New to World of Warcraft!

[salsa88]

I'm getting WOW today and have never played it before. Can somone give me some pointers as what's the best build, race so on. And anyother tips you can give a fellow OC starting up in WOW.
Thanks!

[OldSkool]

Tip #1 Get out while you still can, lol. I got tied up in WoW for over a year and it was waaaaaaaay too addicting. Fortunately, once you quit, it's too much of a Pita to start over, so I'm long since free :D

If, on the other hand, you would like to proceed, I found a Night Elf Druid to be quite fun and challenging.

[hajalie24]

lol i'll never play WoW, heard to many horror stories. get out while you can :P

[kayson]

Get out while you still can :p

Pick a class first, then you can decide on a race and build. I personally don't think any class is any more difficult to learn than the others. I started out with a warlock and I loved it. As for tips:

Get the addon called questhelper. It will tell you where things are for different quests. It might be considered cheating by some but I think it just speeds up the process.

Forgot to add some resources:
www.thottbot.com
wow.allakhazam.com
http://files.wowace.com/

[salsa88]

Get the addon called questhelper. It will tell you where things are for different quests. It might be considered cheating by some but I think it just speeds up the process.

Great tip Ill look into it, I played Guild Wars on and off for a few years. Its getting close to the holiday session and I really enjoy playing around this time when all the fun new holiday side quests start up. I'll tryt not to get to hook but I'm pretty good at not getting hooked to one game :p

[thideras]

Great tip Ill look into it, I played Guild Wars on and off for a few years. Its getting close to the holiday session and I really enjoy playing around this time when all the fun new holiday side quests start up. I'll tryt not to get to hook but I'm pretty good at not getting hooked to one game :pwww.wowhead.com (http://www.wowhead.com) is my main site.

If you haven't decided on a realm yet, I'm on Dalaran :)

I'd be happy to help either way ;)

[salsa88]

www.wowhead.com (http://www.wowhead.com) is my main site.

If you haven't decided on a realm yet, I'm on Dalaran :)

I'd be happy to help either way ;)

Thanks Great site! Ill be sure to check out the Dalaran realm

[rock92884]

Man I wish I could be a first time WOW player again. Those were great times! I was in such awe the first time I walked into IronForge.:drool:

[salsa88]

Anyone know a faster download for WOW other then there site? it says 4 hrs for 3.8gb that should only take me an hour or two..

[thideras]

Anyone know a faster download for WOW other then there site? it says 4 hrs for 3.8gb that should only take me an hour or two..Check some download sites, not sure of any specific ones though :-/

[soulfly1448]

Man I wish I could be a first time WOW player again. Those were great times! I was in such awe the first time I walked into IronForge.:drool:

Some of the visuals in Wrath should have the same effect. Did for me. Awestruck when I first saw Crystal Song Forest.

[Shiggity]

Remember to play in moderation ;)

[IrishAssassin]

No jokes, get out while you can.

[Harvey041]

Yawn.....ignore all the people who don't have self control and let the game control them. If you have an addictive personality I would advise you to stay away from it.

[Mortis03]

+1 for not getting into it, lol

But if you must play...

www.thottbot.com Make it your homepage, lol. If you get a coordinate mod, that site (along with other sites) will tell you where to go for just about every quest in the form of x,y coordinates.

I would suggest being a healer. You'll always been needed somehow. Druids were insane in arena when I quit. By the time you level and get to where you can do some serious pvp, that will prolly be different though.

[Albyno]

+1 for getting out ASAP.

Tauren druid was very fun tho. priests got shafted alot. Warriors seem to be pimping from what my bro tells me tho. but imo if u really wanna play wait till the death knight comes in. it is going to be insainly overpowered! and starts at lvl 50

[XRogerX]

yes get out while you can but if you honestly want to pass the time away thats a good game to play , and when i mean pass time you will pass 12hrs without notice lol

i have playing it since it come out 4-5yrs nows lol

[Firey_chasm]

+1 for getting out ASAP.

