watter wetter or......

[JFettig]

i got a question on corosiveness...
im using a aluminum/plexi block that i made with copper fittings, well i will be using in like a week, but anyway, what should i use for a liquid solution? should i use waterwetter? or should i just use distilled water?

[Morbid]

From what I heard, WaterWetter isn't that great and it doesn't mix well with plastic overtime. I think using distilled water would be a better route... perhaps with some anti-freeze?

[JFettig]

yea but im using aluminum and just regular watter will eat it all up!

[Billvill]

Relax! You’re not using salt water. You will be fine with just plain water. Take a look in the reservoir in 6 months. I do not encourage using water wetter.

Billy

[JFettig]

alrite, but when i checked ocwc they tested it with and without water wetter and the one without was all coroded...

[The Overclocker]

Originally posted by Morbid
From what I heard, WaterWetter isn't that great and it doesn't mix well with plastic overtime. I think using distilled water would be a better route... perhaps with some anti-freeze?

water wter is very good and healps corosion, since people are only using about 2 oz to every quart no issues are going to come up

[ButcherUK]

Originally posted by Billvill
Relax! You’re not using salt water. You will be fine with just plain water. Take a look in the reservoir in 6 months. I do not encourage using water wetter.

Billy

Why not? If you use a mixed Cu/Al system with plain water it WILL corrode. This has been shown many times across the net. Don't risk it water wetter is not expensive and makes no impact on water temps.

[Newbie_Doo]

I have got to agree with The Overclocker on this one. Too much WW might cause softening of plastic hoses over time (like over a year or more), but mixed with distilled water in the recommended amounts it is just fine and I have not noticed any attacking of my hoses since I changed them and redid my mixture.

For the water temps we experience, it really will not improve them much. It will help to ****** corrosion in systems with dissimilar metals.

Tap water has enough dissolved solids in it to destroy the less noble metals in a system with dissimilar metals. Use an additive to prevent this and use Distilled water.

N_D

[JFettig]

what about just antifreeze and watter?

and what mixture should i use?

[nikhsub1]

Do not use anti freeze, sucks at conducting heat and it is much more vicious than water making it's flow rate blow.

[JFettig]

oh

um what do i use!!!
water wetter corodes plastic, just distilled water corodes aluminum.... just antifreeze sux

what to do!!!
what mixture do i use!!!!????

[nikhsub1]

I would use the water wetter. Just use the recommended amount. I have used the stuff in my cars for years.

[JFettig]

k thanx

but i was wondering about the plastic corosion problems?

[William]

like itse said, its not going to be an issue if you use Water Wetter in the recommended quantities(ie Not a quart to a gallon of water). Don't sweat it.

[Billvill]

I can tell you from first hand experience that water wetter will damage plastic . If you have a plastic reservoir it will crack it. Bleach does the same thing. Deal with the corrosion IF and When you see it. Like I said run the system 3 months and check it.

Billy

[Voodoo Rufus]

Go ahead and use the water-wetter. Everything I've read says it's better than antifreeze and works good too. You get much better flowrates as well.

You have to have some sort of corrosion protection and water wetter does that for you.

[FrozenInHI]

go with distilled water and water wetter in proper amounts, no worries at all then, no corrosion, no attacking of anything in your system, and it lubes the pump and keeps the impeller soft so it pumps better.

[VashTheStampede]

Still without an official watercooled rig (Waiting for KT333 chipsets in Feb, then I will buy a WB) I have tested both normal (Cheapo) antifreeze and Water Wetter in my truck. The radiator had been completely replaced less than 6 months ago and flushed and filled less than 2 months ago. The thermostat was also changed when the new rad got put in. Before the flush and fill I was using ProLine antifreeze/coolant, the stuff we put in everyone's car and truck unless requested for another brand. My temps were still up there (Reaching between A & L of NORMAL). Considering this a workhorse of a truck, a 1984 F-150 with an inline-6.

After the flush and fill, I have been using Water Wetter, absolutely NO difference in temps, only difference is how much it cost me. My manager who races trucks and co-worker who races production cars both recommend ProBlend 40 Below antifreeze/coolant over Water Wetter, they say WW is just like any other antifreeze/coolant out there on the shelf, just more expensive.

~Vash~

[Newbie_Doo]

Since there is some misinformation going around about Water Wetter and plastics, I thought I would ask the source:

E-mail sent to Redline:

RE: Water Wetter and plastics, do they mix?

Hi,

I am one of the Forum Moderators for www.overclockers.com . Many of our members, including myself, use water-cooling on our high-performance computers. (Overclocking is the computing equivalent of hot-rodding.) To assist in the thermal transfer and to reduce the surface tension of our coolant, many of us use Water Wetter in our coolant medium. Since most of us are using plastic reservoirs and vinyl tubing, there is some concern about Water Wetter attacking the plastic and softening the hoses. I have experienced this myself, but not to any detriment as of yet.

Most water cooling systems for computers use distilled water as the coolant medium, a C110 copper water jacket, either a copper or aluminum radiator, vinyl hoses, and commonly use brass fittings. Corrosion prevention is a must.

Will Water Wetter cause problems with our plastic components if used in the recommended proportions listed on the container? What ratio of distilled water and Water Wetter would you recommend to ensure corrosion prevention and maximum thermal transfer?

I look forward to hearing from you.

Most Sincerely,
Anthony Weissenberger

Redline's answer:

The WaterWetter has very good compatibility with typical plastics and vinyl. The bottle is a pure vinyl and doesn't have any adverse or softening effect. The mixing proportions is about 1 ounce to a quart or 4 ounces to a gallon of distilled water. The corrosion protection is depleted with use, so I would recommend replenishing it on an annual basis.

Regards, Dave
Red Line Oil

[JFettig]

do you sugest i use like 2 or 3oz instead of 4 for a gallon?

[Newbie_Doo]

I recommend that you mix it like they say on the bottle, and like Redline Technical support says. About 4 ounces to the gallon.

I am using 1/2 gallon of Distilled, and I have about 2 ounces of WW in my mix. Gives it a nice pink-purple tinge, and no worries about the plastic.

Originally, I was using a 40-60 mix, and that is TOO much WW. Made everything smell bad too when it spilled (a long story, the computer survived! :) ).

Mix it like they say, and change it at least annually and you will be just fine.

Anthony

[JFettig]

thanx everyone for your help!!!

[f155mph]

How does WW soften plastic??? On newer cars part of the rad is made of plastic. If ww soften plastic, the rad will blow since it is under pressure.

[ButcherUK]

Water Wetter seems fine on plastic. I suspect a lot of the FUD about water wetter on plastics is due to a mechanical shock cracking someone's res unnoticed and so they leap to the conclusion it's the water wetter. If it was damaging to plastic it wouldn't be in a plastic bottle (as noted by the redline guy).