need more power!!!!!!!

[POL-tec2002]

ok i just o/c my 700mhz celly to 850mhz. but i cant get it any higher i think its my volatge it goes up to 1.95 is there any way to get more volts into the cpu???

[Jon]

If 1.95V doesn't do the job I'd be afraid to try much more...wouldn't think you'd get much more out of it if 850 is all you're getting now anyway.

I needed to wrap the VID pins on my PIII 700 to hit 933 so I could get 2.12V through it but I don't recommend that voltage to anyone. You can do the wire trick if you want but what happens afterwards is all on you. Just do a search for VID pin and you'll find several links to the tutorial.

[radadman]

I agree with Jon. Anything over 1.95 is only going to get you a few Mhz's.

[The Doors]

Hi POL-tec2002, welcome to the Forum,
Generally 1.85v are enough for this kind of chip, are you sure that the temps are fine?
never above 40-45 degree C @full load! what kind of HeatSink & thermal paste are you using?

[POL-tec2002]

i am using antec reference silver thermal compound and i am using a spezze cooler it is amd recomended i get temps of about 30-35 C My voltage is at 1.80

[Yodums]

POL is those temperature under full load temperatures or idle?

Because if it is idle we don't want to know that we want to know your full load temperatures.

Once you get your full load temperatures tell us that because it maybe holding you back.

Try upping the voltage to 1.85 if your full load temperature is 40-44

Then go for something a tad higher.

YODUMS

[The Doors]

And if you want still vid pin your chip for an higher voltage (onestly not suggested) take a look here (http://www.wildandyc.co.uk/pieces/vidpin/), there's also on the Overclockers.com home page into the tips section, but I don't remember where is it :rolleyes:

[POL-tec2002]

how high do you think that i should put my fsb, my multipyer is 10.5 and my fsb is at 85mhz. how high sould the pci bus be?

[The Doors]

Well, if your temps are referred @full load (100% Cpu load) it's better to go with a Fsb@100Mhz with 1.85v, where the Agp/Pci bus will be in the specs (66/33Mhz) but probably you have to check the Agp divider, depends by the mobo.

[POL-tec2002]

where sould i check on the agp driver. i played tony hawk pro scater 2 and then i turned off my computer and checked the temps.

[The Doors]

First of all you have not to turn off your Pc to check the temps, you can use MotherBoardMonitor (http://mbm.livewiredev.com/) that reads the Mobo sensors directly in Windoz, and about the Agp divider, well, take a look on the Mobo User Manual for a possible jumper ;)

[POL-tec2002]

Tell me if this is the pci thing it says that the celeron is based on a 66mhz,/100mhz package

[The Doors]

If you are speaking of the Agp divider, you're right, infact with a Fsb@66Mhz the divider must be set on 1/1 of ther Fsb, but @100Mhz must be 2/3 (66Mhz).

[POL-tec2002]

so do you recomend me putting my fsb to 100mhz? If it is that agp thing. well it fry my hard drive?

[POL-tec2002]

ok i put my fsb to 83mhz, and i got 875mhz. but when i tried for 100mhz fsb it wouldnt boot. Is there any way to make it work at 100 mhz fsb? Oh yah my voltage is at 1.90 my temps are the same thing.

[Yodums]

I don't know how well those 700 Celeron's overclock.

But I think you may need to add some more voltage.

You should REALLY download Motherboard Monitor and download a stress program eg: Prime 95 run it for an hour and check the temperature that would be your full load.

I'd bet the reason why you see no change is that THPS2 doesn't utilize 100% and by the time its rebooting it has time to cool off and it'll show way off, thus it is inaccurate what your giving us.

To go further don't push the fsb to 100fsb until you get those temperatures @ full load.

Yodums

[The Doors]

Originally posted by POL-tec2002
ok i put my fsb to 83mhz, and i got 875mhz. but when i tried for 100mhz fsb it wouldnt boot. Is there any way to make it work at 100 mhz fsb? Oh yah my voltage is at 1.90 my temps are the same thing.
Looking the User Manual, I found that there are different settings available for the 'External Clock (Pci)', you have to set the 100(1/3) so the Pci bus will be in the specs (33Mhz) coz 1/3 of 100Mhz is 33Mhz, but first of all check seriously your Cpu temps @full load, for example with Prime95 or Stability test, coz higher temps brings system instability, and to the extreme can kill your chip!
Generally your chip with a good cooling section works with a Fsb@100Mhz and more, like you can check looking on the Overclockers.com HomePage, into the Cpu DataBase.

I hope it helps you ;)

[POL-tec2002]

ok i got a hard ware monitor from my driver cd for my mother board. i just checked my temps (when it turned on my computer) and they are at 22c but when i played a game it went up to around 30-35 full load. Then i put up my fsb to 100mhz and the voltage to 1.95 but it wouldnt boot. Is there any way to make it work? But now my fsb is at 83mhz. and the cpu speed is at 875 mhz. My goal is to get to 900mhz or higher. If there is a way to make it work like that please tell me.

