my 2004-2008 Video Game Awards (PC/MAC/PS1/2/3/DS/etc)

[Theocnoob]

BEST GAME award:

First Place > Mass Effect
"The races of the galaxy call it Mass Effect"
(If you don't like Mass Effect, you're bad at it, you haven't given it a chance, or you're not well in the head)

Second Place > Doom 3

Third Place > GTA 4 (XBOX360 aka crash machine/PS3)

Honorable Mention > World in Conflict



BESTSIM:

BEST DRIVE SIM:

Gran Turismo 5

BEST FLIGHT SIM:

FSX


BIGGEST PIECE OF GARBAGE award:

Viva Pinata

Assassin's Creed

Half Life 2



MOST UNDERAPPRECIATED award:

Unreal Tournament III (Nobody plays it)


MOST POTENTIAL, WASTED ON A CONVOLUTED MESS:

Spore

Assassin's Creed


WORST CODING IN A GOOD GAME:

Battlefield 2

MOST OVERHYPED:

Gears Of War

The Orange Box

WORST SEQUEL:

Civilization 4 (Humor has no place in Civ)

"NEW" Super Mario Bros (NDS)

BEST CODING/ENGINE:

Unreal III engine

BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENTS:

Half Life 2

Star Craft 2

Spore

Call of Duty 4

[don'tknow]

I definitely 2nd the Best Engine and Most Underappreciated. UE3 runs extremely well for the graphics it gives, which are only really topped by the Crytek2 engine.. and that runs 5x slower.

UT3 by the way seems dead on PC because 99% of the playerbase is on consoles (sigh). And most of their servers have a 'no keyboard/mouse allowed' mod installed. Really stupid. A PC game should have stayed on the PC.

[ziggo0]

Sounds like you hate PC Gaming.

[jediobi1]

Sounds like you hate PC Gaming.

i was thinking the same thing since everyone knows both console players and pc gamers that OB and hl2 and gears of war etc were all good games really good i might add

[Shiggity]

starcraft 2 is a disapointment before its out?

[ziggo0]

starcraft 2 is a disapointment before its out?

Apparently waiting for a polished game when it hits is a bad thing...take HL2 for example...looked great, ran great, great story...only took Valve 6 years :)

[Leviathan41]

I stopped reading at "BIGGEST PIECE OF GARBAGE award: Half Life 2"

seriously?

[Jas]

I stopped reading at "BIGGEST PIECE OF GARBAGE award: Half Life 2"

seriously?

HL2 was Epic.

this awards list = :screwy:

[Theocnoob]

I stopped reading at "BIGGEST PIECE OF GARBAGE award: Half Life 2"

seriously?

I hated it. Dont know what else to tell you.

[Theocnoob]

starcraft 2 is a disapointment before its out?

Looks worse than even dawn of war (2004) and now they're saying its going to be 'easy' to play

[lordkosc]

try half life 2 with the cinematic mod, makes it alot better imho...

[redrumy3]

Sounds like you hate PC Gaming.
Agreed :screwy: :screwy: hl2 was awesome.. orange box was great as well...

(If you don't like HL2/OB, you're bad at it, you haven't given it a chance, or you're not well in the head)

[Leviathan41]

(If you don't like HL2/OB, you're bad at it, you haven't given it a chance, or you're not well in the head)
lol! :D

OK, ok, I guess it's conceivable that someone could not like EITHER HL2, Civ4, the OB, or COD4, but not liking any of them? Something has gone horribly wrong! :p

[freakdiablo]

this awards list = :screwy:

Hey, it's HIS awards list. He's the judge, jury, and awarder :)

[shard]

I thought mass effect blew. Felt cheap and unimaginitive. The setting and background rocked, just terrible story and writing.

In fact, I just disagree with your entire list. Except spore. That was bad.

[Firey_chasm]

Instead of just saying what I disagree on ill create my own list :)

BEST GAME award:

First Place > World of warcraft + expansions - no game has ever given me as many hours of enjoyment as this before and I doubt ever will again

Second Place > Call of duty 4

Third Place > half life saga (inc hl1+2+expansions+OB etc)

Honorable Mention > Crysis - many people hate it, personally I love the single player and played through it multiple times


BESTSIM:

-----I dont play sim games very much at all


BIGGEST PIECE OF GARBAGE award:

Assassin's Creed - I tend to avoid garbage games but this got me to rent it due to its hype, truly awful game

MOST UNDERAPPRECIATED award:

Unreal Tournament III (Nobody plays it)

MOST POTENTIAL, WASTED ON A CONVOLUTED MESS:

Assassin's Creed

WORST CODING IN A GOOD GAME:

n/a

MOST OVERHYPED:

Halo3 - very very average game simplistic and bland, yet hyped up to be fresh and exciting. This game gets my blood boiling every time I think of it for some reason due to the fact I cant comprehend why anyone would buy it.

Assasins creed

Sims 1 +2 fine average underlying concept but all the expansions drive me kinda nuts

WORST SEQUEL:

Tony hawk franchise - its got old

BEST CODING/ENGINE:

Unreal III engine

BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENTS:

Halo series - designed for simplistic console players needs

Age of conan - soooo much potential

quake 4 - 3 truely great games in this series then they released this :/

[zexmarquies01]

Edit.

I don't want to cause any arguments here. I'll just say that i really disagree with the OP here ( and not just because of the list of games ).

[Red_LightRanger]

I would agree with your good game /worst coding on BF2. Love the game, hate all the bugs.
Not too sure about your HL2 decisions. To say that HL2 is garbage, I mean HL was vital in the begining of FPS's, I think it deserves more than that.

[bobthemoo]

Errrrm, how dare you diss HL2 and the orange box

[Douken]

HL2 was Epic.

this awards list = :screwy:

Agree, one of the best games I've played is HL2.

Most hype... HALO
Spore, sucked, the part that I like the most (the 1st stage) is too short.
Best Flight Sim - X-Plane
Best Racing Game - Probably GRID, haven't played GT5 yet.
I have Mass Effect and I find it all right, but it sometimes get monotone, I'll say more when I finish it.
Need for Speed Most Wanted got me hooked up.
Oblivion was innovative in certain areas and it takes long to finish so that's good.
COD4 is flawless but I personally don't like it that much.
SINS of a Solar Empire is innovative and addictive so it's worth mentioning too.

[Morvak]

BEST GAME award:

First Place > Mass Effect
"The races of the galaxy call it Mass Effect"
(If you don't like Mass Effect, you're bad at it, you haven't given it a chance, or you're not well in the head)

Do you have to post like a fanboi? Just because someone doesn't like something YOU do ,doesn't mean they're bad at it, haven't given it a chance or not well in the head. Grow up.

Mass Affect excels at facial/model animations and cinematics. That's it. I'm not a sci-fi buff, I'll give you that, but I gave the game a chance. It's interesting, but the combat is clunky. The story is typical. And it's all based on combat. I don't even know how big the world is, but I'm not impressed. If I was, i wouldn't be playing 4 year old Vampire Bloodlines instead.

Second Place > Doom 3


ROFLMFAO! Surely you can't be serious!? ("I am serious, and don't call me Shirley."


BIGGEST PIECE OF GARBAGE award:

Assassin's Creed

Agree.

Half Life 2

OK, I'm going to use one of your lines - you my friend are the one that is not well in the head. Half Life 2 is great. I love it. The ending is kinda lame playing 3D pinball, but the rest of the game is just great. Story, atmosphere and gameplay.


MOST UNDERAPPRECIATED award:

Unreal Tournament III (Nobody plays it)

Hmm I wonder why.

MOST OVERHYPED:


The Orange Box

Wow. HL2, Portal and TF2 overhyped? Boy, you're sci-fi fanboi-ism is raging through in vibrant colors. Prepare to be flamed. I'll pray for you.


BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENTS:

Half Life 2

Gee, tell us how you REALLY feel about HL2.

[WonderingSoul]

I think the OP must not be a true PC gamer if he's hating on HL2 or OB...

Seriously, you're calling what most well known game reviewers, magazine editors and most of the whole gaming community consider one of the best games in exsistence terrible? For shame...

[Theocnoob]

I think the OP must not be a true PC gamer if he's hating on HL2 or OB...

Seriously, you're calling what most well known game reviewers, magazine editors and most of the whole gaming community consider one of the best games in exsistence terrible? For shame...

HL2 feels EXTREMELY forced to me. Does NOT feel like im IN the story. I don't like that.

OB was a joke because, what do I get? Another episode of Half Life, which I hate, PORTAL, which doesn't let me kill anything, and TF2, which I LOVE, but I'm not buying 3 games to get 1 (I waited for TF2 to be standalone and bought it)

I DO NOT hate PC gaming, I spend about five hours a day at it.

I simply have very specific tastes. When CIV 4 asks me if I wanna raze a city to the ground and the text is BURN BABY BURN that instantly turns a good game into a joke with its pants down to me.

Assassin's Creed is tomb raider, set two thousand years ago, and is the biggest joke on the planet...

I honestly have to stick with my list.

I picked SPORE because they tout it as this huge game. really its a cell mini game, which is fun, then a creature mini game, which is very shallow and less fun, then tribe and civ stages which are the most BASIC pathetic RTS jokes ever and shouldn't even be in there, then the REAL game, outer space, which has no beginning, middle, or end, and is painfully repetetive... to make it all worse the "GOD" at the center of the galaxy thinks he's a comedian.

COD4 is a great game, and if it had been called something OTHER than call of duty I'd love it-- but they took the excellent movement and shooting scheme from the COD franchise and made it WAY too tom clancy. If I can't pick up and keep going where I left off, its not a good sequel.

GEARS OF WAR is again potential for brilliance, just TOO repetative. "Didn't I just do something just like this 300 times? What? I beat it?" Great multiplayer though.

DOOM 3 is a masterpiece of scare the crapp out of you-ism. And, considering it was released in 2004, runs phenomenally well on hardware of the time. Very impressive stuff.

WORLD IN CONFLICT: Fantastic RTS, which has been hobbled, crippled, and retarded by a LOSER developer who didn't realize 1.0 was perfect and has since messed with the power and speed of every unit not to mention the particle effects etc... Result, LESS FUN.

I wanna sue over that last one...

So, I STAND BY MY LIST.

I can play PC games five hours a day and still hate half life 2. Its my choice. Its my money. Its my PC. Its my list :)

Oh, and PLEASE GO BUY UTIII and give it a chance!!

Once you get into it it is fantastic and you can find it for 12-20$ now.


And YES I DONT LIKE HL!!! 1 or 2!! Sorry!

Btw-- the combat in MASS EFFECT is clunky, but only until you get a hang of it. It relies on combining psychic freeze, pick up and throw, etc with actually shooting people. Once you get it, its as far away from cl unky as imaginable.

[TheGreySpectre]

I do like mass effect.

HL2 is one of my favorite games of all time.

I do agree Gears of war was overhyped, I didnt find it all that great.

I can agree with those who say Halo 3 was overhyped. Single player was short and mediocre, multiplayer had poor level design and too many weapons. overall it was a middle of the road FPS.

I disagree with you about Unreal 3, I thought it was a mediocre game,I have I played it, it kind of stunk so I stopped. Ut2k4 was better imo

Assassins creed was repatitive but enjoyable, not a great game but an enjoyable one. I do recognize that many people didnt like it, I am easy to amuse though by letting me jump around on rooftops.

I didnt like GTA4, I found it to be bland and boring compared to GTAVC

I really enjoy new super mario bros for my DS

Grand Turismo 5: isnt only the prologue out for this

I found doom 3 to be a piece of crappy game and one of the biggest disappoints I have had gaming wise in quite a while, sure the first 3 levels are cool but then you realise that all the game is is basicly those first 3 levels over and over and over again for another 30 times with a crappy boss that is a joke at the end (although the hell level was neat). The game become so predictable its rediculus, you see a piece of armor laying in the middle of the room and you walk upto it backwards so that you can shotgun the guy in the face when he spawns behind you.

I do agree BF2 was coded rather poorly and very buggy at release

Starcraft 2: how can you rate a game that doesnt have anything you can play yet

COD4: I can' really speak to this I have started to play it and it seems good, but I have not played it all that much

Portal: Did you actually play through the game? Its not about Killing things, or do you really need explosions and guns for something to be a great game to you? I found portal to be amazing and tons of fun, definatlly one of the better games of the last couple years.


Well you are entitled to your opinions Theocnoob, I disagree with you on almost every count.

[SteveLord]

Halflife 2 is a milestone in PC gaming just as HL1 was. Not debatable.

Doom3 was not scary. Seriously...the game is as predictable as Serious Sam was. Not debatable.

World in Conflict was a good idea, but was nothing special at all. I forgot the game even existed since no one talks of it anymore. Hence...its a hasbeen. It's flair was long overhyped and very shortlived. Blame the developer because they made patches for it? Poor case. Not debatable.

UT3. No one plays it. Probably because it's crap? Why would I buy a game that no one plays? This further decreases one's credibility.

[Codeman05]

I wouldn't classify HL2 as garbage, but I would say it was a little disappointing. I've actually thought episodes 1-2 were quite a bit better than the HL2. Maybe it was all the hype leading up to it that caused it to let me down.

I understand the above isn't exactly the popular consensus, but just my two cents. Of course I also enjoyed Doom 3, so maybe I just have no taste :D

[WonderingSoul]

PORTAL, which doesn't let me kill anything

Anyone else see a major problem here?

[Essenar]

Hmmm.

I loved Mass Effect, I think it's a great game, but deducing that people who don't like it are either not good at it or not right in the head? I can see how people won't like Mass Effect.

Half Life 2 = I think at times, it's a little too focused on running around solving stupid puzzles with steep punishment. Like you have to hop on blocks across a deep fall and if you miss a box, you die, reload and start over from the beginning of the boxes. It's also an easily cheated system because you can quick save after every hop and completely bypass the difficulty without skill. The combat is spread way too far apart and the enemy AI is garbage at shooting so you can just hide behind a box, pop out and spray and hide again. Unfortunately, it'll take you 48 shots to the chest and head to kill ONE man and ammunition is spread out so you better be a headshot genius. I do think that it's a decent game, but HL2 was more revolutionary because of how great the Source engine is.

Even after 4 years, the source engine looks great and plays great on low end systems. You can add physics to it, high res tectures, completely build a game off of it. I just think HL2 could've used more combat and more realistic shot registry/damage and less of the wanna be Doom 3 dark tunnels waiting for things to hop out of you type of game play. I can only play HL2 for maybe 30 minutes before I turn it off because I'm tired of running around throwing barrels at those ceiling tentacle things. That's all the game is for like 45 minutes. Running around in sewers dodging tentacles.

HL2 Episode 1 though, was fantastic.

[Theocnoob]

Anyone else see a major problem here?

Well its true isn't it???

[don'tknow]

Some of these questions were answered in my post, yet people still keep asking them.

As for Mass Effect... one thing that really prevents me from considering it as a 'best game' is that the side missions were the exact same map over and over, just located on different planets. Couldn't believe the developers were that lazy. And there's like... tons of side missions. The main storyline and dialogue choices were fun though.

[Satsumomo]

GT5 is not a racing sim. No.

Try GTR, RFactor, Live for Speed or Richard Burns Rally. Those are SIMS.

GT5 is great, but don't call it a racing sim please.

I have to differ with a lot of people here, UT3 is a great game, it is VERY balanced and it's fast good gameplay, it's problem is that it was released very closely to TF2 and COD4, which overshadowed it completely.

[shard]

Call me the odd one, but I enjoyed assasin's creed >.>

Heh, I like a lot of games, and hate very few.

[zexmarquies01]

Well its true isn't it???

yes, it's very true that portal doesn't let you kill anyone..

but since when does gaming require killing to be good?

Portal is a puzzle game. Simple as that. It was done very well.

[Codeman05]

GT5 is not a racing sim. No.

Try GTR, RFactor, Live for Speed or Richard Burns Rally. Those are SIMS.

GT5 is great, but don't call it a racing sim please.

I have to differ with a lot of people here, UT3 is a great game, it is VERY balanced and it's fast good gameplay, it's problem is that it was released very closely to TF2 and COD4, which overshadowed it completely.

I did enjoy UT3 and still play it a few times a week. What killed UT3 was the horrible multiplayer interface. Its like that was the last module they programmed and spent 30 minutes on it. They also should have kept Bombing Run...but that's just me ;)


Heh, I like a lot of games, and hate very few.
Yea I'm pretty similar, as long as I'm entertained and the game isn't buggy garbage (cought...far cry 2...cough cough), I usually enjoy it.

[Dak9767]

HL2 was Epic.

this awards list = :screwy:

I agree. HL2 was excellent.

[Tumnus]

You're lucky this board is so nice...

[Theocnoob]

but since when does gaming require killing to be good?



1987

[Theocnoob]

I did enjoy UT3 and still play it a few times a week. What killed UT3 was the horrible multiplayer interface. Its like that was the last module they programmed and spent 30 minutes on it. They also should have kept Bombing Run...but that's just me ;)



Yea I'm pretty similar, as long as I'm entertained and the game isn't buggy garbage (cought...far cry 2...cough cough), I usually enjoy it.

How is the multiplayer interface in UTIII horrible?

The only flaws I see in the game are that the new vehicles kind of suck, the game pace is too high given that its a very demanding engine and a mid range PC, even a year later, can't run it maxed out at that speed. Even on my reasonably decent system I have to allow a negative LOD bias and kill AF and transparancy AA to get the 80ish FPS I need to smoothly PWN people...

[FudgeNuggets]

Oh my, how is it that I have missed this thread until now?

BEST GAME award:

First Place > Mass Effect
"The races of the galaxy call it Mass Effect"
(If you don't like Mass Effect, you're bad at it, you haven't given it a chance, or you're not well in the head)

Fudgecomment: I too like the game and probably agree with it being GOTY, but aren't you being a bit biased here?


Second Place > Doom 3
Fudgecomment: Nope, didn't like it at all. I would probably go with hmmmmmm Saint's Row 2.


Third Place > GTA 4 (XBOX360 aka crash machine/PS3)
Fudgecomment: Crash machine? ugggh.... Don't like your candor here....... I think GTA4 was a sloppy and utterly disappointing game. I would vote for God of War: Chains of Olympus


Honorable Mention > World in Conflict



BESTSIM:

BEST DRIVE SIM:

Gran Turismo 5

Fudgecomment: NO NO NO NO NO and a THOUSAND times NO. It's not even out yet. You're talking about PROLOGUE which is a DEMO and I played it all the way through and would hardly consider it a sim. I'm voting for FORZA 2 here.


BEST FLIGHT SIM:

FSX



BIGGEST PIECE OF GARBAGE award:

Viva Pinata

Assassin's Creed

Half Life 2

Fudgecomment: Interesting choices. I know many people who liked all of the above. My votes would have to go to:

GTA4

Two Worlds

Fable 2



MOST UNDERAPPRECIATED award:

Unreal Tournament III (Nobody plays it)

Fudgecomment: Saints Row 2 for certain



MOST POTENTIAL, WASTED ON A CONVOLUTED MESS:

Spore

Assassin's Creed

No arguing Spore but I'm throwing in GTA4


WORST CODING IN A GOOD GAME:

Battlefield 2

MOST OVERHYPED:

Gears Of War

Fudgecomment: I'm tossing in Spore, Fable 2 and GTA4 here

The Orange Box

WORST SEQUEL:

Civilization 4 (Humor has no place in Civ)

"NEW" Super Mario Bros (NDS) Fudgecommet: WHAT? this was GREAT!

Also toss in GTA4 and Fable 2



BEST CODING/ENGINE:

Unreal III engine

BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENTS:

Half Life 2

Star Craft 2

Spore

Call of Duty 4 Fudgecomment: Again, I think you're crazy but also toss in Fable 2 and GTA4.

[Morvak]

Errrrm, how dare you diss HL2 and the orange box

I think the OP must not be a true PC gamer if he's hating on HL2 or OB...

Seriously, you're calling what most well known game reviewers, magazine editors and most of the whole gaming community consider one of the best games in exsistence terrible? For shame...

Halflife 2 is a milestone in PC gaming just as HL1 was. Not debatable.

Doom3 was not scary. Seriously...the game is as predictable as Serious Sam was. Not debatable.

World in Conflict was a good idea, but was nothing special at all. I forgot the game even existed since no one talks of it anymore. Hence...its a hasbeen. It's flair was long overhyped and very shortlived. Blame the developer because they made patches for it? Poor case. Not debatable.

UT3. No one plays it. Probably because it's crap? Why would I buy a game that no one plays? This further decreases one's credibility.

I agree. HL2 was excellent.

You're lucky this board is so nice...

[Brolloks]

Morvak, you sum it up very nicely, thanks :thup::beer:

[bluesugar]

BEST GAME award:

First Place > Mass Effect
"The races of the galaxy call it Mass Effect"
(If you don't like Mass Effect, you're bad at it, you haven't given it a chance, or you're not well in the head)

Second Place > Doom 3

Third Place > GTA 4 (XBOX360 aka crash machine/PS3)

Honorable Mention > World in Conflict



BESTSIM:

BEST DRIVE SIM:

Gran Turismo 5

BEST FLIGHT SIM:

FSX


BIGGEST PIECE OF GARBAGE award:

Viva Pinata

Assassin's Creed

Half Life 2



MOST UNDERAPPRECIATED award:

Unreal Tournament III (Nobody plays it)


MOST POTENTIAL, WASTED ON A CONVOLUTED MESS:

Spore

Assassin's Creed


WORST CODING IN A GOOD GAME:

Battlefield 2

MOST OVERHYPED:

Gears Of War

The Orange Box

WORST SEQUEL:

Civilization 4 (Humor has no place in Civ)

"NEW" Super Mario Bros (NDS)

BEST CODING/ENGINE:

Unreal III engine

BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENTS:

Half Life 2

Star Craft 2

Spore

Call of Duty 4

Who are you?

[kellygtp]

This list has me more confused than a wood pecker in a concrete jungle.

COD4 a disappointment??

SC2 isnt even out, how can you judge it???

[freakdiablo]

Who are you?

He be theocnoob. He can has opinion?

[Red_LightRanger]

He be theocnoob. He can has opinion?

i agree, so what if he has some differing opinions. I think people forgot these are not real awards :screwy:

maybe he just wanted to stir thing up in the oc forums!

[Firey_chasm]

i agree, so what if he has some differing opinions. I think people forgot these are not real awards :screwy:

maybe he just wanted to stir thing up in the oc forums!

or maybe he really didnt like HL2 :)

although I dunno how he can have an opinion on SC2 yet :/

I know if I post on xbox forums how disapointing Halo series is I get my head bitten off yet here it seems quite common for people not to be thrilled with it

[SteveLord]

i agree, so what if he has some differing opinions. I think people forgot these are not real awards :screwy:

maybe he just wanted to stir thing up in the oc forums!

Opinions are one thing. Opinions that make no sense are another. And several of them have been pointed out.

[FudgeNuggets]

It is my opinion that the Earth is a cube floating in a viscous liquid that will be consumed by the evil Lord Numbnuts through a straw.

[bluesugar]

He be theocnoob. He can has opinion?

Oh lol I agree, I just think it is funny when people post stuff like this on forums. When my 2008 game awards are ready and compiled I will email President Elect Barack Obama, I'm sure he will be interested in my findings. :screwy:

[OldSkool]

I'm just going to say that we obviously have way different tastes in gaming. I disagree with a good number of your selections.

[TheGreySpectre]

While I personally loved HL2 and hated Doom3. If you guys remember back to 2004, we did have a couple people who liked doom 3 better than HL2...not many, but there were some.

[Theocnoob]

While I personally loved HL2 and hated Doom3. If you guys remember back to 2004, we did have a couple people who liked doom 3 better than HL2...not many, but there were some.

I should have been more specific.

If some guy walks up to me in a game, and its not thoroughly engrossing (see, mass effect), I want to shoot the guy in the face.

HL2 featured too much people talking to me, being insufficiently engrossing, and not letting me shoot them in the face. Hence, I disliked it. Also, as a movie buff, I found HL2's attempt at a very thorough story and character development flawed, from a haughty taughty upturned nose movie snob point of view.

Mass effect knows its a corny sci-fi game, and it tries to be the best corny sci-fi it can- but it doesn't try to be anything else. HL2 just TRIES to hard and the gameplay feels forced--- that's just me. I hated the original HL also.

Doom 3, I like, because I only really have to talk to anybody for the first 15 minutes. After that odds are I can shoot everyone else, blow them up, etc, and its just a lot more engrossing.

I get drawn in a lot more by creepy mood lighting and eight eyed monsters blowing through walls and trying to set me on fire than I do by trying to navigate some epic movie I'm playing in.

To this extent, Mass Effect actually bothered me a lot but I think it has enough redeeming qualities that I super loved it anyways.

In the end, this is just my preferences. A lot of people like Viva Pinata. A lot of people hate Doom 3. A lot of people like Half Life.

A lot of people like Portal.

Portal makes me ask "When am I going to shoot something".

Moving along:

I was planning to get GTA4. Iv'e never played it. I played 3, VC, and san andreas.

I beat them all. VC was a rushed piece of unchallenging trash. The other two were great.

So, I'm concerned. Please explain GTA4's crappyness. I may choose not go buy it.

[Red_LightRanger]

Opinions are one thing. Opinions that make no sense are another. And several of them have been pointed out.

right, thats why i said i figured he was trying to stir things up. Just like what Firey said about posting crap on Halo in the xbox forums.

[Theocnoob]

right, thats why i said i figured he was trying to stir things up. Just like what Firey said about posting crap on Halo in the xbox forums.

Nope never wanted to stir things up. Just 'these are the games I liked"

"These are the games I was told I would like and did, told I was did and did not, amped games I disliked, etc"

Keyword: I.

A lot of people love playing pure RPG's and puzzle games. I don't. Some people hate first person shooters. I find them very entertaining.

Again, the keyword to all of this was MY

and I'm far too unimportant for said my to rollover into our, your, the, supreme list, how it is, whatever.

Call my opinions crazy if you want.

I think Viva Pinata is a severe and vivid trip on some sort of hallucinagen that hasn't even been invented yet- and its a really bad trip.

Some people love it.

And that's fantastic. Its our differing preferences which produce the variety of content available.

While we're all still here I'd still like this answered



I was planning to get GTA4. Iv'e never played it. I played 3, VC, and san andreas.

I beat them all. VC was a rushed piece of unchallenging trash. The other two were great.

So, I'm concerned. Please explain GTA4's crappyness. I may choose not go buy it.

[SteveLord]

Yeah, I will call it crazy (to say the least) when you say things about games not even out yet or don't like Portal because you don't kill anything in it..."because any games since 1987" have to have that to be good.

Because of things like that your credibility = CRAP in my eyes and many others who have pointed these out. I've seen well thought out unfavorable reviews of these games, but yours was far from it. The confusion in the posts that followed was very obvious.

[don'tknow]

Anyway you shouldn't care too much what the majority thinks. I disagree with a lot of that list but I don't care, it's just games and won't affect anyone either way.

I generally hate TV. Almost everything on it is completely pointless and 'tarded. And brainwashes too many people into becoming 'tards. There's some shows/series and documentaries which I like and watch online. Realistically, nobody cares and nobody is hurt by my opinion.

(No comment on GTA4)

[Satsumomo]

I really liked GTA IV, also the euphoria physics make it fun to play. People hated it because it wasn't as wacky as previous versions, this time it was more realistic and it has a "sad" storyline.

[Alien1099]

BEST GAME award:

First Place > Mass Effect
"The races of the galaxy call it Mass Effect"
(If you don't like Mass Effect, you're bad at it, you haven't given it a chance, or you're not well in the head)
SNIP
Your list kinda sucks brew.

Mass effect is a great game, but the story is almost directly ripped off of Star Control 3. Seeing as though it's a STORY driven game, it loses a lot of points although it is a good game in its own right. One of the better ones in recent years, but not the best. It's fairly repetitive and reuses the same environments over and over again.

Unreal 3 engine has the best coding/engine? Unreal 3 = everything looks like plastic and fake in most games. Crysis had a far more advanced engine, and was not the inefficient unoptimized piece of trash that so many people like to talk about as if they know a thing about coding a 3D game engine.

Call of Duty 4 was awesome.

Doom 3 was mediocre and repetitive as hell.

While I'm not Half-Life 2 kool-aid drinker, it was a ****ing awesome game and your list loses all credibility with saying it was the biggest piece of garbage of the year.

Assassin's Creed was ok. Not great. Not terrible.

Orange Box was overhyped, but portal was awesome.

Portal is a puzzle game with a "FPS" style interface. That doesn't mean you need to shoot people. Perhaps we need to make Rubic's Cubes more violet with spikes and gun barrles and ****? I mean afterall it is a handheld device... and some hand held devices are weapons! Just in case you didn't understand the first time, it's a PUZZLE GAME, not a SHOOTER. Just because it's first person perspective doesn't mean it needs to be a shoot'em up.

"Yeah man I'm sitting here playing with this Rubic's Cube and I'm thinking to myself, when the hell am I going to be able to shoot something with it!"

Episode 2 was also great, although I didn't care for TF2.

[FudgeNuggets]

I really liked GTA IV, also the euphoria physics make it fun to play. People hated it because it wasn't as wacky as previous versions, this time it was more realistic and it has a "sad" storyline.

Um no... not "sad".... try wishy washy, contradictory, paper thin and scatterbrained.

[Theocnoob]

Your list kinda sucks brew.

Mass effect is a great game, but the story is almost directly ripped off of Star Control 3. Seeing as though it's a STORY driven game, it loses a lot of points although it is a good game in its own right. One of the better ones in recent years, but not the best. It's fairly repetitive and reuses the same environments over and over again.

Unreal 3 engine has the best coding/engine? Unreal 3 = everything looks like plastic and fake in most games. Crysis had a far more advanced engine, and was not the inefficient unoptimized piece of trash that so many people like to talk about as if they know a thing about coding a 3D game engine.

Am I the only one here who is aware that we're just throwing around opinions?

Yes Crysis was a great engine. UT3 runs better on a lamer machine was my only point. Its the fastest most 'bang for buck' engine. That's what I meant. Realism wise and capacity wise ya the Crysis engine can rip it. And nothing makes stuff look fake and plastic better than UTIII

Call of Duty 4 was awesome.

Doom 3 was mediocre and repetitive as hell.

While I'm not Half-Life 2 kool-aid drinker, it was a ****ing awesome game and your list loses all credibility with saying it was the biggest piece of garbage of the year.

Assassin's Creed was ok. Not great. Not terrible.

Orange Box was overhyped, but portal was awesome.

Portal is a puzzle game with a "FPS" style interface. That doesn't mean you need to shoot people. Perhaps we need to make Rubic's Cubes more violet with spikes and gun barrles and ****? I mean afterall it is a handheld device... and some hand held devices are weapons! Just in case you didn't understand the first time, it's a PUZZLE GAME, not a SHOOTER. Just because it's first person perspective doesn't mean it needs to be a shoot'em up.

"Yeah man I'm sitting here playing with this Rubic's Cube and I'm thinking to myself, when the hell am I going to be able to shoot something with it!"

My point exactly

Episode 2 was also great, although I didn't care for TF2.

Im the opposite. again. Opinions.