I want to get my FSB up UP UP!! I have an Athlon XP 1600+, how high can I get it? [Archive]

DIE

01-11-02, 05:37 AM

I have an Iwill KK266R as well as a XP 1600. For overclocking, I just went in the bios and bumped up the FSB a little bit ago, as well as my Voltage to 1.85 ( max on my motherboard). Right Now I have it at 142 x 10.5, 1500 MHZ.... I don't think it's very stable... Going to run CPU Burn today and see what happens.

FYI- Don't use the retail HS/Pad.... system was very unstable and that is why.... 43 Idle... over 50C on load... I just purchased an SK6 from newegg(Use Arctic Silver or other Paste or you will nuke your processor!!!! Ask me about it :P)... loud.... but Idle is 35 and load is 38 or 39C..... Right now at 1500... Im at 38 Idle.

DIE

heavy1

01-11-02, 06:28 AM

just from what ive seen in cpu databases i'd guess mid 150's and if your lucky 160 or more. i'll be gettin my xp1600 here soon and thats what i'm hopin to get out of it (with voltage mod of course :) )

Heavy

Arkaine23

01-11-02, 06:41 AM

See the sig

Vcore @1.85
FSB @ 152

WarriorII

01-11-02, 08:27 AM

It really depends on what you have in your system.
That's your limiting factor.
I can run 150FSB, but it is unstable. I am also locked. ( L1's are cut still, err...not connected) and my PS is a $39.00 generic junk box. Or is that Geriatric (?)

Good Luck with it AND HAVE FUN !!!!!!!!!!

:cool:

FullOfSlack

01-11-02, 12:28 PM

My XP1600+ is only stable at 1533MHz at 1.85 vcore. Even with the volt mod and 2.2 vcore it is not stable above that. I have the SK6 and at 2.2 it only got to 45C full load so heat seems not to be the problem. I can boot into windowsXP at 1600MHz but once I start running burn in tests it will reboot. I am disapointed and once the price comes down on the 1800 and 1900 I might get one.

lennytiger

01-11-02, 01:11 PM

Whats the highest speed anyone has ever got one going to???

Big_KiD

01-11-02, 05:21 PM

i had my stable at 150 fsb for a couple days.. Then i decided to attempt to unlock it.. Now my multiplier is locked at 10 instead of 10.5.. :( I am going to retry unlocking it and then if that doesn't work i am going with a new mb/procc..

cjlax5

01-11-02, 05:27 PM

is it possible to fry your motherboard by setting the fsb to high?
Also, has anyone here ruined there memory or does the system just lock before that can happen?

WarriorII

01-11-02, 06:30 PM

I really don't believe that would happen.
'Cause if it won't POST, it'll reset to "defaults" and then you get to start over.
I have NOT POSTED many many times. -LMAO

bpratt

01-11-02, 09:05 PM

Running my 1600+ at 154FSB for 1620MHZ with 1.86v. Was running 155FSB for 1635MHz but was a little unstable. It is still locked but I have done a mobo volt Mod. Plan to unlock it soon - don't think it will run much faster but I will gain more experience.

Bill :)

AntiHeiss

01-11-02, 11:23 PM

On my sig down there you see my main rig. It is an aircooled AGKGA-9 I believe. I know, I haven't seen another 9 either. I have hit 1.782GHz (11.5*155) STABLE! And thats air-cooled ladies and gentlemen.....MC462A w/68CFM Delta, and 375CFM going through the case. I usually just leave it around 1.62 or so though. I guess I was just blessed with an awesome processor. I love it.

Anyone else here have an AGKGA-9??? Wondering.

soundfx4

01-12-02, 05:40 PM

Ok, that is all cool. So I guess I will experiment a little, but I think I have set my fsb to 135 before, and it didn't boot. Anyone know why this is?

FRANK

01-12-02, 09:11 PM

Post some system information. We can't speculate on the potential without knowing what you're building on.

Motherboard, chipset, HSF, memory and peripherals.

Good Luck!

soundfx4

01-12-02, 09:27 PM

Ok, here is my system summury from the sysinfo.

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name JOHNSPC
System Manufacturer MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
System Model MS-6330
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 6 Stepping 2 AuthenticAMD ~1405 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG, 12/19/2001
SMBIOS Version 2.2
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\System32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)"
User Name JOHNSPC\John
Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 640.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 435.54 MB
Total Virtual Memory 1.41 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.01 GB
Page File Space 802.14 MB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

Also, I am wandering about something else, here is my IRQ list, it doesn't look right because IRQ 11 is being shared by 6 things. And that isn't right. Anyway, thanks!

IRQ 11 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK
IRQ 11 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller OK
IRQ 11 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller OK
IRQ 11 NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 OK
IRQ 11 Conexant SoftK56 PCI Modem(M) OK
IRQ 11 Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter(LNE100TX v4) OK
IRQ 14 Primary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 15 Secondary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 0 System timer OK
IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK
IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
IRQ 6 Standard floppy disk controller OK
IRQ 4 Communications Port (COM1) OK
IRQ 3 Communications Port (COM2) OK
IRQ 12 PS/2 Compatible Mouse OK
IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK

soundfx4

01-12-02, 10:39 PM

help

soundfx4

01-12-02, 11:42 PM

Help :(

FRANK

01-13-02, 01:13 AM

I'm sorry to say that with all of that tying you did, you still didn't provide the information that's needed to help you.

At the very least we need motherboard model along with the chipset, CPU rating and the manufacturer of the memory, Crucial, Micron PC133, PC1600 etc. The model of heat sink is an issue as well. It would also help if you could provide the wattage of the power supply, size of case etc.

Once you get into the fine tuning, the version of the BIOS comes into play.

The stepping of the CPU can also give an indication of what to expect based on others experiences.

These are all variables that will greatly influence the outcome of any overclocking attempt. Any speculation on the potential of any given CPU without knowing these particulars would be a guess at best and probably not a very accurate one at that.

If you don't understand any of what's been asked for above, it would be in your best interest to spend some time in the "Beginners Guides", a link to them is provided on the front page of this site.

The range of success varies widely. Some have trouble attaining a 140MHz FSB whereas others, can top 200+MHz (DDR=400+MHz). I think that most of the XP1600+ chips will run in the 1600 to 1675MHz area with the right motherboard / chipset on air.

Good Luck!

Silver

01-13-02, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by FullOfSlack
My XP1600+ is only stable at 1533MHz at 1.85 vcore. Even with the volt mod and 2.2 vcore it is not stable above that. I have the SK6 and at 2.2 it only got to 45C full load so heat seems not to be the problem. I can boot into windowsXP at 1600MHz but once I start running burn in tests it will reboot. I am disapointed and once the price comes down on the 1800 and 1900 I might get one.

I have found the same to be true. The higher vcores do not seem to help it alot. If however I get the water about 5c cooler then the oc goes up considerably as well as stability. It seems that a smallish pelt would allow more. Playing with the ram timings helped a lot in moving the speed up. This cpu seems to be very sensitive to voltage adjustments and temp, unlike the t-bird were brute force went a long ways.

lennytiger

01-13-02, 03:18 AM

put your system info in your sig then every post you go to we can all see your system specs!!

soundfx4

01-14-02, 06:52 PM

Oh sorry, well I'm glad I didn't type all that in that case lol. I just copied and pasted it from my system info. I will put my stats in my signiture.

soundfx4

01-14-02, 07:18 PM

Ok, signiture has been set :)

soundfx4

01-14-02, 08:43 PM

hey, is changing the core voltage pose the exact same heat threat as the changing the buss speed? Or is there another threat with changing the core voltage?

FRANK

01-14-02, 09:08 PM

I have no experience with that board, but some have reported reaching 150+FSB from the KT133A chipset. A lot will depend on the other parts of your system, Ram and NIC in particular.

You should update your BIOS to one of the later versions that will take advantage of the latest technology of the CPU as well as identify the XP processor properly. These are located on the MSI website.

Yes you will increase the heat produced by the CPU with an increase in voltage, take appropriate steps to deal with this issue.

Good Luck!

soundfx4

01-14-02, 09:59 PM

Ohh, ok, I see. Thanks for the info!

Myself and I

01-14-02, 11:43 PM

My sig

soundfx4

01-15-02, 01:19 AM

Hmmm...ok I have been messing around with the Vcore, and fsb, and the highest I have got it so far is a 144 bus with ummm...I forget the Vcore, but anyway, it won't boot at anything over 144, and I would like to get it to 150, or at least 146-147. Any suggestions of Vcore voltage I should try? Mine can only go up to 1.80 V. So what are my options? Anyway know? Also, if I unlock it, will that help me out any? And if so, exactley how? Also, one of you here say you got your 1600 to a 203 fsb? Is that right? Any more info will help greatly, thx.

dropadrop

01-15-02, 02:55 AM

I've been a bit disapointed in my xp1600 too... I expected it to go alot higher then it has. Once I got it first I just cranked it up to 150fsb after a couple of days. It was working fine with standard voltage, and turbo cas2 timings for the ram. I kept it there for a couple of days, and then thought I'd raise it. I noticed that I can have 151 stable if I raise the vcore a bit, 152 stable if I max the vcore, and 153 unstable whatever I do. I was shocked at how small the diferance is... I did'nt unlock it, but I don't really know if I'd be getting alot more of it by doing that anyway.

soundfx4

01-15-02, 03:10 AM

oh, well at least you can have 150 fsb, I'm stuck at 133 :( my system messed up at 144. I dunno, I will try some more stuff later. I'll try just jacking up the Vcore to 150. Also, could lowering the Vcore help any? I wouldn't think it could, but I don't know till I ask.

Jeniva

01-15-02, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by AntiHeiss
On my sig down there you see my main rig. It is an aircooled AGKGA-9 I believe. I know, I haven't seen another 9 either. I have hit 1.782GHz (11.5*155) STABLE! And thats air-cooled ladies and gentlemen.....MC462A w/68CFM Delta, and 375CFM going through the case. I usually just leave it around 1.62 or so though. I guess I was just blessed with an awesome processor. I love it.

Anyone else here have an AGKGA-9??? Wondering.

Yes..see my sig...I have the AGKGA "9" as well...Im still testing the O/C abilities of the chip...right now its running at 35c FULL LOAD...im just running a Tt Volcano 6cu+(7000rpm) with 4 80mm exaust fans and 2 120mm intakes. just ordered some more ASII because i lost my tube :( Im thinking of going with a Pal with a Delta screamer..not sure at the moment..I want water cooling as well...but I really need to do alot more research before i do.

lennytiger

01-15-02, 11:35 AM

lol axia are the best supposively!!!

soundfx4

01-15-02, 04:40 PM

Hmmm...hey all, I think I will unlock my XP 1600, for a few reasons. One, I have a theory. If after I unlock it, I make the multiplier 5-8, and raise the fsb to 199 so my memory bus will be almost as fast as ddr ram. Umm...I don't know if that will work, like I said it is a theory of mine :rolleyes: Let me know any comments on this. Thanks!

Malakai

01-16-02, 12:20 AM

it all depends. with regular ram and no PCI divisor settings i can almost garuntee u wont get near that high. check out the guides on the overclockers main page, lots of info on overclocking. u should read all u can before doing the 199fsb thing.
u definately need to read a little more about o/c"ing:)
i mean that in the most polite way!
also webssites like www.tomshardware.com have lots of info on overclocking and tweaking bios options(toms reviews suck but lots of other good info)
i would also get a copy of motherboard monitor 5 to check out ur temps(do a google search for it)
hope this helps and post any other questions and ill do my best to answer them
-Malakai

soundfx4

01-16-02, 05:50 PM

Yeah, sure thx. I wouldn't dare try to raise it to 199 without doing a little research first lol. I'll check those places out, and read some more on Overclocking. Thanks :)

AntiHeiss

01-16-02, 07:27 PM

okay, your multiplier only affects the CPU...so if your multplier is only 5 or 8 and your FSB is 199...then its still the same...FSB-wise if your multiplier is 10.5 and your FSB is 199. So in other words...turning your multiplier down won't let you clock the FSB up any higher.

soundfx4

01-16-02, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by AntiHeiss
okay, your multiplier only affects the CPU...so if your multplier is only 5 or 8 and your FSB is 199...then its still the same...FSB-wise if your multiplier is 10.5 and your FSB is 199. So in other words...turning your multiplier down won't let you clock the FSB up any higher.

You must of misunderstood me, I don't mean it that way. I just want to raise my memory clock without raiseing my CPU speed to were it will fry it, I know it won't effect my CPU speed.

Silver

01-16-02, 07:43 PM

xp1600 154x11 for 1.7 at 2.33v

soundfx4

01-16-02, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by Silver
xp1600 154x11 for 1.7 at 2.33v

My mobo doesn't go to 2.33v, only 1.85 : \

Silver

01-16-02, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by soundfx4

My mobo doesn't go to 2.33v, only 1.85 : \

Neither did mine...:)

eh?

01-16-02, 10:01 PM

i had my xp to 166fsb still locked at 1.85 vcore.

Arkaine23

01-16-02, 11:14 PM

Got 153 at max unmodded vcore once on a really cold day. What's that, like 1607 MHz or so? Need to unlock or volt mod to go higher. Seems stable at FSB 150-152 though, but I just usually run around 147 or 148.

bobt17

01-16-02, 11:28 PM

see my sig i have the steping and everything there and btw thats without unlocking all fsb :) 162x10.5 and i'm very happy with this oc

soundfx4

01-16-02, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by Silver

Neither did mine...:)

uhhh...what do you mean neither DID mine? And also, how the hell are you all getting fsb speeds of 150, and up? I can't get mine past 140! : \

Thelemac

01-17-02, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by soundfx4

uhhh...what do you mean neither DID mine? And also, how the hell are you all getting fsb speeds of 150, and up? I can't get mine past 140! : \

My guess would be a combination of all that RAM (how many sticks is that? Three?) and the less that great cooling.

eh?

01-17-02, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by soundfx4

uhhh...what do you mean neither DID mine? And also, how the hell are you all getting fsb speeds of 150, and up? I can't get mine past 140! : \
he modded his motherboard to go to that high of voltage, i think

Silver

01-17-02, 12:35 AM

Originally posted by drdingo21

he modded his motherboard to go to that high of voltage, i think

That would be correct. I presently have resistors in it to go to 2.33v on the vcore. One stick of 128 tomicon. Cas 2 at that as well. Spent a fair amount of time reading and searching the internet to get there. Heard that others were getting there so... and now I am there. Am waiting for the shuttle to get in for the ddr and I think I will put the T-bird back in as it will oc a fair amount higher than this xp1600. The water cooling is a modded dd maze 2/1 with a bong cooler. In the future I would like to see what the xp will do with a smallish pelt. :D

Response is excellent!!!

Silver

01-17-02, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by soundfx4

uhhh...what do you mean neither DID mine? And also, how the hell are you all getting fsb speeds of 150, and up? I can't get mine past 140! : \

There is a lot of information on the net for optimizing your chipset.

Silver

01-17-02, 12:40 AM

Drdingo, that is on an xp1600? If so then well done, that's what about 1.75?

soundfx4

01-17-02, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by Thelemac

My guess would be a combination of all that RAM (how many sticks is that? Three?) and the less that great cooling.

One stick, 512 mbs, and one 128, and another 64. Yeah, it is three. How can ram effect that?

soundfx4

01-17-02, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by Silver

That would be correct. I presently have resistors in it to go to 2.33v on the vcore. One stick of 128 tomicon. Cas 2 at that as well. Spent a fair amount of time reading and searching the internet to get there. Heard that others were getting there so... and now I am there. Am waiting for the shuttle to get in for the ddr and I think I will put the T-bird back in as it will oc a fair amount higher than this xp1600. The water cooling is a modded dd maze 2/1 with a bong cooler. In the future I would like to see what the xp will do with a smallish pelt. :D

Response is excellent!!!

OHHHHH!!!! Ok, I see

soundfx4

01-17-02, 01:15 AM

I didn't think to check at a search engine for optimizing my chipset, although I dought I will find anything that does anything :( Also, my fricken computer has been booting up to a stupid blue screen lately after I changed certain BIOS settings. And I have had these settings before, and it NEVER did this! Why does it choose to do this now?? I am not changing anything I haven't before. Grrrr......:mad: