OCF 8G of ram thread!

[Mr.Guvernment]

Okay, well today i got my other 4G of Patriot Viper 4G kit, i had 4G already (the 4G of corsair i had went inot my htpc)

With the price of DD2 being so cheap, i figured, why not get 8G, i also planned to mess with some VM's and i hate being limited on my computer so i thought WHY not...

4G was nice and all but at times i had hit almost 3.5G.. i tend to be one of those people who games and also has many other things running, i alt+tab out alot between rounds or deaths and do other things, so nice to not worry about speed to get back into a game...


My other system specs

DFI x38 T2R Dk
Q6600 @ 2.8 (i had it at 3Ghz but had some issues, and anything above 3.2 i need alot of volts...i just havent had time to tweak this DFI board)
VisionTek 4850



So, who else has 8G... and more important... Why?

Do you use more then 4G+?

Alot of people say 8G is overkill..

now that i have 8G i cant wait to give photoshop %50 of my ram! see how well it flies when working with 30MB raw files from my canon 40D!

[OldSkool]

I've got 8gb of OCZ and I'm loving it. It's nice to not have to worry about how much ram I have used or left. I basically upgraded both of my systems, the Q6600 rig and the E8400 gaming rig, to 8gb each. I figure for $200 why not.

[thideras]

Thideras does.

Copied from sig:

Asus P5Q Deluxe | QX9650 | 8gb GSkill 1000MHz | 9800GTX | 5 TB

Dragon 830 Stacker (http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=5778345&postcount=153) | HX620W | 2x BenQ G2400W
I use it...well, because I can, 70/set is nothing. I can load up WoW, render a movie, listen to music, compress previously rendered movies (that takes up 4gb itself), use Photoshop, chat, and browse OCF...AT THE SAME TIME. This is without affecting gameplay, render time or swapping to the disk.


That is what you call "win".



EDIT: I've also loaded up 100+ "raw" (camera doesn't do raw :() images straight from the camera, didn't even flinch.

[Mr.Guvernment]

yup, i put in my other 4G then loaded vista Ultimate... i kept the sidebar open, added some gadget which i always disable usually... and is like... ram usage,,, what ever,,.

Right now when i took this screen shot i have running


Winamp with a streaming station from www.di.fm @ 96Kb
TF2 minimized
IE 8 Beta with 2 tabs open
Trillian with 4 accounts
Msn live messenger logged in
Task manager running
ATI CCC open in advance mode
MS Paint
Xfire
Vista Ultimate with no services disabled...


normally i would be like dam!!! 3.5G used! better kill some things to be safe! now i am like, what ever!

[aja]

Thideras does.

Copied from sig:

I use it...well, because I can, 70/set is nothing. I can load up WoW, render a movie, listen to music, compress previously rendered movies (that takes up 4gb itself), use Photoshop, chat, and browse OCF...AT THE SAME TIME. This is without affecting gameplay, render time or swapping to the disk.


That is what you call "win".



EDIT: I've also loaded up 100+ "raw" (camera doesn't do raw :() images straight from the camera, didn't even flinch.

I like how you say browse OCF. Like that is all you browse on the internet!

Not that I doubt you :p

P.S. I have 4GB, hope to upgrade to 8GB soon. I do CAD and MATLAB stuff, also VMware.

I don't play games. Overclocking is the game.

[nightelph]

I 'only' have 4gb, currently, but I'd like to add that loading 64bit vista and going to 4gb was a HUGE performance bump over 2gb with 32bit. Vista64 loves it. Did any of you notice another bump going to 8gb, or is the benefit more useful for multitasking and engineering apps? I have four monitors so I usually have lots of things running. :)

[mgoode]

I have been running 8gb of ram for awhile http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=519277

I had them up to 590mhz/ddr2 1180 - check link in sig.


I run a software C#/Java development shop so I run Visual Studio, Eclipse and SQl server on my rig. The extra memeory helps tremendously and I got some really good sticks from Mushkin. I plan to run 12gb when my Core i7 setup gets here:)

[Badbonji]

But soon people will have 12gb and even more with tri channel ddr3 and core i7

[Zhut]

At this time I only use 4 gigs of ram but I can run short when I run multiple everquest sessions. (I log in a few of my friends characters and play 3 or 4 at a time, even when playing with other people its nice to bring additional "free" outside firepower. I have access to 6 characters which I would need 8+ gigs for, even then it is pushing it, supposedly. So playing a few characters at a time, having a quest guide up or another website or 2 and the ram goes fast. Whatever my 4gigs is in xp, technically, I can use up quickly under these conditions, I certainly give my old rig in sig a good workout im sure. I will surely go with 8 gigs when I build next, hopefully in a couple of months. just my 2 cents.

[aja]

At this time I only use 4 gigs of ram but I can run short when I run multiple everquest sessions. (I log in a few of my friends characters and play 3 or 4 at a time, even when playing with other people its nice to bring additional "free" outside firepower. I have access to 6 characters which I would need 8+ gigs for, even then it is pushing it, supposedly. So playing a few characters at a time, having a quest guide up or another website or 2 and the ram goes fast. Whatever my 4gigs is in xp, technically, I can use up quickly under these conditions, I certainly give my old rig in sig a good workout im sure. I will surely go with 8 gigs when I build next, hopefully in a couple of months. just my 2 cents.

I know what you mean - geforce 6600 :D



I wonder if one can disable the pagefile with 8gigs installed. Disabling it with 4gigs gives me a slowdown...

[terran2k]

I have 8gigs on virtual machine server, used up about 5.5GBs. I have 4GB on my main PC, haven't used up all of that memory yet. it's usually just about 1 to 1.5GB used, the rest is cache. If I see some cheap DDR2, I may or may not get it. just to up both to 8GB.

[Mr.Guvernment]

i am liking this 8G, vista is using 2.86G now on boot since installing lots of programs and stuff and things sure are smooth!

[+sYnc3+]

when using 8gigs of ram..what are ur voltage set in the mch? do you have to do any tweaking for it to run stable or is it good to go out the box?..i tried to go up to 6 gigs..but whenever i ran memtest it failed..only the 4 gigs ran smoothly..could that be because of stress on the mch..or that i cant mix 2x2gig of dominator and 2x1 gig of dominator both 1066..

[Mr.Guvernment]

i just stuck it in and off it went, didnt change anything, everything is on auto in the bios so it should be running at 2.1 for the ram. i want to set it manually as this ram is supposed to run at 4-4-4-12 it is the Patriot Viper series DDR2-800.

[moto211]

I know what you mean - geforce 6600 :D



I wonder if one can disable the pagefile with 8gigs installed. Disabling it with 4gigs gives me a slowdown...

From what I have read, you shouldn't disable the page file regardless of how much RAM you have. If I remember correctly, the reasoning was that the functionality of some programs depends upon the existince of a page file and that all other programs won't use it unless there isn't enough free RAM. So, it would be pointless and possibly performance degrading to disable it.

[aja]

From what I have read, you shouldn't disable the page file regardless of how much RAM you have. If I remember correctly, the reasoning was that the functionality of some programs depends upon the existince of a page file and that all other programs won't use it unless there isn't enough free RAM. So, it would be pointless and possibly performance degrading to disable it.

Then I guess the best option is to create a virtual ramdisk in the memory and to set that as the pagefile

[Mr.Guvernment]

That does work as well.

[Mr.Guvernment]

okay i def love 8G!

right now i have

1. trillian running with 2 msn accounts
2. msn messenger with my work accont
3. NEtop remote control open connected to a system in canada
4. Xfire
5. Steam and TF2 minimized
6. Vmware installing ubuntu 8.10
7 Nero burning a DVD
8.IE 8 Beta open with 9 tabs open
9. IE 8 beta seperate one open with a streaming radio station
10. BOINC running
11. Damon tools on with the mounted ubuntu image

and using 4.35 G of ram, this is a record for me so far! but the system is still dam response! only %9 CPu usage on my q6600 @ 2.8 (3ghz giving me trouble)

[Ducatti]

8GB OCZ Fatal1ty, because it was barely over 100 bucks...
Vista 64 does hum right along on my rig...

[thegreek]

do you guys use 4 x 2GB or 2 x 4GB

[OldSkool]

4X2 here, I have 4 slots slots so why not. Plus if one stick dies, I only lose 2gb ;)

[Ducatti]

4 2GB sticks

[UglyChild]

I run VMware server on my computer for testing purposes, and that alone can eat up a whole lot of RAM. Thus 8GB of RAM comes in handy.

[zalophus]

Anyone experienced this problem?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888575

[OldSkool]

Nope, I accidentally put my computer into hibernate the one day, lol. I don't use that feature anyway though so whatever.

[eva2000]

Okay, well today i got my other 4G of Patriot Viper 4G kit, i had 4G already (the 4G of corsair i had went inot my htpc)

With the price of DD2 being so cheap, i figured, why not get 8G, i also planned to mess with some VM's and i hate being limited on my computer so i thought WHY not...

4G was nice and all but at times i had hit almost 3.5G.. i tend to be one of those people who games and also has many other things running, i alt+tab out alot between rounds or deaths and do other things, so nice to not worry about speed to get back into a game...


My other system specs

DFI x38 T2R Dk
Q6600 @ 2.8 (i had it at 3Ghz but had some issues, and anything above 3.2 i need alot of volts...i just havent had time to tweak this DFI board)
VisionTek 4850



So, who else has 8G... and more important... Why?

Do you use more then 4G+?

Alot of people say 8G is overkill..

now that i have 8G i cant wait to give photoshop %50 of my ram! see how well it flies when working with 30MB raw files from my canon 40D!
this thread looks familiar :)

4GB Mushkin Ascent XP2-8500
+
4GB Mushkin XP2-8500 (http://i4memory.com/99722-post5.html)

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/memory/mushkin/ddr2/4gb/ascent_xp2/mushkin_ascent_xp2_8500.jpg

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/memory/mushkin/ddr2/4gb/ascent_xp2/mushkin_xp2_8500.jpg

why ? have you seen how much memory is taken by 2x 1GB video cards ?

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_DK_X48T2RSB_Plus/results/fuzion/E8600_Q820A599_0464/mushkin/8gb_ascent8500_xp28500/8.5x/333_667/530_530_55515_trd9_trfc72_1.3875_1.51_2.1_1.579_1. 38_800ps100ps_1155/4870x2cf/3dmarkvantage_837985_17123.png (http://i4memory.com/99722-post5.html)

[Mr.Guvernment]

well after using *g for a while now, i often find myself using over 5G with normal usage, i still had a habiit of closing programs when i was done, but now i leave my rig on oftena nd leave programs open as i got plenty of ram to spare!

[rseven]

There will be a meeting of Ramaholics Anonymous at Mr. Government's Costa Rican Villa on this Friday night. Bring refreshments! :bday:

(Sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself.)

R7 :beer:

[Mr.Guvernment]

AHHAHA

dam now i got to clean my place! I only have 2 couches so dibs who who ever calls em first, or brings the most liqor with em!

[OldSkool]

Dibs! What should I bring Mr. G?

Haha, I seriously will never go back to less than 8Gb now that I'm jumped to it. Especially as a Vista 64 user.

[james169]

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I 'only' have 4gb, currently, but I'd like to add that loading 64bit vista and going to 4gb was a HUGE performance bump over 2gb with 32bit. Vista64 loves it. Did any of you notice another bump going to 8gb, or is the benefit more useful for multitasking and engineering apps? I have four monitors so I usually have lots of things running

[Mr.Guvernment]

for me going to 8G didnt really improve vista or windows 7, they still both only used about 1G at initial; boot and now only use about 1.3g on a reboot.

what i did notice is things like alt+tsab out of steam games is dam fast!, and being able to open a crap load of things is great!

if you run alot of apps - 8G will be awsome.

[Atlehunekonge]

Never going back...

I got 4x2GB, filling up all my slots on my IP35-Pro
Running Vista 64-Home premium.

