.
:D because my boss called and I got a raise.

Gratz on the raise :thup:

[odin8yoshi]

Either of you around to test a game with me? Not sure if the multiplayer will work with wine for me or not.

[SteveLord]

I think I tossed the originals. I still have the BG2 + expansion that I tried playing like 20 times and always fell out of it cuz of newer games. But it really liked it and its still a pain in my side since I never played it more.

Are you using Hamachi?????

And how can you get through BG1 in 20 hours? What about the fun side quests?????? BG2 has supposedly over 200hours of play if you do side quests.

[rainless]

I would say I'd be willing to go straight for two... but I've kinda got limited HD space. I'll try and hurry up and finish 1 then we can do 2.

[sulretal]

Wait, so when or where are we meeting online for this?

And yes, Bg1 can be beaten easily within 20 hours - with a solo fighter/thief/mage.

[petteyg359]

odin, make sure you're signed in on hamachi and send me a chat

[rainless]

i'm signed in too odin

[Msi.]

I am finishing the install and patching up now

[odin8yoshi]

Yeah i've been connected to the hamachi network for a while, don't believe the linux hamachi client has chat support though. I'm still not sure rather or not BG1 running in wine will cooperate with tcp/ip play, but at worst ill run xp on another system to play. Ol' lady is calling me to bed but tomorrow I'll be available to play, maybe we can schedule atleast a once a week game night? odin8yoshi on AIM if anyone wants to reach me.

odin

[sulretal]

For all those who would be interested in BG1 if it wasn't for the horrible resolution(640x480).

http://www.gibberlings3.net/widescreen/

It's meant for widescreen but can be changed to any resolution (I use it for 1024 x768 for example).

[petteyg359]

Not possible to modify the GameTap version.

[rainless]

Not possible to modify the GameTap version.

That sucks.

[Firey_chasm]

I dont have BG1 (like many others it seems)

but count me in for BG2(unsure if I have the expansions or not) or NWN1+both expansions :D (NWN2 count me out though, it lost its magic :( )

[Msi.]

Well we know it works for some, I think I just need to work out the kinks, it seemd to be messing up on my last night with the black screen and hanging when entering multiplayer games. I will uninstall and re-install the "recommended" and not the "custom" maybe that will make make a diffrence.

[odin8yoshi]

Do a custom install with ALL the components installed onto hd, MSI. Having to switch disc / extra loading time during multiplayer slows everyone down and really kills it. Were you hanging up only during a multiplayer game? Try single player. Also, give everyone a ping on hamachi (right click name in list, ping) and make sure thats working alright. I'll be around most the day if you want to try again.

odin

[rainless]

Well we know it works for some, I think I just need to work out the kinks, it seemd to be messing up on my last night with the black screen and hanging when entering multiplayer games. I will uninstall and re-install the "recommended" and not the "custom" maybe that will make make a diffrence.

Could be your anti-virus or firewall... all I had to do was accept the connection in Panda and it worked fine.

Also, some cable modems actually have presets for it. (I was looking at the config page for my friend's modem and there was an item in there for Baldur's Gate in the firewall section!)

[odin8yoshi]

What classes did you guys play last night and what levels did you get to? Trying to decide between making a bard or a fighter to be dualed to thief so I can catch up a bit.

[rainless]

What classes did you guys play last night and what levels did you get to? Trying to decide between making a bard or a fighter to be dualed to thief so I can catch up a bit.

We've already got thieves covered. We've got a Fighter/thief and a mage/thief. So we could use a bard or something different.

I can't BELIEVE that I didn't play this game for YEARS because I thought I'd lost my "Tales of the Sword Coast" cd... only to find out it was included in the other 3!

Sigh... It isn't as bad as losing Throne of Bhaal would've been...

[Msi.]

Do a custom install with ALL the components installed onto hd, MSI.

That's what I did last night.

Having to switch disc / extra loading time during multiplayer slows everyone down and really kills it.

Ya thats how I payed though the first time, every zone was asking for a diffrent cd.


Were you hanging up only during a multiplayer game? Try single player.

I tried single player and it worked fine, there was some graphic abnormalities, in the sense that some of the textures where not all there, example the clock for pausing and resuming the game was fine but the background showing day and night was black. It would hang when I entered in someones IP address AFTER connecting.

Windows firewall was disactivated.
I am not currently using an Antivirus as its a fresh windows install.
I could verify the port's on my router and re-map the ports.
I pinged someone on hamachi and got response at 73 ms, and timed out once after about a minute then came right back.

I am useing the old old cd's I have all 6 cd's (not dvd's) I know a freind that has a copy I will contact him today and see if I cant get it off of him somehow. I doubt it is my cd's as I have used it befor and it was working fine, ran though the game without any issues... I should really start doing iso back up's of my older games though :S

Looks like veryone can stealth so far :D

If I get this working I will be able to HEEEEEEAAAAAAAAL you people and ninja all the plate :P

[sulretal]

That's what I did last night.



Ya thats how I payed though the first time, every zone was asking for a diffrent cd.




I tried single player and it worked fine, there was some graphic abnormalities, in the sense that some of the textures where not all there, example the clock for pausing and resuming the game was fine but the background showing day and night was black. It would hang when I entered in someones IP address AFTER connecting.

Windows firewall was disactivated.
I am not currently using an Antivirus as its a fresh windows install.
I could verify the port's on my router and re-map the ports.
I pinged someone on hamachi and got response at 73 ms, and timed out once after about a minute then came right back.

I am useing the old old cd's I have all 6 cd's (not dvd's) I know a freind that has a copy I will contact him today and see if I cant get it off of him somehow. I doubt it is my cd's as I have used it befor and it was working fine, ran though the game without any issues... I should really start doing iso back up's of my older games though :S

Looks like veryone can stealth so far :D

If I get this working I will be able to HEEEEEEAAAAAAAAL you people and ninja all the plate :P

This game is extremely easy on any difficulty if we have two types of parties

All archery - seriously bows in BG1 are so overpowered.
Stealth - stab and run, run out of map, stealth and repeat.

[rainless]

Just finished installing Baldur's Gate II on my main rig (only room for one or the other on my laptop... which is where I prefer to play old games). I shut it down on the opening movie because I *knew* they were about to give something away...

[petteyg359]

Ventrilo up @ omega359.info
Default port, password nohacks

[SteveLord]

I'll wait for when a party is to be created in BG2. Also, is it possible to play fine without the NPCs?

A nice balanced group would be fun. As opposed to suffering from WoW-syndrome...ya know...something actually true RPG/fantasty-like.

[rainless]

I'll wait for when a party is to be created in BG2. Also, is it possible to play fine without the NPCs?

A nice balanced group would be fun. As opposed to suffering from WoW-syndrome...ya know...something actually true RPG/fantasty-like.


You mean without the people in the towns and stuff? There wouldn't really BE a game without them... this isn't diablo.

[odin8yoshi]

He means without the non-player created characters, ie jaheira, minsc, and so forth. It's 100% possible to play without them, single player or multiplayer. Sulretal and I just finished playing a couple hours without any NPC's. 1 bard and 1 thief/cleric is a little on the rough side.

[Msi.]

All archery - seriously bows in BG1 are so overpowered.
Stealth - stab and run, run out of map, stealth and repeat.

works even better when you get the posion dagger :D

[rainless]

He means without the non-player created characters, ie jaheira, minsc, and so forth. It's 100% possible to play without them, single player or multiplayer. Sulretal and I just finished playing a couple hours without any NPC's. 1 bard and 1 thief/cleric is a little on the rough side.

Wish I had known you guys were playing. I was right here...

[sulretal]

Wish I had known you guys were playing. I was right here...

Sorry, maybe we should all get some contact info so we can see when eachother are online, maybe if we're online and could be up for some gaming, we could all just sign onto hamachi?

