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nd4spdbh2
12-11-08, 07:15 PM
OK guys suggestions on monitors ranging from 22in - 24 for ~ 300 bucks?

I am really liking the dell E248WFP espically at the price it is at ATM (294.71 out the door)

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=320-6095&cs=04&c=us&l=en&dgc=BF&cid=7421&lid=197378

But i was also looking at the 2443BW and BWX from samsung... im just confuzed i wanna get rid of my beloved 21inch crt... its gettin fuzzy.

JonSimonzi
12-11-08, 07:42 PM
Dell makes some beast monitors. My roommate had a 22" WS, and it was pretty nice. Dell's not bad for that price, I'd go for it.

Zhut
12-11-08, 07:45 PM
Anything with Dell on it has scared me since I first purchased a dell many years ago. I saw a decent Acer for 279.99 24 inch 2ms at my local staples last night. From now on im only buying my monitors in a store that I can show up in person and throw it at them if a pixel is missing. While I am not sure on the model number it may have been one of these 2:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009125

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009154

I know it was an Acer, widescreen, and 2ms time for 279.99 just a thought. seemed to be an ok deal, though I held back after I heard about the scepter 24's for 199 on black friday. I will probably wait on a 24 inch monitor myself until prices drop a bit.

mbigna
12-11-08, 08:00 PM
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=587991

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=588045

or 28" on our forums:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=586942

Finny
12-13-08, 10:22 AM
I just jumped on that E248WFP so I'll tell you how it is when I get it.:) I just couldn't resist that price at Dells site.

gigabit
12-14-08, 07:19 PM
How about these they are only 3 newegg has under $300.If i hadnt purchesed ziggo's hannsG i would of ended up with one these or that refurb westy i linked you to before
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010190020%201309821328%204018&name=%24200%20-%20%24300 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010190020%201309821328%204018&name=%24200%20-%20%24300)



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824112011



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009152

JamesXP
12-14-08, 07:26 PM
Yeah, there's a wide selection there :rolleyes:


I think he also wants to know if the monitors are good or not, and the newegg reviews are hardly a gauge of the performance of said item.

gigabit
12-14-08, 07:31 PM
Yeah, there's a wide selection there :rolleyes:


I think he also wants to know if the monitors are good or not, and the newegg reviews are hardly a gauge of the performance of said item.
True but thats why google is your friend:cool:besides for $300 or less might as well go with a 22 inch to get better quality monitor

One user view of the Sceptre
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1265950

nd4spdbh2
12-15-08, 01:04 AM
honestly guys i think i have come to the conclusion to go a lil cheaper like 200 dollar range for a 21.5 1080p monitor

this is looking very tempting!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236051

gigabit
12-15-08, 05:07 PM
Did you happen to see the Acer H213H bmid Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Widescreen 16:9 LCD Monitor.Its very Similar except for the 5ms

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009157

nd4spdbh2
12-15-08, 07:22 PM
Did you happen to see the Acer H213H bmid Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Widescreen 16:9 LCD Monitor.Its very Similar except for the 5ms

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009157

i did! im really lookin into these 1080p 21.5inchers that pixel density is sweeet!

i dunno which one i wanna buy... 10 bucks more for 2ms vs 5ms is worth it IMO.

gigabit
12-15-08, 07:25 PM
Yeah i think so to.But some of them show 5ms/2ms GTG.Im thinking both are 5ms with 2ms GTG

If you wanna read some about this and more this website is great
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/advanced.htm

nd4spdbh2
12-15-08, 07:32 PM
Yeah i think so to.But some of them show 5ms/2ms GTG.Im thinking both are 5ms with 2ms GTG

oh ya true hmmms!

gigabit
12-15-08, 07:34 PM
Can maybe find out more here.Im looking at it right now
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/advanced.htm

weetoots
12-17-08, 01:52 PM
I just picked up an LG L227WTG from BB for $249.99. Nice picture.:clap:

nd4spdbh2
12-21-08, 06:58 PM
god now im even more confuzed....

dell just put out a 23inch 16:9 monitor with a rez of 2048 x 1156 :eek:

thats what im talkin about... prob with that is, i get the monitor, then my gfx card wont be able to handle the rez, so i buy new gfx card, then cpu bottle necks it, then buy new cpu that requires new mobo... i yi yi.

gigabit
12-21-08, 08:07 PM
What res is that 52 incher at 1920x1080?

Rattle
12-21-08, 08:26 PM
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=31200&promoid=1145&vpn=G2400WD&manufacture=BENQ best TN based gaming monitor on the market, arguably....

ordered lol

gigabit
12-21-08, 08:34 PM
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=31200&promoid=1145&vpn=G2400WD&manufacture=BENQ best TN based gaming monitor on the market, arguably....

ordered lol
Dam good price

I♥GFX
12-21-08, 10:28 PM
Whats so good about the benq? 1000:1, 5ms, regular stuff. And the make it worse 250 candelas...

Rattle
12-21-08, 10:51 PM
lowest input lag, best colors out of the box and best viewing angles of any tn, all what matters in gaming.
the advertised specs mean nothing on lcd's, you gotta dig deeper

nd4spdbh2
12-21-08, 11:27 PM
What res is that 52 incher at 1920x1080?

yup 1080p 52incher...


i think my newest fave monitor is that dell 23inch 16:9 2048x1156 rez screen!

thideras
12-21-08, 11:48 PM
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=31200&promoid=1145&vpn=G2400WD&manufacture=BENQ best TN based gaming monitor on the market, arguably....

ordered lolOMG, thank you so much...I've been looking for a third one to match my first two and have not been able to find it!

That being said, I own two of the BenQ G2400W's right now and love them to death. 3 inputs and they look amazing.

nd4spdbh2
12-22-08, 12:15 AM
OMG, thank you so much...I've been looking for a third one to match my first two and have not been able to find it!

That being said, I own two of the BenQ G2400W's right now and love them to death. 3 inputs and they look amazing.

damn... if thiddy says its good, gah too many decisions!

Rattle
12-22-08, 01:40 AM
OMG, thank you so much...I've been looking for a third one to match my first two and have not been able to find it!

That being said, I own two of the BenQ G2400W's right now and love them to death. 3 inputs and they look amazing.

NP I been researching them alot, [H] actually has alot of useful info on monitors, lot of people doing tests and comparisons.

thideras
12-22-08, 01:56 AM
NP I been researching them alot, [H] actually has alot of useful info on monitors, lot of people doing tests and comparisons.I'm so tempted to order that right now -_-

I don't even have a second graphics card to put in my main machine to run it!

Rattle
12-22-08, 05:19 AM
I was waiting for this screen, a buddy i game with has it and loves it. I will have dual displays now with my hpw2207 :)

Oklahoma Wolf
12-22-08, 09:58 AM
Save one of those BenQ's for me - it's on my shopping list for the NCIX boxing day sale :D

Well, either that or the V2400W. It all depends on what's on sale for how much money.

RollingThunder
12-22-08, 10:04 AM
OMG, thank you so much...I've been looking for a third one to match my first two and have not been able to find it!

That being said, I own two of the BenQ G2400W's right now and love them to death. 3 inputs and they look amazing.

Cripes, just when I had a couple 22" narrowed down to buy, I read this thread and now have to look at the BenQ and the new Dell 23". :confused: I've seen the LG 227 model and wow, is it class and for now, that was the one until reading this :)

Oklahoma Wolf
12-22-08, 10:13 AM
I feel your pain - up until a couple weeks ago, I was dead sure I was getting a 22." That number went up to 26" before coming back down to a good TN panel 24" ;)

RollingThunder
12-22-08, 10:30 AM
I feel your pain - up until a couple weeks ago, I was dead sure I was getting a 22." That number went up to 26" before coming back down to a good TN panel 24" ;)

Yep, buying a new build's power supply is easy (another HX520)! This is hard. :)

nd4spdbh2
12-22-08, 07:05 PM
ya i have been in an lcd conundrum for the past 2 months... and with these choices espically these new 21.5inch 1080p and this awesome new dell 23inch 2048 x 1156 screen... im lost AGAIN! :bang head

RollingThunder
12-22-08, 07:22 PM
ya i have been in an lcd conundrum for the past 2 months... and with these choices espically these new 21.5inch 1080p and this awesome new dell 23inch 2048 x 1156 screen... im lost AGAIN! :bang head

nd,

This thread made me go out to Best Buy and take a another look. The LG227 didn't look as good this time, the HP's looked great as did the Samsung T220 but I want a brushed case, not the shiny black, so back to Dell. Cripes, have to make another list now and get a another friggin' headache. LOL :screwy:

Oklahoma Wolf
12-22-08, 08:59 PM
Samsung T220

The real torture is knowing that NCIX has the T240 on sale with free shipping. It almost had me until I remembered my friend's Samsung 24" and the backlight bleed issue it had. I think that would drive me nuts.

Super Nade
12-23-08, 09:47 AM
One more person in the market for a 24". Figured I'd chime in here instead of starting a new thread. I'm in it for gaming only, no serious photo work or anything of that sort. I am upgrading from a 19.1" WS.

Couple of questions:
- 1920 x 1200 versus 1920 x 1080?
-Response time 2ms v/s 5ms any big difference?
-Customer support. I don't want to be stuck with a dead screen after 1 year. :-/

So far I've heard good things about
-BenQ G2400WD -> http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=31200&promoid=1145&vpn=G2400WD&manufacture=BENQ
-Samsung -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001295
-ASUS -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

Any other options? My budget is about $300.

Should I go with a good 22" instead and save some money? Should I wait?

RollingThunder
12-23-08, 11:11 AM
One more person in the market for a 24". Figured I'd chime in here instead of starting a new thread. I'm in it for gaming only, no serious photo work or anything of that sort. I am upgrading from a 19.1" WS.

Couple of questions:
- 1920 x 1200 versus 1920 x 1080?
-Response time 2ms v/s 5ms any big difference?
-Customer support. I don't want to be stuck with a dead screen after 1 year. :-/

So far I've heard good things about
-BenQ G2400WD -> http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=31200&promoid=1145&vpn=G2400WD&manufacture=BENQ
-Samsung -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001295
-ASUS -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

Any other options? My budget is about $300.

Should I go with a good 22" instead and save some money? Should I wait?


S/N,

I'm far from an expert on larger monitors and will comment only on what I have seen live in stores:

Dell 2407 and the HP 2407 were very, very nice along with the Samsung 24. If I was choosing right now, I wouldn't know which one. Dell's support is excellent. The 22 inch are obviously just a difficult a choice. There are so many good ones to see but, like you, I want to know how they will last and what kind of support and warranty I'll get with them. I'm going to let it go for a few weeks and think about it all again.

My current Dell, a 2007FP Ultra Sharp PVA 1600 x 1200 20" is the best I have ever seen in that size. I bought it early this year from Dell "refurbished" at a considerable savings and it was new and perfect in every way. What to do............?

gigabit
12-23-08, 03:47 PM
S/N,

I'm far from an expert on larger monitors and will comment only on what I have seen live in stores:

Dell 2407 and the HP 2407 were very, very nice along with the Samsung 24. If I was choosing right now, I wouldn't know which one. Dell's support is excellent. The 22 inch are obviously just a difficult a choice. There are so many good ones to see but, like you, I want to know how they will last and what kind of support and warranty I'll get with them. I'm going to let it go for a few weeks and think about it all again.

My current Dell, a 2007FP Ultra Sharp PVA 1600 x 1200 20" is the best I have ever seen in that size. I bought it early this year from Dell "refurbished" at a considerable savings and it was new and perfect in every way. What to do............?
I love my Ultra Sharp 2007FP also.Are you sure its an PVA.Mine is an S-IPS and its screen is awesome with no dead pixels

moto211
12-23-08, 11:52 PM
Same here...I was dead sure that I was going to get a 22". I was leaning towards one of those 1080p models that several companies have released. Then, I found the debranded 24" HP w2408h (refurbed) on slickdeals and jumped on it. Glad I did too. Great picture, no dead pixels, looks brand new, accepts HDMI, and I got it for $240 shipped with a 2 year square trade warranty. This is my first LCD monitor that I've owned, but from what I have seen in store and at friends houses, this seems like a quality TN panel.

Super Nade
12-24-08, 09:55 AM
Pulled the trigger on this one-->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236046

After discounts--> $380 shipped. (Perhaps it qualifies as a deal?)

gigabit
12-24-08, 10:02 AM
Sweet.I hope it a good one.It has good reviews

RollingThunder
12-24-08, 10:04 AM
Pulled the trigger on this one-->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236046

After discounts--> $380 shipped. (Perhaps it qualifies as a deal?)

S/N,

I have seen the Asus 22" at Best Buy, never paid too much attention to them because I associated them with motherboards, etc., until they had a few turned on. They also looked as good as any other and was quite impressed. If their 24" looks as good as their 22", I think you have made a "deal." :)

Super Nade
12-24-08, 11:49 AM
S/N,

I have seen the Asus 22" at Best Buy, never paid too much attention to them because I associated them with motherboards, etc., until they had a few turned on. They also looked as good as any other and was quite impressed. If their 24" looks as good as their 22", I think you have made a "deal." :)

Well, I'm not gonna second guess myself till the unit arrives. Corpsejockey convinced me that dropping $80 to "upgrade" from a 24" to a 25.5" is worth it. Good to know because I was looking at a 24" earlier. In any case, I hope that there will be a huge difference from my current 19.1". :)

gigabit
12-24-08, 12:19 PM
Well, I'm not gonna second guess myself till the unit arrives. Corpsejockey convinced me that dropping $80 to "upgrade" from a 24" to a 25.5" is worth it. Good to know because I was looking at a 24" earlier. In any case, I hope that there will be a huge difference from my current 19.1". :)
Oh yeah there will be.I went from a 20 inch Dell Ultra Sharp 2007FP to the 28 inch Hanns G and man im in love.Yeah my Dells screen was a bit sharper but ive got everthing on the Hanns G dialed in now and im very happy with it.I though going from a S-IPS panel to a TN might make miss my Dell but i dont at all.