Tauren druid was very fun tho. priests got shafted alot. Warriors seem to be pimping from what my bro tells me tho. but imo if u really wanna play wait till the death knight comes in. it is going to be insainly overpowered! and starts at lvl 50

you need a high level char before you can make a deathknight

if you wanna find groups easily make a tank or healer class:

classes that can tank: Pala, Warrior, Druid
classes that can heal: Priest, Druid, Paladin, Shaman

as a tank or healer you have more influence over if a group will suceed or fail. If you wanna play while 'sleeping' a dps class is probably better as if you go afk not much bad happens. i.e. rogue/hunter/mage/warlock etc. etc.

Other than that its all personal preference, Blizzard aren't bad now at balanceing classes out

[Sjaak]

Try eve online if you seriously want to get into an mmo ;)

[Stratus_ss]

Try eve online if you seriously want to get into an mmo ;)

that game is too daunting to be fun. I played two weeks and felt like i got absolutely no where. I went virtually the whole time without running into another human controlled character.

Maybe i just didnt understand the game, maybe i need to actually physically watch an experience person play, but i just didnt get it

[Tumnus]

"Get out while you still can."

Man, get in while you still can.

Played on and off since release day. Somehow, someway, Blizzard's got me thinking about returning.

[Is_907]

Whatever you do, find some *real people* to play with.
Biggest pitfall of *all* MMOs is lack of good social interaction. A friend of mine still plays WoW and on the weekends he'll put in 20 hours in a day (usually on Saturday). The problem for him, though, is that he burns out by playing like that by himself or with PUGs (Pick Up Groups... not a group you intended to play with and not part of your clan/guild).

Enjoy it... I liked the quests and the world but there's too many people who just want to build optimum characters and beat the snot out of everyone else in PvP and that's all they want. I quit a while back.

[CleanSteve]

Welcome to wow it's great. As others have pointed out, thottbot, wowwiki and wowhead will help you figure stuff out fast.

As for realm/race - pick a realm where you know people in real life. Will make it much easier to get started and to have fun - that will tell you whether to be horde or alliance. All the races are basically the same (very minor diffs) so pick one you think looks cool. You'll be staring at it a lot!

For class, I'd recommend druid, paladin or shaman if you want a lot of flexibility. They can dps or heal and the pally and druid can both tank.

Have fun!

[Mr.Guvernment]

what is meant by DPS and tank? i started a horde druid myself...

[meat nub]

I'm getting WOW today and have never played it before. Can somone give me some pointers as what's the best build, race so on. And anyother tips you can give a fellow OC starting up in WOW.
Thanks!

You just wasted your money. You should have bought Lord of the Rings Online or Warhammer.

[glock19owner]

Just came across this webpage wowmatrix.com (http://www.wowmatrix.com/)

Latest World of Warcraft AddOns for Patch 3.0.2

I already downloaded the program...seems to be clean...and list all of the add ons out for WoW with installer...

[salsa88]

You just wasted your money. You should have bought Lord of the Rings Online or Warhammer.

Lol I already played lotr it was lame :p

Great find Glock19Owner

[John G]

First thing is picking a server type. There's Normal, RP, PvP, and RP-PvP. Basically, RP adds some roleplaying rules (mainly naming restrictions) and has more players who try to role play. PvP enables Horde and Alliance faction players to attack each other in most world zones...starting out, it means you will probably get "ganked" sometimes, but it adds a lot more life and excitement to regular gameplay. Normal has neither RP rules or world PvP enabled, and RP-PvP type has both. I play RP-PvP exclusively.

Next is picking Alliance or Horde...you can only have characters on one faction per server. You can have both Alliance and Horde, but they must be on different servers. The main difference is flavor, starting areas, and cities. Some observe Horde as having more mature players on average since kids especially like to be "the good guys", but milage varies per server. Horde getting Blood Elves in the last expansion evened things out a lot since Horde finally had "attractive" looking characters.

The primary choice is picking a class - race is kinda secondary with minor perks associated with each one. In group PvE content, there are three main roles that people fill. Tanks (manage mobs), Healers, and DPS (kill stuff). DPS can divide into two types, melee and ranged. Depending on talent and gear choices, most classes can serve different roles. Note that Deathknights are not available yet and require already having a level 70 character.

Tanks - Warrior, Druid, Paladin, Deathknight

Healers - Priest, Shaman, Druid, Paladin

Melee DPS - Rogue, Warrior, Shaman, Druid, Paladin, Deathknight

Ranged DPS - Mage, Warlock, Hunter, Shaman, Druid, Priest

All the classes are useful and capable, it's mostly a matter of play styles and learning what you enjoy. PvP is somewhat of another world with its own ideal talent choices, strategies, and itemization in order to be optimal.

When you play solo - which is a lot of questing and leveling, often even style-wise when you play with someone else, being able to fill one of these roles is hardly important. As such, usually making more dps and pvp style choices while leveling usually makes the best sense in order to be able to kill things/people quickly and have decent survivability.

[CleanSteve]

what is meant by DPS and tank? i started a horde druid myself...

There are three basic functions you can do in wow (and most multiplayer RPGs):

Tank: Get beat on by really tough mobs and not get killed. In fights with multiple players the tank 'controls' the boss and directs his damage away from the softer members of the team, usually onto himself.

DPS: "Damage Per Second" generally means that you do lots of damage.

Healing: Heal other players that are getting damaged.

Some classes can only do only one or two of these things well. For example, mages, warlocks, rogues, and hunters pretty much can only DPS. But some classes can do more than one thing well -- allows for more flexibility down the road.

So, if you decide that you start out as a healer, but hate it, you can try something else.

Of course, when you're solo levelling, none of this stuff really matters -- all classes have to be able to kill mobs.

[salsa88]

My char is going to be a Druid knight elf. what should I do if I want to Tank and DPS?

[CleanSteve]

you should just go ahead and level as you are already doing.

there are two kinds of dps you can do (yes druids are crazy flexible!) and I would try both as you level to see what you like.

- Feral means that you mostly dps in cat form, and you put your talents in the Feral tree. This is basically a sneaky/melee kind of fighting. The nice thing about this kind of spec/gear is that if you want to tank you can use mostly the same gear and spec, so easy to do both.

- Balance means that you are mostly a ranged caster, doing most of your damage with spells at long range -- more like a mage. This requires a different set of talents and gear.

I would try BOTH as you level to get a feel for what you like. Eg. play balance for 10 levels, then feral for 10 levels.

Most druids build up multiple gear sets so they can credibly do any of these functions if needed/desired.

[Mr.Guvernment]

all this walking is making this game boring, and i cant find anyone to join since trial accounts dont let you join a team and share quests! way to turn someone off the game by not experiencing, to me, a rather important part of it!

[Janus67]

all this walking is making this game boring, and i cant find anyone to join since trial accounts dont let you join a team and share quests! way to turn someone off the game by not experiencing, to me, a rather important part of it!

It didn't actually used to be like that. With all of the popularity came a lot of gold spammers. Those people go through and create trial accounts go to into cities and spam websites where you can buy gold or power leveling services (and so forth). They would also do a /who 70 (or whatever) and just invite every person on those lists into groups.

On the bright side I believe that a person who is not on a trial can invite you to a group, but just not the other way around.

My suggestion, buy the game (costs like $20) and you get a free month for the first month. Try it out with all the bells and whistles and see how you like it. If you don't, unsubscribe or whatever and you know.

[John G]

At early levels, all classes get just a few basic abilities and have no talent points to spend. Druids are particularly bland initially, but eventually develop into the most flexible class in the game with a number of unique perks. The flexibility comes through shapeshifting into different forms.

Tanking comes through Bear form which gets improved primarily with Feral Talents. The Feral tree also shares Cat form talents, which is a melee dps and stealth form that emulates rogues. Feral is probably your best bet for leveling, but Balance can also be fun for caster dps eventually with the Moonkin (like an owlkin) form.

I think around level 10, you get a class quest to gain Bear form. It is a very durable form with extra health and lots of armor. It functions a lot like a protection warrior. It is useful for questing because it's durable and can whittle down multiple mobs with Swipe. When your health starts to get low, you can pop out of form, heal, and go back to Bear form.

I think at level 20 you get a class quest to gain Cat form, which makes the class a lot more fun. If you spec into Feral tree, you can soon get a talent that makes cat form run extra fast - very handy. Another one increases your ability to move in stealth undetected. By the time you reach 30, your abilities in cat form start to fill out where you can ambush things from stealth, build up combo points, and spend them on finishing moves. The kill speed is very good and works better than bear form most of the time. If you end up with 3+ mobs on you, it's usually best to switch to bear form instead so that you don't die too quickly.

For Feral gear, you will primarily look for Leather Armor with Agility, Strength, and Stamina. Agility gives crit%, dodge%, 1 AP in cat form, a small amount of armor, and eventually some +healing if you get Nurturing Spirit or some such named talent. Strength gives +2 Attack Power. Stamina gives 10 health. Attack Power is okay as a replacement for Strength with 2 AP = 1 Str. Critical Strike and Dodge can be okay in lieu of Agility. Some Intellect and Spirit are nice to improve your mana pool. Intellect makes the pool bigger, Spirit makes it refill faster when you are not casting.

One of the nice things about fighting in a Feral form is that you are not casting...so your mana regens in the background.

At level 40, your Bear form gets upgraded to "Dire Bear"...which looks the same but has a lot more armor. It coincides with Warriors and Paladins getting access to Plate armor instead of Mail. Eventually, you will get an Aquatic form (breath underwater and swim with no speed penalty), a Travel form (cheetah cat that runs fast), and Flight forms in Outland. Restoration Tree can provide a Healing Tree form and Balance can provide the previously mentioned Moonkin form.

I have a level 70 Druid, but primarily play a Warrior. My Druid character is actually the first character I ever made. Druids are one of the more complicated and overall difficult classes in the game, but they have a lot of available benefits. :)

[Shiggity]

all this walking is making this game boring, and i cant find anyone to join since trial accounts dont let you join a team and share quests! way to turn someone off the game by not experiencing, to me, a rather important part of it!

The tauren starting area and the NE starting area are HUGE, you walk around so much. I didn't like questing there for that reason. Especially the area after you finish the tauren starting area (the crossroads) is the biggest zone in the entire game I think =D, questing there is PAINFUL.

I like the human and undead starting areas much better. Those areas have the best first instances as well, shadowfang keep and the deadmines are ownage, old school but still awesome.

[lordkosc]

All the walking is prolly why I hated the trial of WOW I took.

At least in EVE you use waypoints which I liked a lot better.

[Shiggity]

When the game was brand new and you were exploring the areas fresh and you had played the previous warcraft games, it was much better to say the least.

I would think a new player would like looking around at the cool world.

Are you just looking at the ground while questing? =D

[Mr.Guvernment]

It didn't actually used to be like that. With all of the popularity came a lot of gold spammers. Those people go through and create trial accounts go to into cities and spam websites where you can buy gold or power leveling services (and so forth). They would also do a /who 70 (or whatever) and just invite every person on those lists into groups.

On the bright side I believe that a person who is not on a trial can invite you to a group, but just not the other way around.

My suggestion, buy the game (costs like $20) and you get a free month for the first month. Try it out with all the bells and whistles and see how you like it. If you don't, unsubscribe or whatever and you know.

I may do that, buy it for a month, i played so much so far that now i almost dread logging in because of all the darn walking!!

I had a craving last week at work to play, like maybe something exciting will happen! Got home, played for about.. 4 hours, and just got sick of grinding, got to LvL8 i think, but the grinding and walking for ever got so boring! This is what i like about say Gothic3 , each major town you hit, you got a portal stone and you can use that stone at any time to take you to the towns you have collected the stone from, it was nice, cause you could teleport to roughly where you wanted to be and then walk from there, so it was so tedious. I do also get impatient, and i tend to not want to do all the quests and just walk and explore the map, find all the towns, collect the quests and then go back and pick and choose what to do.

All the walking is prolly why I hated the trial of WOW I took.

At least in EVE you use waypoints which I liked a lot better.

yup, i think way points or some kind of teleport system would of been nice, i guess once you get up higher and buy something to ride, it isnt nearly as bad, but then the 1 hour limit of the Inn feature... like um.. okay.. I guess they dont want people running away in the middle of a battle and just returning to a town.

When the game was brand new and you were exploring the areas fresh and you had played the previous warcraft games, it was much better to say the least.

I would think a new player would like looking around at the cool world.

Are you just looking at the ground while questing? =D

it looks nice, but when you are eventually looking at the same thing over and over and over and over, it gets repetitive. I played WC 2 and WC3 and frozen throne, stopped after that.

i am looking all around, but for me it is more about action and such, i know how to kill most animals, stand X distance away, throw X spell, hit 3 times, then hit with staff = dead, rinse repeat.

[thideras]

You can get mounts (level 30 now?) or abilities to speed travel up. I'll agree that there is a ton of walking in the Tauren area though.

Remember, the game starts out pretty slow, but once you hit 20-30+, it just takes off and is completely different. Level 70 (and soon to be 80) is completely different, the game changes a ton as you level up :)

There is so much to learn about a class it isn't even funny.

[salsa88]

I'm a blood elf and have had to do little running around so far. Most of my quest are just "kill 4 blah bah and return", "then speak with blah blah". I have quest helper so thight might be why i just go from point A to point B :p thanks again for the add on info!
I'm at lvl 10 and was woundering when/where the first real quest/raid is at?
Also how do i set my screen up like this?
68787

I want to have my map bottom center and all the other info displayed like in the picture. Is it an add on??

[JonSimonzi]

That's alot more than 1 addon Salsa, it's probably about 50. UI's like that aren't easy to set up. The quests generally stay that way leveling up, you can start doing dungeons (5 people) at any time, although groups are hard to put together. Raids (10+ people), don't start until 70, soon to be 80.

[salsa88]

Thanks!

[e6600]

go to barrens (horde) and youll have a fun time
i promise that

[Stratus_ss]

go to barrens (horde) and youll have a fun time
i promise that

I pretty much didnt like any of the horde starting zones. Wayyyyyy to much walking, of course I havent played in over a year, I just reinstalled on friday night and much has changed so maybe they made better transit.
The one thing going for the barens are the 3 flight paths. Also its an extremely good place if you have a profession that uses ore. Great mining in that area.

[JonSimonzi]

As mentioned, it gets easier when you get to 30 and can get a mount. If you happen to be on Cenarius Alliance side I'll buy you one if you don't have the gold.

[1Kurgan1]

Get the addon called questhelper. It will tell you where things are for different quests. It might be considered cheating by some but I think it just speeds up the process.

Forgot to add some resources:
www.thottbot.com
wow.allakhazam.com
http://files.wowace.com/

Questhelper is a bad mod that hogs memory and has some mem leaks, a better one is Carbonite. It doesn't get the credit because it's name isn't as straight forward, but it gives you a kill on sight list, a map that is scroll by mouse wheel and tells you where quests are without the annoying arrows, or with them if you want.

I pretty much didnt like any of the horde starting zones. Wayyyyyy to much walking, of course I havent played in over a year, I just reinstalled on friday night and much has changed so maybe they made better transit. .

If your leveling horde don't bother with the Barrens, the blood elf area is the best leveling spot in game for either faction.

[thideras]

Questhelper is a bad mod that hogs memory and has some mem leaksNever had an issue with QuestHelper, did you try a newer version?

[IrishAssassin]

Is anyone else's server laggy as hell? I'm on Illidan and it's unplayable. It's been nearly a month.

[thideras]

Is anyone else's server laggy as hell? I'm on Illidan and it's unplayable. It's been nearly a month.I have no idea how this is relevant to this thread, but yeah, it happens. There are a ton of servers having issues right now.

[HeatM1ser2k4]

I'm getting WOW today and have never played it before. Can somone give me some pointers as what's the best build, race so on. And anyother tips you can give a fellow OC starting up in WOW.
Thanks!

Ret Pallies rock after the recent patch

[Maxvla]

All I can say is play with moderation, if any. I played WoW nearly every day since release til about a month and a half ago (nearly 4 years). I wasn't really addicted because when I wanted to quit I did cold turkey and have had zero regrets. I did however end up setting up my entire life around the game which meant I neglected a seriously huge part of my life which I just came to realize was missing recently. Since then I've felt more free. My life schedule isn't ruled by raid times anymore so I can actually cook real food (takes longer than getting fast food). I can go out to a movie with a friend, I can actually have a sparkling clean apartment able to have people over, etc. There are many other things I can go into, but this is just an advisory to not waste years of your life in this game like I did, especially if you are young and in school, this game can be devastating if it keeps you from getting scholarships or having good attendance.

Chris (Shadow priest forever!)

[Insane Scyth]

Is anyone else's server laggy as hell? I'm on Illidan and it's unplayable. It's been nearly a month.

Some servers are getting lag because the world event for wrath of the lich king has just started. The scourge are invading.

[e6600]

I pretty much didnt like any of the horde starting zones. Wayyyyyy to much walking, of course I havent played in over a year, I just reinstalled on friday night and much has changed so maybe they made better transit.
The one thing going for the barens are the 3 flight paths. Also its an extremely good place if you have a profession that uses ore. Great mining in that area.
well its not really the gameplay im talking about, but if you want to consider that, having rfc + wailing caverns from 13-20 is very nice and fast leveling. added with other quests
but usually theres talk of chuck norris and mr t in the barrens, and that just makes questing so much funner

[Mr.Guvernment]

so how long does it usually take to get to like lvl 30 ? 1 week? of saying playing 3-5 hours a day

[salsa88]

so how long does it usually take to get to like lvl 30 ? 1 week? of saying playing 3-5 hours a day

I'm not sure I've been playing a few days and im lvl 12 right now

[Firey_chasm]

umm, level time can vary alooot.

i.e. my 1st hunter took 18 days /played to get to 60 because I constantly just pvp'ed etc and far from rushed.

but now if you take advantage of the recruit a friend bonus xp (3xXP from quests and kills) people get past 60 ~the 1 day /played mark (ie 24hours)

[Stratus_ss]

i considered dual boxing just to level a char up with the XP bonus

Level 30 used to take a while, I have no idea how long it takes now, especially with all the friggin zombies in the main towns if you need transport somewhere... its so freaking annoying.

I have a Shaman at lvl 56 who has 5 days /played but that was before they really bumped up the XP you got (or lowered how much you need i dont know which)

Otherwise I got from 1-13 in 3 hrs ish on friday. I expect that lvl 30 will come about in a couple of days

[salsa88]

Otherwise I got from 1-13 in 3 hrs ish on friday. I expect that lvl 30 will come about in a couple of days

Thats pretty fast I've got about 12 hours on my char and im only lvl 12 lol
maybe its just because im new at this :beer:

[Firey_chasm]

Thats pretty fast I've got about 12 hours on my char and im only lvl 12 lol
maybe its just because im new at this :beer:

ye dont forget alot of people have been playing this game aloooong time now, so doing the quests etc is 2nd nature. your 1st char to (80) will take quite a while

[Stratus_ss]

Thats pretty fast I've got about 12 hours on my char and im only lvl 12 lol
maybe its just because im new at this :beer:

When I first started playing getting to lvl 20 took me the full length of the trial.

I also kill absolutely everything I come across at lower levels, so i dont do as many quests but i am constantly gaining XP which is key because a lot of quests make you walk all over the place which is wasted time if all you do is walk...

So I walk and grind

[Sentential]

Honestly speaking WoW is more of a social game than anything, its not fun to play at all by yourself. The game at its best is with about 5-10 friends all on voice chat leveling as a group or questing seperatly.

Getting started from the ground up without help is a daunting task and definatly not reccomended as it will drastically increase the amount of time it takes you to level.

For somone starting out 1-30 will take about 2 weeks because:
#1 no money
#2 no higher level toons power-leveling you
#3 no idea where to go and what quests to take and which not to take

Whereas if you start with an experienced player you can get to 1-60 in about the same time roughly (if that) My friends who just started playing leveled their toons to 70 and got epic-geared in about a month-and-a-half and the first 20 levels took about 3-4 hours. Most of which was spent in dungeons mass-pulling mobs (ie the entire dungeon)

[HeatM1ser2k4]

so how long does it usually take to get to like lvl 30 ? 1 week? of saying playing 3-5 hours a day

It really depends on you. Install these addons: Questhelper and Lightheaded. They will tell you exactly where to go for each quest item, and save you significant time. I also found that teh best way to power-level your toon is to avoid running dungeons, and just do quests

I recently levelled a priest to 70, and I did it in something like 6 days playing time.I only did a few dungeon.

Oh...and whats helpful is to quest in areas where the mobs are 1-2 levels below you...that way they are easier to kill, and the quests go by faster and yield maximum XP.

Another thing....each area your questing in should be made your home Inn. Make sure to park your character at an inn whenever your not playing so that you gain rest XP.