[The Doors]

Well, try to go with a lower voltage, generally 1.8-1.85v are enough for this kind of chip, and rise a little the mem modules voltage too (3.4-3.5v instead of 3.3v).

[POL-tec2002]

i think before i'm going to o/c more i need that test Prime 95 where you get it?

[The Doors]

Take a look here (http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm) for Prime95, or here (http://www.vtoy.fi/jv16/shtml/othersoft.shtml) for Stability Test ;)

[Yodums]

Here are the direct link files so from this hyperlink it'll open the download box.

MotherBoard Monitor 5.1 (http://www.aoafiles.com/dafiles/CPU_and_Motherboard_Files/MBM51.EXE)

Prime95 (http://www.aoafiles.com/dafiles/CPU_and_Motherboard_Files/CPU_Stability_Testing/prime95.zip)

You can thank Pinky for his FTP hosting.

Yodums

[POL-tec2002]

i am going the test and it wount stop for some reson :mad: any suggestions?

[POL-tec2002]

crap!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: my brother turned off my Prime 95 test and it was on for about 3h30min. now i have to do it over. should i do the cpu warmer test insted of the normal one? and how do you raise the mem modual voltage like you said to do?

[The Doors]

Well, to rise the mem modules voltage take a look into the Bios for something like Vio, generally setted on 3.3v, and about the Prime95 test, well, I'm not very experienced about, I use other kind of programs to test the stability, but I remember to have used the normal test too.

[POL-tec2002]

i did the warmer test and the temps were at 40c and i ran the test for about 2hours. is that slowing me down?

[The Doors]

Absolutly not, have you tried to set mem modules timings more conservative? Set into the Bios Ras & cas delay on 3 instead of 2, or better via Spd if available.

[POL-tec2002]

okay i changes those things but i dont know were the via thing is can you give me some other names for it. and i tried to raise the fsb to 84 and it wouldnt boot up. any thing else to do.

[The Doors]

OK at this point I have to explain why I have suggested all that parameters:

VCore (or Cpu voltage) generally is rised to satisfy the bigger request of energy of your chip at higher FSB.
Vio (or mem modules voltage) like the Vcore, but generally is needed at very high Fsb.

At this point we have tried everything or really close, so, considering all the other peripherals in your PC, I suppose that is your 'old' HD that limit the OC thing, infact using a FSB of 80Mhz, that give a nice 850Mhz, let work the Pci clock very out of the specs, @40Mhz! instead of 33.3Mhz, and going with more high Fsb freq will increase the Pci bus too, and the only possible solution, but not sure, is using a 'newer' Hd that generally can handle higher Pci bus.
Higher Pci bus can give probs with HD, with possible Fat corruption and lost of data, and malfanction of the other peripherals, especially Nic cards & Vid cards. This is the reason of my suggestion to go with a Fsb of 100Mhz, coz at that freq. the Mobo divider can be set on 1/3 of the Fsb, instead of 1/2, and the Pci will be perfectly in the specs of 33.3Mhz, but your chip seems to don't like that freq. so for me no other way to go, probably you have got an unlucky chip, that's all, I'm sorry :)

[POL-tec2002]

thanks lot the doors and all of you that have helped me out.

[The Doors]

It's a pleasure for me POL-tec2002,
just to be sure, try to check other opinions about, and after let me know ;)

Good Luck, Adriano.

[TUK101]

Originally posted by The Doors
OK at this point I have to explain why I have suggested all that parameters:

VCore (or Cpu voltage) generally is rised to satisfy the bigger request of energy of your chip at higher FSB.
Vio (or mem modules voltage) like the Vcore, but generally is needed at very high Fsb.

At this point we have tried everything or really close, so, considering all the other peripherals in your PC, I suppose that is your 'old' HD that limit the OC thing, infact using a FSB of 80Mhz, that give a nice 850Mhz, let work the Pci clock very out of the specs, @40Mhz! instead of 33.3Mhz, and going with more high Fsb freq will increase the Pci bus too, and the only possible solution, but not sure, is using a 'newer' Hd that generally can handle higher Pci bus.
Higher Pci bus can give probs with HD, with possible Fat corruption and lost of data, and malfanction of the other peripherals, especially Nic cards & Vid cards. This is the reason of my suggestion to go with a Fsb of 100Mhz, coz at that freq. the Mobo divider can be set on 1/3 of the Fsb, instead of 1/2, and the Pci will be perfectly in the specs of 33.3Mhz, but your chip seems to don't like that freq. so for me no other way to go, probably you have got an unlucky chip, that's all, I'm sorry :)
Exactly, I have had a couple of chips that wouldnt post on the in between settings, but at the higher standard settings, (100,133) it would run great. You may even try lowering that voltage down to stock setting and then try to reboot at 100 fsb and see what happens. :beer: