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SynGamer
11-13-08, 12:19 AM
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx

Release Notes (https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/gamesite/Catalyst_811_release_notes.pdf)

watchthisspace
11-13-08, 12:22 AM
Second that ^

vixro
11-13-08, 12:45 AM
FarCry 2 – performance gains of 3 to 10% for Single card mode and 8 to 14% in
Crossfire mode, with some specific configurations showing even greater improvements.
Performance gains were noticed on all Radeon HD4xxx and Radeon
HD3xxx products.

MooMasster716
11-13-08, 01:01 AM
Ati is really stepping up their Driver release game.

Blazing fire
11-13-08, 01:19 AM
I'll like to hear what performance improvements you guys are getting with this new driver.

vixro (http://www.ocforums.com/member.php?u=42939), thanks for sharing!

edit- Is this new? http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_overdrive.aspx?p=1 Is it reliable?

SeanBest
11-13-08, 01:25 AM
Hmm ... no linux 8.11 yet, hopefully soon, really want fan control in linux, can't even run linux on my main rig with CrossFireX, cards only run at like 15% fan in linux and idle wayyyy too hot for me.

Blazing fire
11-13-08, 02:07 AM
I'm experiencing shuttering every 2 sec interval in team fortress 2.

bluto05
11-13-08, 10:41 AM
I don't have any shuttering problems in TF2, the only problem I'm having with 8.11's is Rivatuner 2.11 doesn't work with them :(

Ric2L
11-13-08, 11:38 AM
Rivatuner works fine on my 3870's with 8.11

OnDborder
11-13-08, 12:24 PM
No problem in Doom3.
Seems like a keeper, so far.

metloaf
11-13-08, 12:27 PM
Nice, thanks for the post. I will download it as soon as I get home.

Super Nade
11-13-08, 12:35 PM
Any compelling reason to switch from 8.9 ? :)

White_Pawn
11-13-08, 12:48 PM
have they fixed the fan problem yet? LOL

Pntgrd
11-13-08, 12:54 PM
Any compelling reason to switch from 8.9 ? :)
Huhhh? Since when do you need a "compelling reason" to switch drivers? This is after all, an enthusiest site. Isn't the remote chance of possibly one more fps compelling enough to do it? :santa: :beer: :santa:

Bon3thugz43v3r
11-13-08, 02:32 PM
Welp, running Vista 32 Bit Home Premium here. Went to 8.11's from 8.10 hotfix drivers and now in Far Cry 2 I am getting random game crashes (game just shuts off in the middle of the action, no error messages). Going back to 8.10 hotfixes for now.

btaylor1117
11-13-08, 02:36 PM
Anyone find a way to update drivers without reinstalling windows? I haven't been able to upgrade a single driver cleanly without reinstalling windows and i'm already running into problems with cd-keys becoming invalid. I have drivercleaner.net which causes me to get the "INF file missing" error. Anyone have a reliable way to update drivers?

ziggo0
11-13-08, 02:43 PM
Well I installed these...got a BSOD on reboot...BSOD on setting clocks...BSOD on disabling Crossfire...so...lol. My x38 comes today, I'll get back about them then.

OldSkool
11-13-08, 02:54 PM
Wow, glad I stuck with 8.8

MadMan007
11-13-08, 03:01 PM
Anyone find a way to update drivers without reinstalling windows? I haven't been able to upgrade a single driver cleanly without reinstalling windows and i'm already running into problems with cd-keys becoming invalid. I have drivercleaner.net which causes me to get the "INF file missing" error. Anyone have a reliable way to update drivers?

I've never had a problem changing drivers after using Drivercleaner.net (I hate to ask but have to - you don't have to answer - is your Drivercleaner.net a legit license?) Make sure before going in to safe mode you uninstall previous drivers in regular mode and also update Drivercleaner. I also choose ALL of a company's filters when removing them even if I know they aren't really installed.

I've switched back and forth from NV to ATi and done different ATi drivers and never ran in to that problem and rarely had problems at all, only maybe ones that are noted in the driver release notes. What OS are you using?

watchthisspace
11-13-08, 04:23 PM
Overclocking seems like a no-no for me as it always causes the VPU recovery to pop up when playing games :(

ziggo0
11-13-08, 04:51 PM
I think I'm going to stick with 8.10 on this one...took me 2 hours to get my Windows back, even then everything was messed up.

MadMan007
11-13-08, 06:23 PM
lol Ziggo0, don't take this the wrong way, but when I read took me 2 hours to get my Windows back I thought 'Wow that's sounds like some technonoob talking about their computer.'

'What's the problem?'
'My Windows went away.' :D

Blazing fire
11-13-08, 06:28 PM
I'm experiencing shuttering every 2 sec interval in team fortress 2.

Stopped after the next restart :confused:. Thank god for that!

I've never had a problem changing drivers after using Drivercleaner.net (I hate to ask but have to - you don't have to answer - is your Drivercleaner.net a legit license?) Make sure before going in to safe mode you uninstall previous drivers in regular mode and also update Drivercleaner. I also choose ALL of a company's filters when removing them even if I know they aren't really installed.

I've switched back and forth from NV to ATi and done different ATi drivers and never ran in to that problem and rarely had problems at all, only maybe ones that are noted in the driver release notes. What OS are you using?

I don't use drivercleaner. For my xp home 32bit, I accidentally went into "normal" boot and reinstalled the 8.11 (from 8.10). Works fine for me. I did safe mode for vista 32bit and works fine too.

MakubeX
11-13-08, 08:16 PM
Awh man, and I just calibrated my monitor!

Wish I had seen this thread before. :o

Blazing fire
11-13-08, 09:59 PM
I believe you could just download the 8.11 display driver. In that way, you're CCC settings would remain the same.

glock19owner
11-13-08, 10:21 PM
Anyone else notice this or have the same issue...fan not running 100%...

White_Pawn
11-13-08, 10:24 PM
and thus... the continuation of the fan speed problem...

redrumy3
11-13-08, 11:10 PM
Anyone else notice this or have the same issue...fan not running 100%...
need to have ati overdrive enabled as well and it will detect it right

prime81
11-14-08, 12:00 AM
Anyone else notice this or have the same issue...fan not running 100%...

If you have rivatuner running to adjust fan speeds or did in the past this will cause read errors. There is a popup that rivatuner asks when u set fanspeed manually if the videocard is at idle. I would say this could be a logical explanation to what your seeing.

Mr.Guvernment
11-14-08, 12:12 AM
Any compelling reason to switch from 8.9 ? :)

fan control was added in 8.10 for cards :d

glock19owner
11-14-08, 12:15 AM
need to have ati overdrive enabled as well and it will detect it right

That doesnt work either...fan still only runs at 65%...drop back down to the 8.10's and I have 100% on fan speed...

Also...my card is BIOS Modded where the fan is set at 100% in the BIOS...the 8.11's drop the fan speed as soon CCC starts up...

Either way not a good thing..card runs 10c hotter at idle with the latest drivers for me at least...

Bottomsup
11-14-08, 12:22 AM
Since they claim FC2 improvements I decided to run some tests with the FC2 benchmarking tool. All of these are based on 3 loop Ranch Small (The default benchmark). Res 1680x1050. Machine specs in sig. Here are the results. Seems that 8.11 is slower at higher AA than 8.10 + HF?

I tried to hit a few different resolutions but didn't do much with DX9. I can if you are interested.

8.10 + FC2 Hotfix on the Top (Blue) and 8.11 On The Bottom (Red)

Optimal Stock 4850 4xAA DX10

* Average Framerate: 33.91
* Max. Framerate: 55.76
* Min. Framerate: 22.70

* Average Framerate: 29.55
* Max. Framerate: 44.94
* Min. Framerate: 21.71


Optimal Stock 4850 2xAA DX10

* Average Framerate: 45.15
* Max. Framerate: 61.44
* Min. Framerate: 33.18

* Average Framerate: 43.17
* Max. Framerate: 61.94
* Min. Framerate: 31.24

Optimal Stock 4850 0xAA DX10

* Average Framerate: 48.87
* Max. Framerate: 72.24
* Min. Framerate: 35.02

* Average Framerate: 49.13
* Max. Framerate: 70.56
* Min. Framerate: 35.35

Optimal Stock 4850 4xAA DX9

* Average Framerate: 32.55
* Max. Framerate: 47.12
* Min. Framerate: 23.76

* Average Framerate: 33.07
* Max. Framerate: 48.46
* Min. Framerate: 24.10

Rinne
11-14-08, 03:26 AM
Hmmm... did at least the Microstutter in FC2 disappear?

