ATTN: Duron 1.0GHz-1.2GHz owners - Survey

[SickBoy]

Hey Everyone -

I'm looking for some feedback from the "Morgan" owners out there. The CPU Database is a little thin right now so maybe I can collect some info in here. I've been looking to play around with a Morgan for a while now but no one seems to be wanting to talk about them.

1. Did you unlock your CPU? If yes, what method? Pencil? Conductive ink? or does it require AthlonXP-esque unlocking procedures?

2. List your motherboard and, if applicable, revision

3. List your overclock, including FSB, Core voltage, multiplier, DDR voltage (if applicable), VIO voltage, Heatsink/Fan used, any other critical data.

4. CPU Stepping Code

5. Idle/Load temps

6. Any OS/Software related benefits, issues, problems, etc.

THANKS!!!

SB

[SickBoy]

whack

[SickBoy]

Come on, somebody's gotta have a Morgan.....

[TripleH]

I have a morgan cored duron 1ghz and it performs quite nicely, I havent overclocked it at all so I couldn't say how well they o/c. They will unlock the same way a tbird unlocks

[Kendle666]

hey Sickboy,
I have a Duron 1Ghz @1.2Ghz (9x133) on an ABIT KG7(non-raid) running win 98se ....................runs stable @ 1.2 ghz...............ya can unlock the Morgans just like the old Durons with a pencil:D ......................




Duron 1Ghz @1.2Ghz (9x133) w/ Alpha Pal 8045 HS
512 micron pc2100
Abit KG7
Palit 32meg G2 mx o/c 230/200
40 gig WD 7200
20 gig Maxtor 5400

[SickBoy]

Cool.... if more could post that would be great.....

[eobard]

I expect to be buying myself a Morgan 1g or 1.1g in about 2 months but if you really can't wait you could spot me the money until then. You, just so I could be helpful. :D

[SickBoy]

Originally posted by Kendle666
hey Sickboy,
I have a Duron 1Ghz @1.2Ghz (9x133) on an ABIT KG7(non-raid) running win 98se ....................runs stable @ 1.2 ghz...............ya can unlock the Morgans just like the old Durons with a pencil:D ......................

Duron 1Ghz @1.2Ghz (9x133) w/ Alpha Pal 8045 HS
512 micron pc2100
Abit KG7
Palit 32meg G2 mx o/c 230/200
40 gig WD 7200
20 gig Maxtor 5400

What voltages do you have your chip set to?

[Kendle666]

heh..........oops ...................I'm running @ 1.7 volts :D ..............stock for this chip is 1.75 ...................no other voltage changes ...............running memory and pci voltage at stock

[mikester]

a little OT but...

is a duron morgan core 1ghz worth 80$ CDN? is it a worthy upgrade from my current system (in sig)? how much cache does it have and is it .13 micron?

i dont know much 'bout AMD, so bear with me...:)

[SickBoy]

Originally posted by mikester
a little OT but...

is a duron morgan core 1ghz worth 80$ CDN? is it a worthy upgrade from my current system (in sig)? how much cache does it have and is it .13 micron?

i dont know much 'bout AMD, so bear with me...:)

Don't know how much CDN $ is in US $ but the 1 GHz Durons are available at $46 USD right now. (plus shipping, off Pricewatch)

From a P3 700, you'll probably notice a boost in speed, especially if you go DDR instead of SDR. Durons are typically 95-105% of P3 performance at equal clockspeeds, for pre-Tualatin P3's.

You'll also probably get 1.2-1.3 GHz out of it as well.

So it's a pretty good budget upgrade from a P3 700.

[eobard]

Originally posted by mikester
a little OT but...

is a duron morgan core 1ghz worth 80$ CDN? is it a worthy upgrade from my current system (in sig)? how much cache does it have and is it .13 micron?

i dont know much 'bout AMD, so bear with me...:)

Where in Canada can you get a 1g Morgan for $80???? The best I've seen is $94, and I've been looking.

[gotey]

I have a "Morgan" Duron 1g @1.2

1)I used a defogger kit on it. it unlocks just like the spitfire durons, just 5 bridges instead of 4.

2) I have an FIC AZ-11E mobo with the lastest Bios to recognize the morgan cores

3) I have my duron at 12x100 core voltage is 1.8 (default is 1.75) Vantec cck-6035

4) i forgot to write it down!

5) Idle 27c Load 40c

6) no problems at all, runs like a scalded cat!

[Angry]

Im going to build this system soon. Hopeing to hit 1.4 with it.

Second System:
CPU: 1.2ghz Duron (Morgan Cored)
Motherboard: KT7A
HDD(s): 2x20gig 7200rpm ATA 100
Videocard: Geforce3 ti 200 64DDR OR Regular Geforce 3 depending on price..
Soundcard: Creative Audigy Xgamer
Memory: 512meg PC150 (2x256) SDram
CD-Rom(s): 12x DVD rom, 52x Creative CD-Rom
PowerSupply: 300watt ATX
OS: Windows 2000,Windows Me

[mikester]

well actually the cpu is used from a guy around the corner from me, he doesnt overclock since hes morally opposed to the thought of it...

i just thought it was a good bargain, that i could either put it to use or sell it for more.:)

[nicksoti]

Morgan 1G@1260(9x140), 1.85V, case temp 34 Celsius, idle cpu temp 48, gigabyte 7VTXE, ddr 266 Samsung, used defogger kit to change multiplier as 7VTXE doesn't allow mult. change, doesn't need glue like AthlonXP, others same with Xp except voltage mod I believe (check my post about voltage-mod strange discovery I made!!).

[eobard]

Can everyone who's answered that they do have a Morgan answer me this: Is the packaging the same as the Spitfire core or does it have the new organic shell like the Athalon XP?

[Ozzman]

so am i to beleave all the mobos that can handle a duron on the spitfire core can handle the morgon cores?

[gotey]

eobard: yes the packaging is the same as the original durons, its a ceramic thingie

Ozzman: If the mobo manufacturer doesn`t put out a bios upgrade so the bios will recognize the morgan core, then no, you cannot use the morgan core duron. Most have posted new bios updates, some have not

[eobard]

Thanks.

[Ozzman]

ok then the morgon core is on 1ghz and up right? the 950 and 900 are still on the spitfire core right??

[NeoMoses]

Yeah, I think the Morgan core is used from 1 GHz and higher. I know my 900 was a spitfire.

[Ozzman]

ok check this out

http://www.ecs.com.tw/support/faq/table-k7.htm

it says the k7vza can handle a morgan 1.1 BUT i dont see anything like that in the newest bios update.. but even if it can support it will it post 1.1 or lower??

[Kendle666]

Ozz..............if itwill handle 12+ mutliplier, it will handle any morgan out there...............and will ID it.

[Ozzman]

o **** as of 15th this board i have can handle almost any new AMD out not bad for a 70 buck mobo a ;) only prob is i cant OC ahh its kiling me.. o well i will soon have a iwill kk266+ :D

[klosters64a]

A Duron 850 at stock wipes the floor with a P3EB 733, also at stock. You'd think that the P3EB would have an advantage with its 133 Mhz FSB. It doesn't.

[SickBoy]

No doubt... and with the new SSE optimizations added in the Morgan, a 1 GHz Morgan and DDR combo completely blows away any Coppermine core P3....Now Tualatin, I'm pretty sure that stacks up a little better...

[Roman79]

1. Haven't unlocked it, mobo doesn't have multiplier options anyway

2. ECS K7S5A

3. I can get it to 110 MHz FSB using CPU Cool, but that's it. 112 MHz locks solid after 20 sec in windows. I've tried the OC BIOS but it's no different

4. ARHAA

5. 41C Idle (ambient is almost 25C)

6. I'd like to use the pencil trick on the L7 bridges to get 1.85v, but they're already closed?? As are the L6 bridges

EDIT: Thanks TripleH, got it at 1.85v now :D

[TripleH]

Sickboy- my sys is as in my rig

Roman- its the L11 that you have to fill to get 1.85 vcore, they changed since spitfire, all you have to fill in is the middle bridge of L11

[Yodums]

Originally posted by SickBoy
Hey Everyone -

I'm looking for some feedback from the "Morgan" owners out there. The CPU Database is a little thin right now so maybe I can collect some info in here. I've been looking to play around with a Morgan for a while now but no one seems to be wanting to talk about them.

1. Did you unlock your CPU? If yes, what method? Pencil? Conductive ink? or does it require AthlonXP-esque unlocking procedures?

2. List your motherboard and, if applicable, revision

3. List your overclock, including FSB, Core voltage, multiplier, DDR voltage (if applicable), VIO voltage, Heatsink/Fan used, any other critical data.

4. CPU Stepping Code

5. Idle/Load temps

6. Any OS/Software related benefits, issues, problems, etc.

THANKS!!!

SB

1gig Morgan - AHHAA stepping.

1 - Penciel unlocking.

2 - Asus A7M266 w/ 1006 bios

3 - 1290, 172fsb x 7.5, 1.9v, VIO1 of 3v, VIO of 3.6v, Water cooled. Crucial DDR Pc2100 CAS2.

[Flamed_Chip]

This might not be entirley relivant to you, but i am running an older 800 spitfire duron, and it goes at 1056 perfectly stable, win xp proffessional, vcore is at 1.9, i/o is at 2.5

[unreal]

i havent unlocked it, however im a special case, my morgan is a duron800, BUT with a morgan core, i have compared pics and numbers on the chip to a morgan and a spitfire,, everything points to a morgan except the 800, very weird, anyways im at 945 right now just to test ram on my az11e, and it recognizes my cpu as morgan also..

[CandymanCan]

1.2 Duron Morgan, AHLCA "9" 1.4ghz, 1.9v

200fsb (400mhz) Abit NF7-S, unlocked with Pencle, watercooling


178fsb Asus A7V333, unlocked with pencle, Air cooling 1.36ghz 1.9v

[Gnufsh]

Originally posted by SickBoy
Hey Everyone -

I'm looking for some feedback from the "Morgan" owners out there. The CPU Database is a little thin right now so maybe I can collect some info in here. I've been looking to play around with a Morgan for a while now but no one seems to be wanting to talk about them.

1. Did you unlock your CPU? If yes, what method? Pencil? Conductive ink? or does it require AthlonXP-esque unlocking procedures?

I've unlocked a morgan with a rear-window defogger and with the pencil trick. They use the same bridge layout as the AXP, but since they use the ceramic packaging, the "pencil trick" works, and there are no pits to fill.

2. List your motherboard and, if applicable, revision

I did my main overclocking on the ECS K7S5A. I later unlocked it and put it in a different board.


3. List your overclock, including FSB, Core voltage, multiplier, DDR voltage (if applicable), VIO voltage, Heatsink/Fan used, any other critical data.

I got up to 1.25GHz (limited by FSB options on the K7S5A) with 1.85vcore (bridges modded with defogger repair paint). I couldn't get it to post at 1.33GHz no matter what I did. HSF was an AX-7 w/ massive delta 80cm fan.

4. CPU Stepping Code
Mine was an AHHAA. My brother had a AHLCA 1GHz Duron Morgan that hit 1.4GHz or so stable.


5. Idle/Load temps

I don't remember, low 30s idle, high 30s load.


6. Any OS/Software related benefits, issues, problems, etc.

My 1GHz Duron was used for a while as part of the very small openmosix cluster I used to have. Works fine with code compilied for AXPs, including sse optimizations and such (just like it is supposed to).

I believe tere were 1.3GHz and 1.4GHz Morgans also (and an extremely samll number of 950MHz ones, but most durons under 1GHz are spitfires).

[unreal]

i have a morgan core but i dont even know what it is, stock shows i think 1200, it was suppose to be a spitfire duron 800, lol free upgrade

[Runner30]

I have a 1.3 Morgan.
1.Pencil unlocked.
2.NF7V2.
3.I remember I had it at 1.46G 205x7@1.8 ( I think).
4.I'll check when I'm home.
5.40-48C with cheap Duron stock sink.
5.Would stuck at any attempt on changing the FSB by any NVidia-like software.
REALLY benefits from high fsb at same mhz, good in games.Got 13500 (or 12500) 2k1 marks with R9800Pro .
Doesn't like multitasking, heavy office apps, hates apps involving cache/mem latencies.

Bottom line:average ocer, great bang for the buck.
I'm maybe slightly wrong but it'll beat the heck out of any P4 around 1-1.2 Ghz.In arythmetic calcs - got scores as high as P4 2.0 .

By the way , look at the "new" durons, they are good overclockers.