Oklahoma Wolf
12-24-08, 10:11 PM
Well, after much frustration with the NCIX servers and waiting all this time only to find out the BenQ wasn't a penny cheaper than it was last week, my G2400WD is on order - can't wait to see what it's like. First new monitor purchase since... well, 2001 :D

Methinks next year I'm going back to ignoring the boxing week sale. Their servers just can't take the traffic, and there's usually nothing I need once I finally get in there.

TechtonicPC
01-04-09, 09:13 PM
Well, after much frustration with the NCIX servers and waiting all this time only to find out the BenQ wasn't a penny cheaper than it was last week, my G2400WD is on order - can't wait to see what it's like. First new monitor purchase since... well, 2001 :D

Methinks next year I'm going back to ignoring the boxing week sale. Their servers just can't take the traffic, and there's usually nothing I need once I finally get in there.

how is the monitor? and how is ncxis as a vendor?

RollingThunder
01-04-09, 09:54 PM
how is the monitor? and how is ncxis as a vendor?

Dog sleds haven't gotten through to Saskatchewan yet....... :D

Rattle
01-04-09, 10:10 PM
i have had my g2400wd for a week and I am loving it completety, awesome gaming screen

TechtonicPC
01-04-09, 10:16 PM
i have had my g2400wd for a week and I am loving it completety, awesome gaming screen

I am about to buy this monitor, I am just trying to see if it is worth saving $60 bucks and ordering from them, or paying the extra and getting it from the egg. Anyone buy there's from this place?

kayson
01-04-09, 11:14 PM
I snagged a Samsung 226BW like a year ago for $225-ish. Great monitor. People were complaining about the panels all the time but mine looked fantastic. I don't know if you can still find them though.

Rattle
01-04-09, 11:45 PM
I bought mine from ncixus, no issues using paypal, came fedex in good shape no ded pix

TechtonicPC
01-05-09, 12:08 AM
I bought mine from ncixus, no issues using paypal, came fedex in good shape no ded pix

thank you! Ordered! :)

I♥GFX
01-05-09, 12:31 AM
Anyone know if the Westinghouse L2410NM is useable for gaming? 8ms response time sounds slow.

Also, is the Benq G2400WD dark? I read it only has 250 cd/m2?

I'm ordering either that, or a Samsung 245bw soon.

Also, anyone want to purchase a new Dell 2407wfp-hc? I got one on ebay!

Malakai
01-05-09, 03:04 AM
You can either get a top quality 22" TN or a bottom quality 24" TN for that price.


I went with the former and got the 22" Samsung T220 for 279. Slight backlight bleed on top and bottom edges of most, but not a big deal and more than made up for with outstanding image quality in every other area.

The only 24" that might have matched my quality needs on color, reactivity, and input lag is the BenQ G2400 and it's over budget at 369, and it has other drawbacks and problems the T220 doesn't.

AngryArtichoke
01-05-09, 07:51 PM
Anyone know if the Westinghouse L2410NM is useable for gaming? 8ms response time sounds slow.

Also, is the Benq G2400WD dark? I read it only has 250 cd/m2?

I'm ordering either that, or a Samsung 245bw soon.

Also, anyone want to purchase a new Dell 2407wfp-hc? I got one on ebay!

The westinghouse 24 is a MVA. And I can notice the ghosting sometimes. Naturally it excels in different areas than a TN would.

As for the Dell, perhaps you should post in the classies if you have access.

I♥GFX
01-05-09, 08:45 PM
I have access, the 2407wfp shot up to $325 on eBay so I see no reason to try and sell it anywhere else really. I was going to post on classifieds but the price it hit on eBay is fine for me.

Okay back to the L2410NM, is there noticable input lag? 8ms I read!?

TechtonicPC
01-09-09, 10:01 PM
Just wanted to say that I got my BENQ 2400WD in today from NCIX. This monitor is absolutely beautiful! Awesome!!!!

No dead or stuck pixels, no black light bleed, wonderful color reproduction, and absolutely no ghosting in games!

A+

nd4spdbh2
01-09-09, 10:54 PM
Well i have pretty much scrapped any 21.5inch or 24inch screen idea...

for the idea of a QWXGA (2048x1152rez) 23inch screen... they should be commin out shortly...

Dell has theirs for sale already

SP2309W - http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-7641

And samsung has anounced theirs

2342BWX (google it)

So we will c which one i choose! cus i absolutly LOVE high rezolution smaller screens on laptops.... if you do the math 2048x1152 in a 23inch 16:9 screen works out to be VERY VERY close to the same pixles per square inch of a 21.5inch 16:9 1920x1080 rez screen. I thought i would have problems reading text so i went to bestbuy and looked at the dell 21.5 1080p... i could stand 6feet back and read 10-12pt text no prob.!!! (its 15% more pixels per square inch as compared to a 24inch 1900x1200 screen :eek:)

nvidiaOCmaster
01-09-09, 10:57 PM
I just spent 159$ on a hanns G 22". Its great. Quality is incredible for only 159$.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254035

price jumped 10$.

Malakai
01-10-09, 01:58 AM
Well i have pretty much scrapped any 21.5inch or 24inch screen idea...

for the idea of a QWXGA (2048x1152rez) 23inch screen... they should be commin out shortly...

Dell has theirs for sale already

SP2309W - http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-7641

And samsung has anounced theirs

2342BWX (google it)

So we will c which one i choose! cus i absolutly LOVE high rezolution smaller screens on laptops.... if you do the math 2048x1152 in a 23inch 16:9 screen works out to be VERY VERY close to the same pixles per square inch of a 21.5inch 16:9 1920x1080 rez screen. I thought i would have problems reading text so i went to bestbuy and looked at the dell 21.5 1080p... i could stand 6feet back and read 10-12pt text no prob.!!! (its 15% more pixels per square inch as compared to a 24inch 1900x1200 screen :eek:)

IMO, with the current gen of cheaply available video cards, 1920x1200 is gaming zen right now. More than that and your going to be lowering settings to hold 60fps on newer games.

Gabkicks
01-10-09, 10:09 AM
I just got a Samsung T220 from techforless for 209$ total to be shipped to me. Still in the process of testing it out. Whites seem a bit too white, and blacks too black. Maybe i need tweaking or to just get used to it.
They sent me the wrong monitor on the 5th, i called and had the right monitor delivered the 9th -_-.

RollingThunder
01-10-09, 10:44 AM
I just got a Samsung T220 from techforless for 209$ total to be shipped to me. Still in the process of testing it out. Whites seem a bit too white, and blacks too black. Maybe i need tweaking or to just get used to it.
They sent me the wrong monitor on the 5th, i called and had the right monitor delivered the 9th -_-.

Gab,

Good choice. I looked at them before picking this HP 2207. It was a difficult decision because I could have been pleased with either.

nd4spdbh2
01-10-09, 11:27 AM
IMO, with the current gen of cheaply available video cards, 1920x1200 is gaming zen right now. More than that and your going to be lowering settings to hold 60fps on newer games.

if you do the math

1900x1200 = 2280000 pixels

2048x1152 = 2359296 pixels

= the qwxga screen having 3.4% more pixels ... so really its not much more to render.

Kayden
01-14-09, 09:22 AM
It's a really weird resolution though. Hardly mainstream. I wouldn't be surprised if not many games supported it.if you do the math

1900x1200 = 2280000 pixels

2048x1152 = 2359296 pixels

= the qwxga screen having 3.4% more pixels ... so really its not much more to render.

Neuromancer
01-14-09, 09:47 AM
It's a really weird resolution though. Hardly mainstream. I wouldn't be surprised if not many games supported it.

Its 16:9 not very wierd at all



AS for what monitor to get..

Just saw that thread on the new 3d setup from nViida. $600 for monitor and glasses...

nd4spdbh2
01-14-09, 09:50 AM
ya no thnx on the 3d monitor crapola...

and the rez really isnt that weird.

Kayden
01-14-09, 09:54 AM
I didn't say aspect ration, I said resolution. I don't conciously recollect any game that supports 2048x1152. I'm not saying they aren't there, but it won't be very common. I'd rather go 16:10 and have the ability to not use pixels for 16:9 than try to cram a 16:10 image into a 16:9.

Its 16:9 not very wierd at all



AS for what monitor to get..

Just saw that thread on the new 3d setup from nViida. $600 for monitor and glasses...

e6600
01-14-09, 09:57 AM
theres a pretty nice acer panel over at newegg
24inch 2ms 40000:1 dynamic 1920res for like 330

Neuromancer
01-14-09, 07:11 PM
I didn't say aspect ration, I said resolution. I don't conciously recollect any game that supports 2048x1152. I'm not saying they aren't there, but it won't be very common. I'd rather go 16:10 and have the ability to not use pixels for 16:9 than try to cram a 16:10 image into a 16:9.

I think (could be wrong) that modern games will only list resolutions that your monitor will support. f yours does is not 16:9 and way up there over 1080p, then you would not find the res familiar.

When I have my 22" widescreen LCD installed games only go up to 1680x1050. When I have my Sony 24" CRT installed they go up to 2056xsomething, (I usually just game at 1920x1200 res 85Hz, so dont remember top resolution.)

nd4spdbh2
01-14-09, 07:33 PM
I think (could be wrong) that modern games will only list resolutions that your monitor will support. f yours does is not 16:9 and way up there over 1080p, then you would not find the res familiar.

When I have my 22" widescreen LCD installed games only go up to 1680x1050. When I have my Sony 24" CRT installed they go up to 2056xsomething, (I usually just game at 1920x1200 res 85Hz, so dont remember top resolution.)

your correct... i dont understand why people are gettin all upset over this resolution.... look at attached images... this is COUNTERSTRIKE 1.6... AKA A VERY OLD GAME.

Nothing is stretched, nothing is out of aspect ratio, player models are like they always are.

http://teamlosi.andrevas.net/pics/comp/2048x1152/2048x1152.JPG

http://teamlosi.andrevas.net/pics/comp/2048x1152/2048x1152-2.JPG

Crysis warhead.... No problem @ 2048x1152
http://teamlosi.andrevas.net/pics/comp/2048x1152/ScreenShot0000.jpg

GRID ... guess what no prob @ 2048x1152
http://teamlosi.andrevas.net/pics/comp/2048x1152/grid.JPG
these are all off my system in my sig.

Malakai
01-14-09, 11:50 PM
I just got a Samsung T220 from techforless for 209$ total to be shipped to me. Still in the process of testing it out. Whites seem a bit too white, and blacks too black. Maybe i need tweaking or to just get used to it.
They sent me the wrong monitor on the 5th, i called and had the right monitor delivered the 9th -_-.

Set some settings in the OSD the way they say too here, made it look mucho better!
http://www.digitalversus.com/article-358-3448-36.html


I fully admit, the colors on the new BenQ are not as good as the T220. Blacks almost as good. I will need to find calibration hardware to get this looking as good. And even then it still will not be as good. Dark grayscale on T220 was pro, only meh on this baby.

Still worth it for the extra size IMO, but had I paid 209 for my T220 (instead of 300 incl tax @bestbuy) I would have kept it!

My 24" pick is obviously the BenQ G2400WD, like I said not as super awesome looking as the T220, but one of the best 24" TN's and can be found for slightly over 300 shipped if you watch for sales at various online stores.

Kayden
01-15-09, 08:58 AM
Would you guys recommend getting the G2400WD new for $370 or refurbed from Benq for 220?

Malakai
01-15-09, 02:36 PM
Would you guys recommend getting the G2400WD new for $370 or refurbed from Benq for 220?

refurbed, well that is up to you. It is always a risk, depending on the warranty they offer you. The price is right, I would be worried about getting stuck with a bunch of dead pixels or something.

Buy.com, newegg.com, and ncixus.com (where I just got mine from) have all had sales where a new one was less than 300. I got mine for 270 + shipping on a weekend short sale. If you keep an eye out on the retailers (and the hardforums and this forum, other deal sites) you will surely catch another sale on a new unit.

If you need a monitor on the cheap right now, the sammy T220 is the best 22" TN on the market IMO, and it is on sale for 190 at ncix. One of those weekly specials I mentioned.

http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=30396&promoid=1030&vpn=LS22TWHSUV%2FZA&manufacture=Samsung

For the price that is seriously a steal. Otherwise wait for a new G2400WD. My 0.02 =)

Kayden
01-15-09, 02:42 PM
I'm already running a 1680x1050 20", so if I'm going to get a better size I might as well get a better resolution too. I think I'll just wait for a 24" cheap. It's not like not spending another $300 will kill me.

Malakai
01-15-09, 02:43 PM
your correct... i dont understand why people are gettin all upset over this resolution.... look at attached images... this is COUNTERSTRIKE 1.6... AKA A VERY OLD GAME.

Nothing is stretched, nothing is out of aspect ratio, player models are like they always are.
these are all off my system in my sig.

A 21" CRT can support that res but actually doesn't display that many pixels. You can figure it out by taking your monitors dot pitch and viewable size to determine # of pixels it can actually display correctly.
Doubtful you get any real visual increase with anything over 1600x1200 on a 21" though. Unless it is a widescreen model, all the ones we used were 4:3.
I had a 21" trinitron for many many years heh. My friend still has his 24", its in the closet though since he recently moved to an LCD. 1600x1200 was its optimal res, more and it wasn't actually displaying slightly more than 1600 pixels anyway, but using a lot more graphics horsepower.

I'm already running a 1680x1050 20", so if I'm going to get a better size I might as well get a better resolution too. I think I'll just wait for a 24" cheap. It's not like not spending another $300 will kill me.

Cool. Id just hold off then and wait for a sale. Keep an eye on the benq threads here http://www.hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=78 for people posting about a sale. 1920x1200 is indeed the ****zle =) I have been 1280x1024 for a long time

Kayden
01-15-09, 03:32 PM
Yikes!

I've had my 20" for years. I bought it back when they were still $600. Dell had like 3-4 coupons that all stacked and I wound up getting it for like 270...

nd4spdbh2
01-15-09, 04:13 PM
A 21" CRT can support that res but actually doesn't display that many pixels. You can figure it out by taking your monitors dot pitch and viewable size to determine # of pixels it can actually display correctly.
Doubtful you get any real visual increase with anything over 1600x1200 on a 21" though. Unless it is a widescreen model, all the ones we used were 4:3.
I had a 21" trinitron for many many years heh. My friend still has his 24", its in the closet though since he recently moved to an LCD. 1600x1200 was its optimal res, more and it wasn't actually displaying slightly more than 1600 pixels anyway, but using a lot more graphics horsepower.






yes my 21inch crt didnt fully support the 2048x1152 rez (had to overscan).... but every game i played did, that was the point of the post above... what i was saying / proving is that the 2048x1152 rez is not a "funky" "weird" resolution by any means.

MadMatt2600
01-16-09, 12:25 AM
Looking at getting a 24" LCD monitor. watching video and doing word and excel docs is what I'll mainly be doing but some gaming. Looking at the Asus VK246H and the Acer P243W. Any input is appreciated.

mxthunder
01-17-09, 09:52 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009145

How does this one seem? My budget its really tight after building my new rig. Running 9800GT that I should be able to overclock even further after I put a different cooler on it. I was reading this article (http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/xfx_9800gt/6.htm) and the difference in FPS between all the cards really isnt that significant? Anything less than 40fps is crap anyways right?

noobert
01-17-09, 10:02 PM
Samsung 245BW...Great!!!!

nd4spdbh2
01-17-09, 10:51 PM
well guys i got to see the samsung 2343BWX today in person at frys... O MY GOD talk about a sexy monitor. 300 bucks @ frys for 5ms, 20K:1 contrast 2048x1152 rez, so i came home to check out the dell equivilant.... they r having a sale on it right now... 320 bucks for 2ms 80k:1 contrast WITH a 2mp webcam, hdmi, audio in / out, usb hub and nice stand.... looks like ill be buyin the dell here within the next 2 days or so.

Malakai
01-18-09, 07:53 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009145

How does this one seem? My budget its really tight after building my new rig. Running 9800GT that I should be able to overclock even further after I put a different cooler on it. I was reading this article (http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/xfx_9800gt/6.htm) and the difference in FPS between all the cards really isnt that significant? Anything less than 40fps is crap anyways right?

Those acers, while decent for the price, are the cheapest and worst looking lcd's on the market.

For slightly more you can get the greatest 22"ers (sammy T220 is my fav, other good ones in this thread). The T220 can be had for slightly over 200 shipped when it goes on sale at the online retailers, NCIXUS just had it up for 209.

mxthunder
01-18-09, 09:57 PM
thanks for the input, malakai, how about this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236050
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254035
asus for the same price, after a rebate, with a little better response time. Do the asus just look bad because they are TN screens?

mxthunder
01-18-09, 10:05 PM
thanks for the input, malakai, how about this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236050
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254035
asus for the same price, after a rebate, with a little better response time. Do the asus just look bad because they are TN screens?

might be able to stretch my budget to this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052

the samsung 2220WM i can get for $240 or your favorite for

grr there are so many samsung models. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001268
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001306

maybe i should just save a little more and buy a bigger 24"+ HDTV so i can use it in my house in the future and use it as a monitor for now.

ps sorry to jack this thread but i figured it was a good place to ask more questions since nd4spdbh2's question was already answered

Malakai
01-18-09, 10:18 PM
I don't specifically know anything about the asus, but they are not liked by the community.

The only 22" TNs I would buy right now would be:
HP w2207h(glossy, least fav of these 3), Samsung T220 (fav), LG L227WTG-PF (glossy, no input lag & good response time, I didnt like the colors that much tho)

As for the samsungs, the 2253 is not bad but all other sammy 22" are inferior to the t220, the whole Touch of Color series (T220-260) use their newest panels and tech.

The brand doesnt matter really, certain models from various manufacturers are awesome, the majority are just meh, and a bunch suck pretty bad =)

Go read around the www.hardforum.com display section, best place for detailed user reviews with all the input lag, color tests, and pics you can want. The specs gamers really want to know about, real reactivity (their Xms numbers are usually bull) and input lag (delay between the image being recieved and displayed by the monitor), and you cant find those out from listed specs.

nd4spdbh2
01-19-09, 10:15 AM
Well guys i ordered the Dell 23inch 2048x1152 rez monitor for 320 bucks + tax + LCD fee came out to 358ish.... which is quite good as the base samsung 23 inch 2048x rez monitor is 300 bucks... so for 20 bucks more i get better specs, usb hub, web cam, hdmi, and a much better stand.

ahhhdam
01-19-09, 04:46 PM
nd4spdbh2, please let us know how that monitor is when you get it please:) I am in the same predicament you were trying to decide which monitor to choose. When you posted up the 23in Dell, you too also made my decision much more harder. And it might seem that I too might go the 23in Dell route soon.:beer:

nd4spdbh2
01-20-09, 11:03 AM
nd4spdbh2, please let us know how that monitor is when you get it please:) I am in the same predicament you were trying to decide which monitor to choose. When you posted up the 23in Dell, you too also made my decision much more harder. And it might seem that I too might go the 23in Dell route soon.:beer:

will do... i must say... DELL gets an A+ on getting stuff processed and shipped... ordered SUNDAY the 18th, it shipped the 19th and will be here today the 20th... i just hope someone is at my house to sign for it.... maybe my GF will have slept and will hang around my house till bout 1!

Malakai
01-20-09, 09:14 PM
Well guys i ordered the Dell 23inch 2048x1152 rez monitor for 320 bucks + tax + LCD fee came out to 358ish.... which is quite good as the base samsung 23 inch 2048x rez monitor is 300 bucks... so for 20 bucks more i get better specs, usb hub, web cam, hdmi, and a much better stand.

Is it just a TN? I would assume so for the price, though that is about 100 bucks more than I would spend on a 22 =)
nd4spdbh2, please let us know how that monitor is when you get it please:) I am in the same predicament you were trying to decide which monitor to choose. When you posted up the 23in Dell, you too also made my decision much more harder. And it might seem that I too might go the 23in Dell route soon.:beer:

nd4spdbh2
01-21-09, 05:29 PM
well its kind of bitter sweet guys... the monitor i must say is dead sexy... the stand is one of the best i have seen, and the rez is awesome!

But its got its probs....

1. Very noticeable inverter buzz when brightness is set to anything less than 100... which @ 100 kills my eyes.

2. inconsistent brightness between top and bottom. (pic attached is pretty much spot on in how much darker it is at the top...)

3. and for the life of me i cant get the colors just right... although they are very good.

Other than that its an awesome monitor... ima give it a coupla days but TBH guys i think i may be sending it back and get a full refund, then go buy a samsung 22inch 2253BW.

I♥GFX
01-21-09, 07:12 PM
Got the Samsung 2443BW with the HAS stand (height, pivot, rotate, etc.). Very nice, fast and no dead/stuck pixels thanks to NCIXUS.com's policy, so glad! Came all the way from Canada I think and it's perfect condition. Love it!

nd4spdbh2
01-21-09, 08:50 PM
well i did a lil test cus i coulda sworn there was some weird lag i was feeling (constantly overshooting icons and links and starting turns to late in GRID) ... wasnt ghosting at all but just like lag... turns out the SP2309W averages about 29-32ms of of overall as compared to my OLD OLD crt.... test was done fairly... running cloned displays LCD @ native rez @ 60hz, crt also at 60hz refresh. with the timer positioned halfway up both screens.

Like i said ima give it a coupla days, ill probably end up going to frys seeing what their return policy is on monitors, grabbing the 2253BW demo they had and trying that out, then return it and get a new one on newegg.

ahhhdam
01-22-09, 04:54 AM
nd4spdbh2 thanks for the honest review. I'm sorry to hear that the monitor had some bad kinks out of the box. Hopefully, it gets better. If not, keep us updated on the other selections you get.

Kayden
01-22-09, 08:03 AM
That's really weird...


The G2400WD is also on sale this week: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=31200&promoid=1015&vpn=G2400WD&manufacture=BENQ

nd4spdbh2
01-22-09, 11:55 AM
ya im kinda bumbed... its an awesome monitor but these quirks kill it.... and TBH i thought i was gonna be fine with such a high pixel density... but im coming to the realization that 23inch 16:9 with 2048x1152 is just to much, its hard to read things!

doublejack
01-22-09, 02:49 PM
That's quite a bit of lag for a TN panel monitor. I'm pretty surprised to see that.

Oklahoma Wolf
01-22-09, 04:04 PM
how is the monitor? and how is ncxis as a vendor?

Just wanted to say that I got my BENQ 2400WD in today from NCIX. This monitor is absolutely beautiful! Awesome!!!!

No dead or stuck pixels, no black light bleed, wonderful color reproduction, and absolutely no ghosting in games!

A+

Sorry to be so late on this. My first one was awesome until I spotted several stuck pixels in a row. Couldn't fix them with software or screen massaging. So, having gotten the DP guarantee, I sent it back.

The new one arrived yesterday. It's flawless... no problems of any kind. I think it's a little worse than the first one was for backlight bleed, but the viewing angles seem to be a little better on this one, if I'm remembering right.

NCIX as always was wonderful to deal with. They approved the RMA in no time, paid for return shipping as part of the DP guarantee, and all I had to do was try my hardest to be patient. But the replacement was worth every penny of the dead pixel guarantee, I have to say.

Quigsby
01-22-09, 08:47 PM
Oklahoma, did you purchase that extra protection warranty they offer for LCDs? I was looking at the G2400WD and I read their Express guarantee or whatever it is. It had me wondering if I really needed to purchase it with the LCD.

nd4spdbh2
01-22-09, 09:06 PM
ya if i do end up ordering a 2253bw or T220 it will be from ncix as they have awesome deals going on till the 27th on those monitors.

Oklahoma Wolf
01-22-09, 11:16 PM
Oklahoma, did you purchase that extra protection warranty they offer for LCDs?

Yes. And I'm glad I did too, because the first one had several stuck pixels in a row in the bottom left corner.

mxthunder
01-23-09, 10:30 AM
Just pulled the trigger on a Samsung T220 from ecost.com for a total of $209!
My spending is getting really out of hand

Kayden
01-23-09, 12:39 PM
Bogus. I can't believe you find it worth while to pay extra for what should be guaranteed... It's like paying the barber an extra $5 to not stab you in the eye. An LCD with dead pixels shouldn't leave the factory, not to mention be returned at the customer's expense after paying for an extra dead pixel warranty...

Sorry to be so late on this. My first one was awesome until I spotted several stuck pixels in a row. Couldn't fix them with software or screen massaging. So, having gotten the DP guarantee, I sent it back.

The new one arrived yesterday. It's flawless... no problems of any kind. I think it's a little worse than the first one was for backlight bleed, but the viewing angles seem to be a little better on this one, if I'm remembering right.

NCIX as always was wonderful to deal with. They approved the RMA in no time, paid for return shipping as part of the DP guarantee, and all I had to do was try my hardest to be patient. But the replacement was worth every penny of the dead pixel guarantee, I have to say.

nd4spdbh2
01-23-09, 12:50 PM
Bogus. I can't believe you find it worth while to pay extra for what should be guaranteed... It's like paying the barber an extra $5 to not stab you in the eye. An LCD with dead pixels shouldn't leave the factory, not to mention be returned at the customer's expense after paying for an extra dead pixel warranty...

you would think that would be the case..

Kinda like when we bought our 52inch samsung LCD hdtv... got it home got the wall mount up got it mounted, turned it on had one dead pixel right in the center... took it back down and boxed it back up. took it back to frys and demanded a new one.

Icelight
01-23-09, 03:43 PM
I'm really debating between the BenQ G2400WD and the Samsung T240...

Their specs seem to be pretty much the same (well, except for Samsung using their Dynamic Contrast ratio as advertising...), except that the T240 looks a helluva lot better.

Any input into these two monitors? They will be used for gaming, so any large noticeable degree of input lag would be a deal breaker. Though I have a Dell E228WFP right now and never noticed any issues with it.

Malakai
01-24-09, 12:19 AM
Just pulled the trigger on a Samsung T220 from ecost.com for a total of $209!
My spending is getting really out of hand

That screen is so very worth 209 bucks!
I paid 300 for mine and almost kept it.

Oklahoma Wolf
01-24-09, 08:53 AM
Bogus. I can't believe you find it worth while to pay extra for what should be guaranteed...

But like it or not, it isn't guaranteed. Had I not paid for the dead pixel guarantee, I would have had to live with those three stuck pixels stabbing me in the eye.

I♥GFX
01-24-09, 03:21 PM
Oklahoma Wolf I went with NCIXs dead pixel policy as well and paid extra for full monitor insurance, total was like $20 bucks since it shipped from Canada, and it came perfectly.

I'm so glad I paid extra for the peace of mind, had the monitor came with dead pixels or damages and I hadn't paid extra for their policy+insurance, I would've been screwed.

nd4spdbh2
01-24-09, 06:07 PM
Just pulled the trigger on a Samsung T220 from ecost.com for a total of $209!
My spending is getting really out of hand

When you get it can you see what type of pannel it has?

Take a look here how to do so
(http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=593159)

and whats the model number on the back? (LS22TWHSUV/ZA or LS22TWHSUV/ZC)

imposter
01-24-09, 06:22 PM
ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052

nd4spdbh2
01-24-09, 08:41 PM
eh im pretty much set on a 2253bw or a T220, 22incher... the whole 16:9 thing is actually a lil too wide for computer use.

Rudstock
01-26-09, 09:40 AM
Just pulled the trigger on a Samsung T220 from ecost.com for a total of $209!
My spending is getting really out of hand

Almost pulled the trigger on that myself, until i noticed that its manufacturer recertified. Let us know how it performs when u get it...

I♥GFX
01-26-09, 11:21 AM
Almost pulled the trigger on that myself, until i noticed that its manufacturer recertified. Let us know how it performs when u get it...Where did you notice that!? Hope it wasn't ncixus...

Kayden
01-26-09, 11:31 AM
That really wasn't meant to be a reflection of you, just that the system is now so ridiculous we have to pay extra to actually get a flawless product.

But like it or not, it isn't guaranteed. Had I not paid for the dead pixel guarantee, I would have had to live with those three stuck pixels stabbing me in the eye.

Rudstock
01-26-09, 11:38 AM
Where did you notice that!? Hope it wasn't ncixus...

ecost.com http://www.ecost.com/Detail.aspx?edp=41716911&navid=155441519

nd4spdbh2
01-26-09, 02:25 PM
i must give dell some MAD MAD props to their RMA dept... called them up was speaking to an indian techie who spoke freakin awesome english within 3 min. Told him my problems and that i would just like a full refund, he said no prob, put me on hold for 2 min, came back had an RMA number and case number. asked for my email to send me a prepaid ups shipping label. simple as printing out the label packaging up the monitor and drop it off at a ups store.

Quigsby
01-26-09, 02:27 PM
That really wasn't meant to be a reflection of you, just that the system is now so ridiculous we have to pay extra to actually get a flawless product.

Kayden, that's exactly where I was leading with my original question.

mxthunder
01-26-09, 07:25 PM
Great... I didnt even notice that. It better be OK or im going to be really ****ed. :bang head:bang head Cant believe i missed that.
It does still have full manufacturer warranty however..

yes ndfspd I will look and get that info for you when it arrives. Should be tomorrow. Im not too exited about it anymore. Ill probably end up returning it and getting one from ncixus.

mxthunder
01-29-09, 05:25 PM
Received my monitor on Tuesday. Everything is great, but it was missing the DVI cable. Called samsung and they agreed to ship me out one. No dead pixels, screen looks amazing, still messing with the settings, I have a little white crecent shape at the top of the screen(only visible when the screen is totally black IE loading a game or something). It also leans to the left a little and I cant figure out why, so I wedged a napkin underneath the stand for now.

tranceaddict
01-30-09, 04:05 AM
I'm really debating between the BenQ G2400WD and the Samsung T240...

Their specs seem to be pretty much the same (well, except for Samsung using their Dynamic Contrast ratio as advertising...), except that the T240 looks a helluva lot better.

Any input into these two monitors? They will be used for gaming, so any large noticeable degree of input lag would be a deal breaker. Though I have a Dell E228WFP right now and never noticed any issues with it.

bump...

I would also love to know since I'm stuck between those two monitors.

mrgoodkat
01-30-09, 10:53 PM
I would stay away from Samsung TOC monitors. They are not the SyncMaster panels of old. I own a TOC TV, and I thought it would be nice to grab a TOC monitor too. After a test drive, I wasn't impressed at all. Then again I'm spoiled by my Sammy TV...

I ended up going with the HP w2207h. Best TN I have seen. Great, rich colors. Almost shockingly good black levels. Great contrast. Plenty of options. Solidly built. Glossy screen.

And you can get it for $220.

nd4spdbh2
01-30-09, 11:09 PM
i think ima probably be gettin the new dell 22incher 2209WA

lookin like its gonna be 300 USD

IPS PANNEL!!!
22 inch 1680x1050 @ 75hz!!
178/178* viewing angles
5ms responce

thats what im talkin about.

mrgoodkat
01-31-09, 06:59 PM
Do me a favor and report back in when you get it, if you get it anytime soon. I still have about 2 weeks to return my HP. Like I said, its nice, but its not an IPS, and at $300, the 2209 looks great.

Im definitely not excited about having a monitor shipped after I had my Samsung TV shipped. It was a nightmare as I had to send it back 3 times, and it ended up costing me more than I saved by purchasing it online instead of a B&M.

So let me know about build quality. Dead pixels, flashlighting, etc. :)

I still have my first LCD from 7 years ago. Its a Dell, and its sill flawless.

nd4spdbh2
01-31-09, 08:39 PM
Do me a favor and report back in when you get it, if you get it anytime soon. I still have about 2 weeks to return my HP. Like I said, its nice, but its not an IPS, and at $300, the 2209 looks great.

Im definitely not excited about having a monitor shipped after I had my Samsung TV shipped. It was a nightmare as I had to send it back 3 times, and it ended up costing me more than I saved by purchasing it online instead of a B&M.

So let me know about build quality. Dead pixels, flashlighting, etc. :)

I still have my first LCD from 7 years ago. Its a Dell, and its sill flawless.

the cool thing about dell is if you have a prob they cover the shipping costs... they send you a ups prepaid label in an email... print it out package up box put label on box and do one of 2 things... 1 take to ups store or hub, 2 while on the phone with dell schedule a pickup at your house by ups.

ill report back if i do end up gettin it.

Alucard
02-03-09, 01:01 AM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014181

one of the newegg reviews explains it is better than the more expensive G2400WD

Avyer
02-04-09, 07:35 PM
So I'm stuck between the BenQ E2400HD, ASUS VH242H, and the BenQ G2400WD...

Which one should I go with? Am I skipping one I should be considering?

nd4spdbh2
02-05-09, 09:20 AM
So I'm stuck between the BenQ E2400HD, ASUS VH242H, and the BenQ G2400WD...

Which one should I go with? Am I skipping one I should be considering?

none.... Dell 2209WA

Alucard
02-05-09, 04:43 PM
I think I am about to buy the e2400hd myself. I think 1080 would be nice, and I want bigger than 22" for a good price.

mxthunder
02-05-09, 10:36 PM
Well it turns out I didnt get such a good deal afterall. The package was missing the DVI cable, so I called samsung and they sent me a new one, after arguing about if it was suppose to come with one or not. Free of charge. Ok, thats not so bad. I get the DVI cable hooked up and turn on the PC only to notice a thin black line going across the top of my screen. Its not so bad in windows but in games its very annoying. Now im at a loss. I feel like calling them and screaming, but im sure they will make me pay for shipping when I send it in. This whole monitor situation has been a nightmare.

Avyer
02-06-09, 11:58 PM
I took the dive on the BenQ E2400HD, see what happens when I get it... Going to be a big up grade from my old philips 190S anyways.

gigabit
02-13-09, 05:44 PM
Well it turns out I didnt get such a good deal afterall. The package was missing the DVI cable, so I called samsung and they sent me a new one, after arguing about if it was suppose to come with one or not. Free of charge. Ok, thats not so bad. I get the DVI cable hooked up and turn on the PC only to notice a thin black line going across the top of my screen. Its not so bad in windows but in games its very annoying. Now im at a loss. I feel like calling them and screaming, but im sure they will make me pay for shipping when I send it in. This whole monitor situation has been a nightmare.
Thats why you should of went with a DELL.Seriously DELL is awesome with this stuff

nd4spdbh2
02-13-09, 06:59 PM
Thats why you should of went with a DELL.Seriously DELL is awesome with this stuff

yup if you read my posts about the rma i did on the sp2309w their support is insane crazy awesome.

gigabit
02-13-09, 08:50 PM
yup if you read my posts about the rma i did on the sp2309w their support is insane crazy awesome.
agree 100%!!!!!!!!!!! Are you getting a 2209WA nd4spdbh2 ?

nd4spdbh2
02-13-09, 09:21 PM
agree 100%!!!!!!!!!!! Are you getting a 2209WA nd4spdbh2 ?

yup once my monies is returned by dell. 2209WA is where its at... my other option is the T220 which is 250ish... and the extra 50 bucks is so worth it.

mxthunder
02-14-09, 07:22 AM
LOL well afterall it was not a black line at the top of my screen, it was just a reflection from the top plastic piece because its so shiny lol. So now I have my dvi cable and everything is good. I would buy again if I had the chance.

Vsonic
02-15-09, 08:09 AM
I took the dive on the BenQ E2400HD, see what happens when I get it... Going to be a big up grade from my old philips 190S anyways.

I was gonna recommend BenQ V2400W, it has higher res.. but well, E2400Hd is good too

munchie21
02-18-09, 02:00 AM
The BenQ E2200 HD is pretty nice as well, I'm considering it myself right now as well, but will head over to my friends house sometime soon to check out his. I should probably post a new thread and see what others think, but what I've gathered so far is this:

It costs around $220~$280 dollars, depending how lucky you are I guess, I've even heard of under $200 bucks, all brand new too!

Full HD
21.5"
HDMI Support
1920x1080
2ms response time
1080p

You should look into this monitor, I hear only good things about it! I've looked into a lot of reviews on this monitor and they all seem to favor it. BenQ also has a really great 3 year warranty on most their products; however, I believe it will vary on the location you buy it from though.

mxthunder
03-16-09, 12:18 PM
I would like you all to know about my experience with the Samsung T220.
I ordered one of these Jan 23rd. It died 4 weeks later. I sent it in to samsung to have it serviced, and it came back totally dead, just as I send it out!!! After battling with Samsung on the phone for an hour, I finally got them to refund my money.
My next mistake was to buy another brand new one of these monitors and have it overnighted to my house from Canada. I open up the box, set it up and gues what??? Its TOTALLY DEAD!!!!!!

DO NOT BUY SAMSUNG T220! This monitor is a joke!

Also... ncixus.com is a horrible place to buy from. Despite the great deals they offer, the customer support is horrible. I have tried to call the RMA/customer service # at least 5 times now and have not gotten through. The tech support line kept me on hold for a ridiculous amount of time as well.

gigabit
03-16-09, 03:56 PM
I would like you all to know about my experience with the Samsung T220.
I ordered one of these Jan 23rd. It died 4 weeks later. I sent it in to samsung to have it serviced, and it came back totally dead, just as I send it out!!! After battling with Samsung on the phone for an hour, I finally got them to refund my money.
My next mistake was to buy another brand new one of these monitors and have it overnighted to my house from Canada. I open up the box, set it up and gues what??? Its TOTALLY DEAD!!!!!!

DO NOT BUY SAMSUNG T220! This monitor is a joke!

Also... ncixus.com is a horrible place to buy from. Despite the great deals they offer, the customer support is horrible. I have tried to call the RMA/customer service # at least 5 times now and have not gotten through. The tech support line kept me on hold for a ridiculous amount of time as well.
When you get your money back buy the DELL 2209WA

munchie21
03-17-09, 01:48 AM
I would like you all to know about my experience with the Samsung T220.
I ordered one of these Jan 23rd. It died 4 weeks later. I sent it in to samsung to have it serviced, and it came back totally dead, just as I send it out!!! After battling with Samsung on the phone for an hour, I finally got them to refund my money.
My next mistake was to buy another brand new one of these monitors and have it overnighted to my house from Canada. I open up the box, set it up and gues what??? Its TOTALLY DEAD!!!!!!

DO NOT BUY SAMSUNG T220! This monitor is a joke!

Also... ncixus.com is a horrible place to buy from. Despite the great deals they offer, the customer support is horrible. I have tried to call the RMA/customer service # at least 5 times now and have not gotten through. The tech support line kept me on hold for a ridiculous amount of time as well.


Yeah... seriously switch it up haha. Perhaps it's also just from that website, where the products suck. Dell, BenQ, and Viewsonic make great monitors too!

nd4spdbh2
03-17-09, 12:53 PM
When you get your money back buy the DELL 2209WA

hells ya i love my 2209wa its THE best 22inch monitor out there.... and is much better than any 16:9 1080p 21.5 or 23incher IMO.

mxthunder
03-17-09, 10:18 PM
where can I get one online?

Quigsby
03-18-09, 08:34 AM
where can I get one online?

The 2209WA? Go to www.dell.com, search for the 2209WA.

nd4spdbh2
03-18-09, 09:45 AM
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=320-7825

theres the direct link