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UserName
01-16-02, 01:39 AM
Has anyone done any work on chained Bongs?
If you run the water out of the first bong and into the second would it get colder?
sort of like a hookah
:burn:
Christoph
01-16-02, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by UserName
Has anyone done any work on chained Bongs?
If you run the water out of the first bong and into the second would it get colder?
Chained bongs <giggle>.
Since a good bong *should* get you below ambient, I don't see any advantage to it, unless maybe you're running a big beefy pelt and the temps you're getting with one bong just aren't low enough.
The major problems would be that you'd lose much more water than with just one bong (not 2x though). You'd also lose water in proportion to the effectiveness of the bongs at cooling (change in temp of water is proportional to the loss of water). You'd also have twice the maintenance (you do have to clean them out on occasion) and you'd need two pumps (unless you could use gravity, and then you should have one large bong anyway).
In short and IMHO, it wouldn't hurt, but the extra cost (money and labor) would outweigh the benifits.
Sorry if that's unclear.
VashTheStampede
01-16-02, 03:21 AM
I had posed the question of what someone would do with a 50/55 gallon drum awhile back, someone mentioned putting a divider inside, either splitting it in half or into four sections, and make 2 or 4 bongs within the 50/55 gallon drum.
Haven't been able to pull it off for two reasons:
1) it's KINDA big
2) The company is no longer throwing the drums away, but shipping them back to have them refilled. Though we currently have two in the shop right now, I might be able to get ahold of one.
Then comes in the fact of pump power. Does your pump have the power to supply flow to two, three or four bongs and then to the waterblock, or in any similar setup?
~Vash~
Greedy Guido
01-16-02, 03:54 AM
There is not point in using two cooling towers. The best idea is to make the first one big enough to get with a couple of degrees of the wet bulb temp.
This one I designed and made gets to within 1°C of the wet bulb temp. To get the extra 1°C I would have to double the size again.
http://www.users.bigpond.com/jasonfvella/pic/Cooling Tower.jpg
UserName
01-16-02, 06:10 PM
So no one has done it?
I was thinking that it might be easier to get my bulb wet if i chained the bongs. :D
Insted of going the brute force way with a bigger bong i thought to supply cooler water to a second bong. The idea being the evaporation would be working on cooler water to get it even cooler, much like chaining vacum pumps.
Does anyone insulate their bongs?
Guido i see you vent outside. If you go that far why not use a rad? At least in the winter. How often do you clean your bong?
UN,
Actually if you look at the pics of my Ice cube project that's what I did...I ran temps with the thing running, and I even added fans the temp dif was 1 degree F the hot side was the pump heheh figures. I did dual cylinders mainly to increase water supply without having a ten foot tall cylinder. As of yet testing on my idea is waiting on epoxy to set..........
Pepsi
UserName
01-16-02, 06:39 PM
Pepsi, do you have a link?
Look up evap coolers and get some data from there. This will give you the max cooling ability at a given air temp and humidity. Generall I am running 12 degrees farenheit below ambient. Mx according to the charts I looked up would be fifteen degrees for the average temp and humidity in which I live. I thought about it but like the others said, expense and upkeep to gain a minor amount.
VashTheStampede
01-16-02, 08:16 PM
Two bongs don't make a right or is that, one good bong deserves another?
*Yeah bad I know*
~Vash~
UserName
01-16-02, 08:18 PM
For a horriably punny joke you deserve a time out. Go to your room.
The temptation was just tooooo much....:D
GoldenTiger
01-16-02, 10:27 PM
Can anyone post bong design text or diagrams? I'm about to setup a watercooling rig, using a bong, so any ideas would be nice :). I want to make the best I can the first time around and not have to scrap it to remake :)!
GoldenTiger
01-16-02, 10:28 PM
I saw Pepsi's thread with his setup. Here's the link :):
http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58781
UserName
01-17-02, 12:00 AM
From here (http://www.overclockers.com/topiclist/index31.asp#WATER COOLING)try this (http://www.overclockers.com/articles389/).
VashTheStampede
01-17-02, 12:08 AM
Ooooh, purdy bong. Damn I will have to read that thread more when I have some more time, but attached is my basic concept of the basic watercooling bong. It would be made out of a PVC T-shaped piece. Of course the bottom is sealed with a PVC cap. You've got to occasionally refill the bong though, since it is an evaporative cooler.
~Vash~
if your going for a bong of that scale you should try a washing machine pump. if you read deep in to that thread started by pepsi he describes the use of them
MiseryQ
03-11-02, 08:57 PM
Maybe I'm wrong but a bong can get you close to the wet bulb... That would be the lowest temp you can get... Why would you need two when I set up correctly will do?!?
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