But yea thief/cleric and bard was hella rough.

[Msi.]

Agreed, we should though I have just discovered that windows vista ultimate 64bit + baldur's gate dont mix, many people are getting the same issue and some suggest simply dual booting uh!.

[petteyg359]

Sorry, maybe we should all get some contact info so we can see when eachother are online, maybe if we're online and could be up for some gaming, we could all just sign onto hamachi?

But yea thief/cleric and bard was hella rough.

Look in your Hamachi window :) People online have a green star next to their name. Right click on the line that says "Baldur's OCF" and select open chat window, and it should start flashing in the taskbar of anybody who is online at the time.

[rainless]

Look in your Hamachi window :) People online have a green star next to their name. Right click on the line that says "Baldur's OCF" and select open chat window, and it should start flashing in the taskbar of anybody who is online at the time.

That's only if they have it running :)

I'll try to keep it up next time I'm up for a game.

But I'm on OCF like ALL the time. If you guys post: "We're playing now..."

...I'd probably see it within 5 mins. ;)

[petteyg359]

Or see who's on Ventrilo :)

[sulretal]

Anyone/everyone down for a game after 9 pm on sunday night?

[SteveLord]

Anyone/everyone down for a game after 9 pm on sunday night?

BG1 or BG2?

[sulretal]

BG1 or BG2?

I only have BG1 installed right now, but I guess it's whatever the majority would want to play.

[odin8yoshi]

The way the saving and such works we need to keep playing with the same host/save game or no one will get anywhere.

[sulretal]

The way the saving and such works we need to keep playing with the same host/save game or no one will get anywhere.

Who ever is host for the said time slot can take the save folder and upload it. The file is usually really small.

[petteyg359]

For all those who would be interested in BG1 if it wasn't for the horrible resolution(640x480).

http://www.gibberlings3.net/widescreen/

It's meant for widescreen but can be changed to any resolution (I use it for 1024 x768 for example).

The widescreen mod is INCOMPATIBLE with the DX7/8 patch. If you want the better resolution, you won't be able to do multiplayer. If you want to do multiplayer, you can't have high resolution.

[sulretal]

Anyone down for some BG1? Tonight (sunday night)

[rainless]

Anyone down for some BG1? Tonight (sunday night)

I'm actually trying to fly through BG1 so that we can all hook up on BG2.

The old school graphics are starting to get to me. :p

I need some LIGHTS and COLORS!

[Kampfzerstorer]

I can't believe you don't like Nwn2...

[SteveLord]

NWN2 I can understand people not liking.

NWN1 and its expansions rocked.

[rainless]

I can't believe you don't like Nwn2...

I don't like grown men and women running around in Harry potter outfits either.

It's kind of the same thing. :shrug:

[sulretal]

Damn, doesn't seem like anyone wants to play it anymore. :(

(goes back to playing single player :( )

[rainless]

Damn, doesn't seem like anyone wants to play it anymore. :(

(goes back to playing single player :( )

BG1 is sort of a tiring game to play through... Not because it sucks... but because it's OLD. And not in the cute, Warcraft III-style of old... But more like the Warcraft 1 kind of old.

Going through the mines in Nashkel was TORTURE for me. There's a reason why they don't do stuff like that anymore.

I'd absolutely lose my mind if I had to do that in multi.

I really want to hurry and get to Baldur's Gate II.

I've had these games for years... and it's about damned time I got on top of them.

[sulretal]

BG1 is sort of a tiring game to play through... Not because it sucks... but because it's OLD. And not in the cute, Warcraft III-style of old... But more like the Warcraft 1 kind of old.

Going through the mines in Nashkel was TORTURE for me. There's a reason why they don't do stuff like that anymore.

I'd absolutely lose my mind if I had to do that in multi.

I really want to hurry and get to Baldur's Gate II.

I've had these games for years... and it's about damned time I got on top of them.


Hmm well I just beat baldur's gate 1 with a solo fighter/mage/thief, sub 4 hours. I'll have to install bg2 now and try playing that, get used to the story and all.

[SteveLord]

I installed BG2 and Throne of Bhaal lastnight. My old Collector's Edition which I have no idea what came with it other than maybe a cloth map =)

[rainless]

I installed BG2 and Throne of Bhaal lastnight. My old Collector's Edition which I have no idea what came with it other than maybe a cloth map =)

Yeah I installed that last week but haven't played it yet.

@sultreal - Four hours is pretty good. I'm just trying to get all the swords and bracers I want. If I can beat it in a day, then we'll all be ready to jump into BG2.

[sulretal]

:(

[SteveLord]

I forget...can you take your BG1 characters into BG2?

[jstutman]

Question, will the gametap versions connect to the non gametap versions? I see its on gametap but I dont have the game unless I can use gametap.

So I just did the .99 month and none of the games will run on X64. How stupid

[petteyg359]

I forget...can you take your BG1 characters into BG2?

Yes.

Question, will the gametap versions connect to the non gametap versions? I see its on gametap but I dont have the game unless I can use gametap.

Yes.

[jstutman]

Gametap version will not allow the import of characters, how would this affect playing with everyone here?

[petteyg359]

Just means you can't import a BG1 character into BG2, nothing else.

[sulretal]

Anyone want to get together a bg2 game then soon?

[SteveLord]

I'm up for starting a fresh party in BG2. Thinkin straight up Cleric or Invoker Mage. (I've always loved magic missiles)

[petteyg359]

Cleric/Mage/Thief ftw :) But I don't recall if I had any mods installed when I did that.

[David]

I'd play, but I keep rather different hours from most folk.

Currently just finished BG and playing BG2 having imported my Fighter. Would be tempted to go Thief/Mage or Mage/Cleric for a multiplayer game.

[SteveLord]

Starting BG2 off WITHOUT players that had 8 different enchantments and didnt cause monsters to gib just by walking by them would be kinda nice :rolleyes:

[sulretal]

Been playing BG2, started with a monk - they're definitely hard to cope with in the earlier stages of SoA(still not a great AC, not many great bonuses arive yet). Just doing as many sidequests as I can before I attempt to rescue imoen from the cowled wizard keep. Not sure if it was a good idea though, fighting mind flayers and beholders at level 14 and below (my party) is really quite difficult and requires many reloads.


Definitely a fun challenge.

[SteveLord]

Anyone else? Rainless? Bueller?

[rainless]

Anyone else? Rainless? Bueller?

Sorry, I was in the hospital.

And get this:

I don't know WHAT you guys that finished the first Baldur's Gate in like a day did... but I was in the hospital for a WEEK... with absolutely nothing to do but play Baldur's Gate (no internet) and I STILL haven't finished it yet.

Maybe I didn't necessarily have to go through Cloakwood or something?

Maybe if I had went straight to Baldur's gate the game would be over by now?

I don't know... but I'm in the Cloakwood mines now. There isn't anywhere else to go on the map (at least nowhere else interesting.) So I would imagine all the BIG STUFF is going to go down in Baldur's Gate (once I'm done with the mine.)

I also didn't know you could export your character from BG into BG2... that's pretty damned cool. Although my character is kind of a chump and I'd rather make somebody a little tougher this time around. (He's a Fighter/Mage with like 19 HP and 13 strength... and not that many damned spells but he's one HELL of an archer.)

I should be joining you by the weekend Steve. :beer:

[Austin126]

Ok, i just got done finding bg2, are u guys still up for playing it, ummm i joined the hamachi server Baldur's OCF, nohacks and no on is one, ummm i really want to play, so if anyone wants to play, me and my bro would be happy to join u guys:attn:

[Stratus_ss]

I am down for IceWind Dale series... and BG2 if I can find my damn disks somewhere, I know I still have them
The original NWN would be sweet too

[Austin126]

Ok, well umm, do u have an aim, because i would need to talk to you to find out how to set everything up, tell me if you find your discs..:clap: