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MadMan007
01-16-02, 09:54 AM
I guess this is the best place to ask about HD's...

I am buidling a new system in about a month and am looking for advice on HD. I have narrowed down the field to these:
Maxtor d740x (80 GB)
WD1000BB
IBM 120GXP (80 GB)

80 gigs is enough honestly, I keep my HD clean and have only a 9 gig now (lol) so anything modern would be better I read a French site review of the 120GXP, it looked sweet (beat the WD drive) but I am scared of IBM drives now cuz of the 60GXP fiasco, although I don't believe a company like IBM would do the same mistake twice. The WD looks solid all around, the Maxtor is nice cuz it is less expensive. I am aware of the "-SE" WD's but IMO the slight gain in disk performance isn't worth it to me because I don't do enough tasks that are really disk-performance bound. I'd rather spend the $$ on a faster vid card or more RAM.

I will be OC'ing the PCI bus (no more than 5MHz over though), so I need a drive that has a solid OC record too.

Who here has any experience with these drives? Or are there others that you could recommended?

Thanks,
MadMan

Ridenow
01-16-02, 10:25 AM
I hate Maxtor drives. Where I work we maintain a network of computers. Maxtor is the brand with the most failures. They are cheap for a reason.

WD is not my favorite brand, but they are ok. I have not had a chance to play with the current IBM drives, so I can't say. Seagate and Fujitsu are my favorites.

Kingslayer
01-16-02, 10:55 AM
I'm with Ridenow. I would look for other alternatives. Maxtor's QC is getting consistantly worse. WD has always been shoddy. And there are alot of people having troubles with those IBM GXP's.

Seagate and Fuji make great drives.

Dissolved
01-16-02, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Kingslayer
I'm with Ridenow. I would look for other alternatives. Maxtor's QC is getting consistantly worse. WD has always been shoddy. And there are alot of people having troubles with those IBM GXP's.

Seagate and Fuji make great drives.

whos having trouble with the 120gxp ibm drives?
im about to buy 2 80gig models..
please update me ?
i thought the 75gxp series was the only problems?

Kingslayer
01-16-02, 12:30 PM
Ive been seeing problems here, and other forums and sites having problems with anything labelled GXP.

Most of them seem to be the same thing. They start the "Click of Death" or develop a ton of bad sectors.

Dissolved
01-16-02, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Kingslayer
Ive been seeing problems here, and other forums and sites having problems with anything labelled GXP.

Most of them seem to be the same thing. They start the "Click of Death" or develop a ton of bad sectors.

well the 120gxp just came out, so i dont think its those...
the 75gxp are the bad ones..
the 60gxp series is suppose to be the fastest and best hdds out..

MadMan007
01-16-02, 03:37 PM
Yeah, I would agree with you about the IBM's. I had left them off my list until I saw that there were new models. And yes, you will find the "click-of-death" is largely limited to the 75GXP (except for the normal rate of HD failure.) Wish I had bookmarked that French site, the benchmarks were impressive!

Not surprisingly, I am getting a lot of different "this brand is crap" responses (at other boards too.) People always remember the ones that fail...what about ones that just kept chugging along?? After all I would rather be told "this one is still running great" than "this one is crap." The former is more helpful. ;)

NEway, keep them coming! and TIA!
MadMan

Dissolved
01-16-02, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by MadMan007
Yeah, I would agree with you about the IBM's. I had left them off my list until I saw that there were new models. And yes, you will find the "click-of-death" is largely limited to the 75GXP (except for the normal rate of HD failure.) Wish I had bookmarked that French site, the benchmarks were impressive!

Not surprisingly, I am getting a lot of different "this brand is crap" responses (at other boards too.) People always remember the ones that fail...what about ones that just kept chugging along?? After all I would rather be told "this one is still running great" than "this one is crap." The former is more helpful. ;)

NEway, keep them coming! and TIA!
MadMan

well i had my 20gig ibm fail.. but i think its cuz the case got too hot.. and i didnt have good case flow, seeing there was only one case fan.. but other then that im still gonna order the 2 80gig 120gxp's.. if they fail, then ill just get new ones.. not a big deal.. i do have 3 years on them ;)

Mpegger
01-16-02, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Kingslayer
WD has always been shoddy.

Is this from personnal experience or word of mouth?

I've always had and always used WD Caviars. My old 486 that came with a 250mb WD (which was top of the line at the time) is more then 8 years old. And guess what? It still runs like new without a single bad sector what-so-ever. I've only had 1 WD go bad on me, but that was expected because WD themselves admitted that it was a bad batch of drives. But even then it lasted more then 4 years, and looks like I may be able to bring it back to life (if even for a short time to backup the data).

To me, WD and Seagate have always been top of the line, with IBM next, and Maxtors and Fujitsus dead last.

Yodums
01-16-02, 03:57 PM
Seagate
Quantm

Would be the two brands that I'd go with, they are quiet and very good. I've barely heard anyone experiencing problems with those brands and if you do they have a fast RMA service.

Yodums

Dissolved
01-16-02, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Yodums
Seagate
Quantm

Would be the two brands that I'd go with, they are quiet and very good. I've barely heard anyone experiencing problems with those brands and if you do they have a fast RMA service.

Yodums

maxtor bought out Quantm i believe, and there not making those drives nemore.. so i think the new ibm 120gxp would be the best bet to buy now..

Yodums
01-16-02, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Dissolved


maxtor bought out Quantm i believe, and there not making those drives nemore.. so i think the new ibm 120gxp would be the best bet to buy now..

Not sure about that as my friend told me he just RMAed a Quantm drive and they replaced it with a 40Gig Drive since they didn't make 20gig anymore.

So there factories would have been shut down or something..

Dissolved
01-16-02, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Yodums


Not sure about that as my friend told me he just RMAed a Quantm drive and they replaced it with a 40Gig Drive since they didn't make 20gig anymore.

So there factories would have been shut down or something..

oh, well a few ppl that got Quantm drives rma'ed got back maxtor drives..
there were some articles in maxium PC last month about this..

Just shoot
01-17-02, 08:13 AM
I would like to see were people have been having trouble with the 60GXP's. Every form or article I've read being bad was directed towards the 75GXP.

I have Two of the 40 gig 60GXP running Raid 0 and they or unreal fast compared to any WD, MAXTOR bench marks I've seen. The 60 GXP have been Known to be the fastest in single drives or raid for both throughput read and writes correct me if I'm wrong.