Why can't I sucessfully do this darn pencil trick!?!??!!?!?!?

[Shadow ÒÓ]

AAARRRRGGGG.....25 times now at least! I've yet to have any sucess. AMD Duron 600 (2 of them actually and I alternate attempts). K7S5A mobo (although that shouldn't have ANYTHING to do with it.

I've penciled, erased, cleaned with alcohol, penciled, cleaned........

Am I just getting unlucky or is it THAT hard?

[rogerdugans]

I tried the pencil trick once. Didn't work. Gave up and got a defogger repair kit. This has been used on 3 cpus, and all were good first try. And I have more left!

[Arkaine23]

Have you tried different pencils? Some leads are far more conductive than others. I used defogger paint personally.

[nicksoti]

I have also used defogger paint with great success. It is also very easy to remove, it scraps in one piece, leaving no traces to the bridge. I also had some unsuccessful attempts with pencil trick. I have read somewhere that pencil trick HAS to do with the motherboard, as the signals through L-bridges are used from the motherboard to determine if it allows mult. change. Some motherboards are more sensitive to those signals than others.
Hope I helped and sorry for bad English.

Nick the Greek

[Sonny]

Shadow ÒÓ - Are you making fun of someone this time?:eh?:

[Shadow ÒÓ]

Originally posted by sonny
Shadow ÒÓ - Are you making fun of someone this time?:eh?:

nope....I went to a local auto shop looking for the defogger kit....also went to the Shack looking for a conductive pen. I'm giving up for now....maybe I'll try a couple other auto shops.

[repo man11]

I've used the pencil trick on 3 different CPU's. It worked very well, so I think it must be the mobo. Once, I thought it wasn't working. It was a Duron 750 on a Soyo board. The multiplier was set with a dip switch. It wouldn't boot at 800, so I redid it. Still no go. About to give up, I tried 850. Lights, camera, action! Strange but true.

[Shadow ÒÓ]

no switches/jumpers on the board, and I don't even get the option to change the multiplyer. Bought a brand new #2 pencil for this thing too! Grrrr...I'm out 10 cents now! =)

[Sonny]

Originally posted by Shadow ÒÓ
nope....I went to a local auto shop looking for the defogger kit....also went to the Shack looking for a conductive pen. I'm giving up for now....maybe I'll try a couple other auto shops. Go here (http://www.overclockers.com/topiclist/index04.asp#BEGINNER GUIDES) for a start. Then here (http://www.overclockers.com/tips402/) for a few tips. The Shack only sells it on-line but the Chemtronic CW2200MTP (http://www.chemtronics.com/catalog/catalog.cgi?action=list_products&category=7#20140) is a way better product. You can find a distributor here (http://www.chemtronics.com/public/dist_finder.cgi) for the pen.

This is the best tool...
http://www.chemtronics.com/catalog/prod_images/condpen.jpg

.....to do this;
http://www.overclockers.com/tips402/l17.jpg

[Shadow ÒÓ]

Thanks sonny. I really wanted to play with this thing tonight, but that's not gonna happen so I may as well order one.

[WarriorII]

Sorry to hear of your troubles.:(

I figured since the pencil trick wasn't a perminent thing and ppl were having probs with the stuff "wearing off" . I used a conductive pen and a jewlers glass (10x) to do my Duron.

Stay at it, you'll get it.

:cool:

[Wahoogie]

It took me a couple tries before I realized that my mobo didn't have the multiplier option IN bios... only on jumpers. I don't know your specific board but maybe it's the same thing. See if you can change mutiplier via your jumpers...

[TranceBear]

I went to a arts and crafts store and got a high graphite content pencil and it worked awesome!!

[Thelemac]

I see that the Die Hard Intel fan has come to the dark side! :D

[Ozzman]

here is what i got

Permatex® Quick Grid™ Rear Window Defogger Repair Kit

i got it at pep boys for 8 bucks but i had to go to two diff ones (one was sold out)

if i dont have a pep boys near u then u can order it here is one place that i found


http://www.accessconnect.com/rearview_mirror_adhesive.htm

it was pretty easy to do using the tape and trace method.. and im pretty sure i can oc now but will have to wait sence i cant on this mobo...

P.S dont put the bottle next to ur hand u WILL knock it over :( i lost almost the whole bottle that way what a waste of 8 bucks but i still had enough for the job o yeah and a also lost one table cloth LOL

[FRANK]

Originally posted by Shadow ÒÓ


nope....I went to a local auto shop looking for the defogger kit....also went to the Shack looking for a conductive pen. I'm giving up for now....maybe I'll try a couple other auto shops.

Welcome to the "other" side!

Seriously, I've done them both ways and have been successful with each method, I must be lucky.

If you can get the rear window repair kit, make sure that you get the right stuff. There are two products available. One is for repairing the wiring attachment to the grid and the other (the one that you want) is for repairing the traces themselves. If you can find a parts store that handles "Locktite" products, the part number of the stuff that you want is "15067".

I guess there's not much call for this stuff in Florida.

If you can't get it down there, let me know and I'll send you some.

By the way, those DURON 600's are great chips for overclocking.

[stompah]

Hey Shadow I have used 2 types of pencils on different CPUs and 3 different MBs

The most common I have used was an 'American' #2 and the other a harder to find and I have used it less often is 'Pentech' RubberWriter(has a rubbery coating on outside) #2


Look for those at your Office Max if you have problems locating a Defogger kit.

Oh yeah I have only had one bad pencil job... erased it and got it the second time.

[Shadow ÒÓ]

Thanks for all the input and offer guys, I'm done with it for a couple days since I'm out of town for the next 36 hours or so, but I'll see what I can find as soon as I get back!

[rogerdugans]

Glad to do what I can to help you stay on The Dark Side

Muwaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa!

[rogue1979]

I got a set of drawing pencils at Wal-Mart for about $3. The one labeled HB has unlocked 15 cpu's or so on the first try everytime.

[Munke]

hey hey...

i have tried the pencil trick with a regular HB lead pencil....working great...:p :) :cool: :beer:

[JFettig]

well the main problem is the ecs k7s5a board!! it has NO multiplier options!!!

i just built 2 computers with that board, it works great and stable!
but no multiplier, so whats the reason for unlocking it?

or do you have a golden socket?

[Newbie_Doo]

I think that newfangled graphite scribing device has exceeded ShadowÒÓ's technical expertise. :D

:p

[Ozzman]

i unlocked mine because i did not know and thought it would show up when unlocked BUT now that i know im going to sell this board and get maybe a iwill kk266 plus or plus r dont know if the raid is worth it...

[JFettig]

yea i cant get mine to unlock either!!!
could someone help! iv done the pencil trick like 5 times and it doesnt work!!!
and i have NO money!

[Ozzman]

the rewindow thing is 8 bucks and easly to remove with nail pollish remover.. go with that..

[JFettig]

i got it, the problem was that i needed to update my dragon bios to do this....

[UnseenMenace]

There is actually a modification that you can do to the k7s5a which will allow you to change the Vcore and multiplier.

The brave and foolish can check it out here (http://www.ocworkbench.com/hardware/elite/k7s5amod/k7s5amodp1.htm)

[Ozzman]

reminds me a bit of modding my playstation LOL

[JFettig]

i found that the cheapie roseart pencils work best!!! the #2 pencil, i made a line about 1/8inch long and tested the resistanc and it was like 2-3 and then when i closed my bridges the resistance was almost 0(because of the length)

a pic of what it looks like

[JFettig]

just fill in the gap, no more if possible!