Standingcow
11-14-08, 08:27 AM
Installed the 8.11 drivers. Fan speed works fine, even goes to 100% (loud as a jet engine). :)

MakubeX
11-14-08, 08:39 AM
I believe you could just download the 8.11 display driver. In that way, you're CCC settings would remain the same.

Thanks for the advice, but I don't calibrate it through CCC. I use a monitor calibrator (hardware). It creates an ICC profile. Every time I install new drivers it deletes the profile and I have to calibrate it again.

OnDborder
11-14-08, 09:33 AM
I just installed over the 8.8's. Haven't any issues,,,yet.

Glock, I bios modded my fan speed with rbe to 75 idle/ 100 load. Seems like it's working for me.
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/4463/rewwd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Bon3thugz43v3r
11-14-08, 09:39 AM
I still get stuttering in Far Cry 2 with no AA enabled Vista 32 bit or 64 bit so I know that its not just me. I can put all quality settings to High and I will still get stuttering but as soon as I cap the fps in console to 59, the stuttering stops. Say I then move my quality settings to very high. Now I will get stuttering at 59 cap and must reduce it to say 49. Now the stutter is gone but when I want to play Ultra High settings I must cap at 35. I don't know what this means but its quite annoying.

kkpudge7
11-14-08, 06:52 PM
I'm scared to try these after the problems i had with the 8.10s. Even with the FC2 hotfix installed I would get BSOD with nothing running but windows. I played FC2 for about 3 hours one night, and then I got done, 5 minutes later BSOD. I went back to 8.9s. I dont know if ive got the courage to test them out.

EDIT: FC2 had microstutter even with the hot fix. I had to use the gfx_maxfps 45 command to fix it. If thats what they call a "fix"

hajalie24
11-14-08, 07:00 PM
i downloaded it and so far everything is good, im bored of most of my pc games so i cant really say if i see any problems though.

OldSkool
11-14-08, 07:14 PM
Whew, this seems to be a mess. I'm using 8.8 currently guys and not to thread jack, but just real quick, is there something between 8.8 and this that I should switch to on a 3870x2?

glock19owner
11-14-08, 07:16 PM
I just installed over the 8.8's. Haven't any issues,,,yet.

I actually have the Asus TOP Modded BIOS...this might make a difference...just going to have to play around with them later...

:thup: OD

Nebulous
11-14-08, 07:55 PM
Hmm, I don't use the CCC, plus I don't have the stock cooler so no need for me to adjust fan speeds.

I do, however, use RivaTuner to clock and have an HR-03 with a 120mm fan on my 4850.

So far 8.10's ( Driver only) works great. No issues whatsoever. Maybe I'll give these new ones a test run if I get bored :p

MakubeX
11-14-08, 09:50 PM
So far 8.11 is working great for me. Fixed visual issues I was having in COD:WAW with hotfix drivers.

Nebulous
11-14-08, 10:05 PM
Crap! 8.11's wreaked havoc. Especially with RivaTuner. I couldn't clock worth s__t with RivaTuner. It downlocked the 4850 to 500/750 and even when I did clock it back to defaults (625/993) it would not save it, not to mention it kept tellin me to "test before saving" yet it wouldn't save and kept dropping the clocks back to 500/750. So much for that :rolleyes:

Went back to the 8.10's and evrything is back to normal.

c627627
11-15-08, 02:26 AM
Any compelling reason to switch from 8.9 ? :)

Excellent question. Hey guys, newcomer here just ordered a 4850 today.

I know only too well that there's comes a point when you stop upgrading. I stopped at Catalyst 5.12 with my ATI All-in-Wonder 9600XT, after Catalyst 6 & later wrecked havoc on my computer (thank you Drive Image from saving me from Ati driver updates for years...)


Is after version 8.9 that things start getting dodgy with 4850 cards, what are the biggest pros/cons of 8.9/8.10/8.11, assuming I should go up to at least 8.9 per Super Nade's post?



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ziggo0
11-15-08, 03:02 AM
8.11's are rockin on XP 32 right now, Crossfire too.

bluto05
11-15-08, 03:09 AM
Crap! 8.11's wreaked havoc. Especially with RivaTuner. I couldn't clock worth s__t with RivaTuner. It downlocked the 4850 to 500/750 and even when I did clock it back to defaults (625/993) it would not save it, not to mention it kept tellin me to "test before saving" yet it wouldn't save and kept dropping the clocks back to 500/750. So much for that :rolleyes:

Went back to the 8.10's and evrything is back to normal.


I had the EXACT same issue. RivaTuner just wouldn't save the clock speed. And I did the same as you and switched back to the 8.10's.

Blazing fire
11-15-08, 05:43 AM
Thanks for the advice, but I don't calibrate it through CCC. I use a monitor calibrator (hardware). It creates an ICC profile. Every time I install new drivers it deletes the profile and I have to calibrate it again.

Oh... Btw, how do you remove the clock limit?

Rattle
11-15-08, 06:28 AM
went from 8.10 to 8.11 in v64 with xfire without a glitch, surprised lol. These drivers seem better than 8.10 in cod5.

mattgmann
11-15-08, 10:46 AM
8.11s are running stably, but not any faster. Actually, I'm now getting horrid performance in FC2 with xfire. Before, I could run on the highest settings and 4xAA with a single 4870, now with the same settings and xfire it crawls. I'm getting like 25fps with 2 OC'd 4870s...something is severely wrong.

Evilsizer
11-15-08, 11:00 AM
8.11s are running stably, but not any faster. Actually, I'm now getting horrid performance in FC2 with xfire. Before, I could run on the highest settings and 4xAA with a single 4870, now with the same settings and xfire it crawls. I'm getting like 25fps with 2 OC'd 4870s...something is severely wrong.

are you using both dongles on the video cards?

MakubeX
11-15-08, 11:42 AM
Oh... Btw, how do you remove the clock limit?

If you mean the Rivatuner issue, I don't know. I also can't get clocks to stick using Rivatuner, but then again I have my OC set in the card's BIOS. I don't use Rivatuner for OCing, I flash my overclock so it's set as my card's default clocks.

mattgmann
11-15-08, 02:20 PM
are you using both dongles on the video cards?


Both dongles? As in am I using dual monitors, then no. I'm just using one dvi out port on the top video card. Is there something I should be doing differently?

Or are you talking about the bridge connectors? Yes, both bridge connectors are connected and functioning.

mattgmann
11-15-08, 02:22 PM
Oh... Btw, how do you remove the clock limit?

If you mod the bios on your card, you can change the OC limits in CCC.

Evilsizer
11-15-08, 03:18 PM
Both dongles? As in am I using dual monitors, then no. I'm just using one dvi out port on the top video card. Is there something I should be doing differently?

Or are you talking about the bridge connectors? Yes, both bridge connectors are connected and functioning.

bridge connectors/dongle to lot of people mean the samething.. dvi port is a dvi port there is no other name for it...

ok well remove one of the bridge connectors that is your issue.

Blazing fire
11-15-08, 06:08 PM
If you mean the Rivatuner issue, I don't know. I also can't get clocks to stick using Rivatuner, but then again I have my OC set in the card's BIOS. I don't use Rivatuner for OCing, I flash my overclock so it's set as my card's default clocks.

If you mod the bios on your card, you can change the OC limits in CCC.

Seems flashing is the only way...

Thanks!

mattgmann
11-15-08, 07:18 PM
Well, i've certainly never heard a cable described as a dongle. Normally a dongle is something that plugs into a USB, or serial port.

mattgmann
11-15-08, 07:39 PM
I tried using just 1 "dongle". All that did was make the screen flicker when the 3d app started.

Evilsizer
11-15-08, 08:29 PM
then it must be a driver issue or something with the mobo... have you used gpuz to see what pcie mode each card is running at?

mattgmann
11-15-08, 08:42 PM
Everything checks out in gpu-z. It's working fine in other games, only FC2 is slow. I'm getting better FPS in Crysis maxed out than in FC2. I even managed a 20k 3dmark06 run.

I'm gonna try reinstalling FC2, and possibly reverting to 8.10 w/hotfix. If that doesn't work, I may just throw the game in the garbage and forget about it.

Kalivos
11-15-08, 08:58 PM
Either way not a good thing..card runs 10c hotter at idle with the latest drivers for me at least...

Glad to see I'm not the only one this is happening to!

kkpudge7
11-16-08, 12:31 PM
I have heard a ton of stories about bugginess in FC2, the game just doesn't seem to want to cooperate. I had to use the gfx_maxfps 45 to lock my fps at 45, to get rid of the microstutter.