[Stratus_ss]

Whereas if you start with an experienced player you can get to 1-60 in about the same time roughly (if that) My friends who just started playing leveled their toons to 70 and got epic-geared in about a month-and-a-half and the first 20 levels took about 3-4 hours. Most of which was spent in dungeons mass-pulling mobs (ie the entire dungeon)

That is if you have a friend who is willing to put in the time to power level you. I have no such luck lol. My friends are all to lazy and dont have good classes for this.

It also depends on how you play. The toon that I hit level 12, I am actually re-reading all the quest dialogue which slows me down a great deal compared to just "accepted" and go quests.


Zones I disliked: Desolace, Stranglehorn
Zones I liked: Un'goro, WPL, Ferelas

[Firey_chasm]

I havent read quest dialogue in a looooooong time lol, instant quest and accept, if I dont know how to do a quest then I read it.

[Shanghaied]

Just to get rolling a bit with gold...take up skinning and herbalism or mining. Sell the stuff. Forget tradeskills until 60+. You'll make plenty of gold (especially from skinning) to make the game a bit more fun.

For selling...I also recommend making a "banker" alt too. Less traveling between auctions houses...and less bother when you find something valuable to sell. No /whispers asking for a better price if your banker is only online to add new stuff to the auction house.

[John G]

Maybe I'm a little weird, but my favorite starting areas are Mulgore (Tauren area) --> Barrens. Although, in Barrens I tend to ignore chat most of the time. Once you get a feel for where all the quests are, the running around is a non-issue and the wide-open spaces are enjoyable. There's a strong "nature" feel and flavor to both. One of the unique things about the Barrens is it will level higher (about 3-5 levels) than any other starting zone in the game without passing into contested territory. (Noteworthy for PvP enabled servers.)

Quest helper and similar add-ons can be good for starting players in that they help people know what to do, where to go, etc. However, at the same time they could detract from the game some as well. To me, part of the fun is reading the quests and dialogue, figuring out what to do and where to go, learning the area, and so on. It is where a lot of the roleplaying elements are. After the first play through, yeah...been there, done that...but, then again you probably will have quest helper in your own head at that point. I don't use any quest add-ons and just work through them on my own. If I really actually need help on something, I just quickly check thottbot or similar website.


Server lag is generally a lot worse right now compared to normal. Reasons being, Scourge invasion and zombie infestation world events, new massive patch with some potential bugs in it, and player usage is way up right now. People have a lot of new things to play around with from the patch, nerfed raid content to be plowed through, class changes to try out, and general getting into the game as the expansion rolls out. It seems to be getting better, slowly...probably will be worse again expansion day. Of particular note for my warrior, PvP got pretty bad due to lag...even running on top of someone there was a strong chance of not being able to land any melee blows at all due to "out of range" or "facing wrong direction". Charge/Intercept frequently wouldn't end up anywhere near the target...not even close enough to get the initial hamstring. It's not always that bad, but often enough to be a serious problem. Lag strongly favors ranged attacks in PvP.


I also recommend double gathering skills for starting out. It's much simpler, faster and gathering is where all the money is. Production skills are huge money pits and are of most use at end game to max out your itemization. If you just mine/herb/skin as you level and sell everything you get on AH, you'll make huge amounts of money for your level. You'll need it when you have to pay for flying training and such eventually.

[Mr.Guvernment]

well my trial expired and i can personally, happily say i have had no cravings to make a new trial account or buy the game...

back to TF2 i went happily!

[thideras]

well my trial expired and i can personally, happily say i have had no cravings to make a new trial account or buy the game...

back to TF2 i went happily!When one plays that little of this game, I would expect that answer ;)

Beginning game content != end game content

[Critical_level2]

Beginning game content != end game content

I would agree. I have found most classes begin getting all the unique skills, weapons, spells, etc around level 20-30. That is where I think the game really begins.

[Mr.Guvernment]

ya, i just didn't have the patience, i think i tried it at a bad time, i was bored, wanted something new and fast and the installer troubles annoyed me, then seeing how much time i would have to spend to get to do anything cool was kind of frustrating, not being able to do everything in the trial was annoying.

maybe when i am not so occupied with other things as well i can try it again.