stupid question

[kr4yzie]

I folded a long time ago and i just started to again and with the old software it showed you everything when when you brought it up, like the finished WUs and all that. here is the one i just downloaded it dont you anything in it, is this normal?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/TheAnswer241/untitled-2.jpg

[dark bishop]

which client are you using?

[kr4yzie]

The stanford one

[kr4yzie]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/TheAnswer241/fold-1.jpg

that one

[silent bob]

you can use that one but the command line actually folds faster , netting more ppd by I think 12% ish , I could be wrong on the % but it is a fact command is faster .

I dont use that one I use SMP and GPU , so hopefully someone else can chime in to clear things up

[Sleepy_Steve]

Someone help this guy get the MPICH client up and running... I didn't have enough time to finish walking them through before i had to bail for a class.

[silent bob]

OK I found what you need

http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=5731494&postcount=2

That is a guide for what you need

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=574026

has some nice info

Oh and :welcome: to the forums

[LandShark]

with your X2 CPU, yes, you should run the SMP client instead. it will give you a lot more ppd than the standard uni-processor client.

btw, :welcome: to the forum!

[jintatsu]

:welcome: kr4yzie

[kr4yzie]

Ok i think i finaly got it lol here is what i got up now, and my cpu is at 100% so it must be using both cores, it says completed 0 out of 250000 steps. its been sitting there for a while and did'nt change, is that normal?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/TheAnswer241/fold-2.jpg

[Adak]

I'm not an AMD guy, but you should see another 1% "frame" completed, about every 20 - 30 minutes or so.

That assumes that the system is not running other programs, in the foreground OR in the background.

FAH will yield to every other program, even screensavers. So if they're running, you'll see little or no progress, at all.

It sounds like you're not using FahMon, a free monitoring utility program. Highly recommended to help you see what's going on with your folding:
http://www.fahmon.net/

[kr4yzie]

Im guessing thats normal for it to only go about 1% every 20 minutes or so?

[Adak]

Yes. 2665's are very slow to fold, compared to most WU's. My E6700 @ 2.66GHz, takes 19 minutes per frame, generally.

[kr4yzie]

If i happen to close this out and open it back up, it wont start where it left off, it will start over right?

[kr4yzie]

aright what the hell is going on now, it was going good and out of no where i get this, what should i do?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/TheAnswer241/fold-3.jpg

[Adak]

Most likely, since this rig has not folded before, your overclock is too high. FAH has higher requirements for stability than just about any benchmark program you can name.

It's possible that the work unit itself "painted itself into a corner", with the laws of physics. That is, from the starting point, it wound up in a configuration that the program recognizes, as being impossible. This is unlikely in your case, however.

Sorry for the frustration, but it's all part of the up's and down's of overclocking and folding. :)

You may completely ignore the "check for stray files" message - it's handled fine, now.

[kr4yzie]

so what should i do, make my cpu speed slower?

[Adak]

Yes, and how's your temps while folding?

[kr4yzie]

there not that high its only like 35C im at 3.2 right now. i guess ill try 3.0 idk?

[Adak]

35C is great! :)

Yes, 3.0 sounds like a good speed to try.

[Sleepy_Steve]

He probably listed his idle temps right there...

[QuietIce]

Hey guys!

I don't fold much (just paying back a little for the SETI help you've given us a couple of times!) but shouldn't there be TWO of those folding threads running for an X2? Seems like I had a thread (app) for each core - am I delirious?

there not that high its only like 35C im at 3.2 right now. i guess ill try 3.0 idk? There are a couple of things to check right off the bat but we need more info. Any one of these, if pushed too far, can cause issues with F@H (or SETI for that matter! :)) ...

clock/bus speed:
CPU multi:
RAM limit/speed (166?, 200? or maybe 333?, 400?):
HT Link multi:

as well as the X2 (Winchester or Brisbane) and your RAM's stock timings & speed ...

[Adak]

He's folding right along, now. He was clocked just a bit too high. Since he had AMD's Cool n' Quiet BIOS feature still on, it was slowing his folding way down.

He's only getting about 970 ppd according to FahMon however, despite running at 3.0 GHz., which seems low.

Is there another energy saving feature on his X2's AMD cpu that he needs to shut off?

He assures me his list of processes in Task Manager (this is a Windows box), is not running any other programs. I'm skeptical of that.

He's folding SMP, so he'll always have 4 threads, regardless of the processor (for now).

Yes, it was his idle temp. He has an aftermarket cpu cooler, so his folding temp is 42C depending on the ambient air temp.

[jonspd]

You may not have to downclock your cpu you just need to stabilize your rig :D

[LandShark]

also, try to start the client w/ -verbosity 9 flag; therefore, it will show more detail as to what really happening/happened included sometimes an error code when a machine isn't stable. so we can pinpoint the problem as to the machine or the WU itself.

[ChasR]

you can use that one but the command line actually folds faster , netting more ppd by I think 12% ish , I could be wrong on the % but it is a fact command is faster .

I dont use that one I use SMP and GPU , so hopefully someone else can chime in to clear things up

It is a common misconception that the command line client is faster than the systray client. In fact as long as the viewer remains closed in the systray version, it folds at exactly the same speed as the CLI version. If you open the viewer, the systray client will slow down due to the added overhead of running the viewer.

[harlam357]

He's only getting about 970 ppd according to FahMon however, despite running at 3.0 GHz., which seems low.

That's about right... I get ~800ppd on my X2 Brisbane @ 3.0GHz.

:welcome: to Team 32 kr4yzie! :beer: New guy stocks the fridge. :)