No difference for gaming, but for superfetch and Visa apps, much better.
NB, may be harder to OC with 8GB....

[Mr.Guvernment]

ya but how much harder to OC, i would like to see a comparison of a max OV with 4G vs 8G from people..... really, once you hit a certain point will 100-200mhz really kill your performance vs what you can gain from more ram.

[DarkFury]

if you usually try to hit high ram clock speeds you have to lower your timings = in turn decreases performance slightly.

i dont think its really the ram problem , its more of the NB being unstable due to the extra ram... and trying to keep them all in sync at high speeds.

all this ram talk is kind of making me sad that my cherry sticks of ram died. lol

they were 800Mhz Crucials i pushed to 1200mhz @ 2.0v ( they are rated @ 2.2v lol)

[Dodgexander]

I have 8GB running in my rig but get the occational reset loop problem sometimes when I restart. It causes problems and ive been trying to work out why. Annoying thing being ive been unable to repeat the errors!

[Nebulous]

8gb (4x2gb sticks) GSkill. Not 1 single problem running Vista Ultimate x64. No lag/delay of progs. Chip is oc'ed to 4.2Ghz( 8.5x500, 1:1), but ram is running default speed (DDR2-1000).

I'm happy :cool:

[Dodgexander]

8gb (4x2gb sticks) GSkill. Not 1 single problem running Vista Ultimate x64. No lag/delay of progs. Chip is oc'ed to 4.2Ghz( 8.5x500, 1:1), but ram is running default speed (DDR2-1000).

I'm happy :cool:

Do you have also the PQ's? Or different ones? What advance timings do you have set?

[Nebulous]

Do you have also the PQ's? Or different ones? What advance timings do you have set?

Yeah I have the PQ's These (http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/view.php?id=g_ddr2&page=4&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=105)

I did'nt set the advance timings yet. I just swapped out my OCZ's and cleared the bios. Set timings to 5-5-5-15. Ramped up the FSB to 500 and multi to 8.5. Set my voltages to 1.33v Cpu and 2.1v for the ram. Everything else is AUTO (Default).

Rig booted right up. Ran prime and everest benchmarks. Not 1 single hiccup.

I don't have time right now to play with anything else, but when I get back I'll fool around and see what these can do.

[GTengineer]

yup, i put in my other 4G then loaded vista Ultimate... i kept the sidebar open, added some gadget which i always disable usually... and is like... ram usage,,, what ever,,.

Right now when i took this screen shot i have running


Winamp with a streaming station from www.di.fm @ 96Kb
TF2 minimized
IE 8 Beta with 2 tabs open
Trillian with 4 accounts
Msn live messenger logged in
Task manager running
ATI CCC open in advance mode
MS Paint
Xfire
Vista Ultimate with no services disabled...


normally i would be like dam!!! 3.5G used! better kill some things to be safe! now i am like, what ever!

Everybody looks at the memory used. But what they should be looking at is the "cached" memory (6.X GB in your case). That's the beauty of superfetch. Games / new maps, and a LOT of other apps will load much faster since they are already on RAM.

[Blkout]

ya but how much harder to OC, i would like to see a comparison of a max OV with 4G vs 8G from people..... really, once you hit a certain point will 100-200mhz really kill your performance vs what you can gain from more ram.

It's a little harder on the northbridge and CPU when you use 8GB. Depending on the quality of the motherboard, it may or may not hold your CPU clocks back much. My ABIT IP35 Pro doesn't seem to like running 8GB at any speed above 1000MHz. With 4GB, it will over 1000MHz without any issue. Fortunately my E8400 tops out around 4.3GHz which gives me a 478MHz FSB and the memory is only running at 956MHz which works out just fine.

[Mr.Guvernment]

Everybody looks at the memory used. But what they should be looking at is the "cached" memory (6.X GB in your case). That's the beauty of superfetch. Games / new maps, and a LOT of other apps will load much faster since they are already on RAM.

AHHH that is good to know!

i now have my *g of Corsair Dominator 1066, so now i can really try to push my 9650 :)