Best radiator and water pump?

[rivercom9]

What is currently the best radiator and water pump out there on the market?

[rivercom9]

I forgot about the $$$ factor. Whats the best combo for about $100-$200? Im still a newbie and I'm thinking about going water. Where can I get some water wetter and distilled water? Thanks for all of your opinions.

[Yodums]

I like the DangerDen Cube as a radiator which is 60 bucks.

And for pump, Eheim 1250 would be the best but its expensive.

Where MaxiJet 1200 is only 20 bucks and it is very good water pump.

Yodums

[Morbid]

I heard the SuperCube restricts waterflow something bad. So i'm getting the Eheim 1250 and The Heater Core from DD. :D

I'm new to this whole water-cooling craziness too hehe

[Warlord2]

for pump go with the Eheim 1250
for radiator, any heatercore will work, I have a DD cube and it does a nice job.
for waterbock go with the Maze2

[rivercom9]

for the water block, will the Maze2 work on the new athlon xp's? Also, if I want to use a pelt on an xp (Probly OCed to 2000+ or more), whats the pest pelt for this setup?

[UserName]

Prolly the best rad you could get would be a VW radiator. Cheap at 20$. Something a little smaller would be a heater core for a car. Most heater cors would beat any rad you but, but might not fit in your case.

[VashTheStampede]

With any used radiator or heater core, I suggest you stop by your local auto store and pick up a bottle of Flush And Fill or Radiator Cleaner. I will clean out the interior of the rad/heater core, removing all deposits that have formed up over time and improve cooling.

As for the pelt setup, one should be just fine. With the MAZE2-2 you can run a single 50mm pelt or 2 40mm pelts, but remember, you have to prevent/protect against condensation. Yes the MAZE is just fine with the XP.

~Vash~

[UserName]

Cheap water block here (http://www.agaweb.com/coolcpu/build.htm#2)

[eh?]

ok 100-200 is kinda alot for the pump and raditor, i got my 295gph pump for 19.95 and it works great. I got my rad for 10 its an old heater core that works perfect

[Voodoo Rufus]

Let's see. Eheim 1250 can't be beat I think.

Blackice Extreme or any old copper heater core.

[rivercom9]

What are the differences between rads and heatercores?

[ButcherUK]

A heatercore is basically a small radiator, In a car the heatercore heats the passenger comparment rather than dissipating engine heat hence the different name.

[rivercom9]

Does anyone have a pic of a heatercore so that I know what they look like.

[Diggrr]

Here's one. The url for the vendor is in the pic too.

[ColdMiser]

Pump: Eheim 1048
Rad: Blackice Extreme or a heater core

[res0r9lm]

black ice will fit just a but any set up and is rated for 419 watts
heater core is alot cheaper if it will fit

[Silversinksam]

Originally posted by Diggrr
Here's one. The url for the vendor is in the pic too.


http://www.heatercore4u.com/2-459.jpg



Giggrr, That vendor has a ton of suitable heatcores.

I just bought something like the one you posted.

The Big Momma with 1/2 fittings

http://www.overclockers.com/articles481/finrad.jpg

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by Silversinksam



http://www.heatercore4u.com/2-459.jpg



Giggrr, That vendor has a ton of suitable heatcores.

I just bought something like the one you posted.

The Big Momma with 1/2 fittings

http://www.overclockers.com/articles481/finrad.jpg
big mama supposed to be awesome,ocwc isn't selling them anymore replacing with black ice extreme

[Silversinksam]

res0r9lm

That link diggrr, posted:

http://www.heatercore4u.com/Make.htm

Has heater cores that are identicle to the Big Momma....Only thing is you'd have to solder the proper fitting, right?

[rivercom9]

Is there anywhere else that I can get a "Big Momma" radiator, or will a normal car heater core suffice? I want only the best radiator there is and theres no doubt that Enheim 1250 pumps are pretty darn good.

[Voodoo Rufus]

You can get a Big momma on caseetc.com I think. There's the Danger Den heater core on there too. Don't know how competitive the prices are though.

[Diggrr]

The Black Ice radiators are very nice, and will handle almost anything you can throw at it. It does have some advantages to consider though. The built in shroud for mounting it and the fan is very handy. It's small dimension allows a few more mounting possibilities too. It also comes with the hose barbs installed, which can be a big plus for the "handy impaired".

Big Momma, would probably handle even more than the Black Ice, and comes with the hose barbs installed. You must however, fabricate a fan and mounting shroud.
It's basically a pre-modded heater core, but was well chosen for it's materials and construction. The core itself is edge soldered, which means the flat channels in the center are not simply dunked in liquid solder....this gives maximum heat transfer as the copper core gives up heat better than a solder covering would.

Heater cores are also very good choices, but require more handiness and modification. You must replace the 5/8 outlet pipes with hose barbs (using solder/torch or JBWeld) as well as fabricating a shroud.
There are inumerable designs out there, and they can be found in a wide selection of sizes to meet your needs.
Choosing an aluminum cored unit would require corrosion protection when used with a copper waterblock to prevent the battery effect. *you should use an anticorrosion additive anyway*

I use an '88 Ford Taurus heater core. It has the copper core, brass end tanks, and is edge soldered. Inside the core area, it has copper fins with splits in them to give off more heat than flat fins would. The fin area is about 8 x 6 inches, giving it an edge over Big Momma, though I torch soldered the fittings on and built a shroud from 6"aluminum flashing.

Choose according to your mounting space, and your level of handiness, and your willingness to part with your money.

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by Diggrr
The Black Ice radiators are very nice, and will handle almost anything you can throw at it. It does have some advantages to consider though. The built in shroud for mounting it and the fan is very handy. It's small dimension allows a few more mounting possibilities too. It also comes with the hose barbs installed, which can be a big plus for the "handy impaired".

Big Momma, would probably handle even more than the Black Ice, and comes with the hose barbs installed. You must however, fabricate a fan and mounting shroud.
It's basically a pre-modded heater core, but was well chosen for it's materials and construction. The core itself is edge soldered, which means the flat channels in the center are not simply dunked in liquid solder....this gives maximum heat transfer as the copper core gives up heat better than a solder covering would.

Heater cores are also very good choices, but require more handiness and modification. You must replace the 5/8 outlet pipes with hose barbs (using solder/torch or JBWeld) as well as fabricating a shroud.
There are inumerable designs out there, and they can be found in a wide selection of sizes to meet your needs.
Choosing an aluminum cored unit would require corrosion protection when used with a copper waterblock to prevent the battery effect. *you should use an anticorrosion additive anyway*

I use an '88 Ford Taurus heater core. It has the copper core, brass end tanks, and is edge soldered. Inside the core area, it has copper fins with splits in them to give off more heat than flat fins would. The fin area is about 8 x 6 inches, giving it an edge over Big Momma, though I torch soldered the fittings on and built a shroud from 6"aluminum flashing.

Choose according to your mounting space, and your level of handiness, and your willingness to part with your money. blackice extreme is the best right now

[muddocktor]

I'm presently building up a P3 system that will be using a 120 watt pelt, Dangerden Maze1C1 and a dtekcustoms radiator/shroud. It comes with 1/2" barbs installed and the radiator combo is just a little over $50. Here is a picture of the radiator/shroud combo:

[muddocktor]

One other thing to think about if you are going to use a pelt is that you will definitely need another psu just for the pelt. The one I ended up buying was around $140-150 shipped. It is powerful enough to power a 172 watt pelt. The 120 and 172 watt pelts that Dangerden is selling run at 24.6 volts, so you can't even try to use an old AT psu. So, unless you are good at scrounging up a good psu, going with a pelt can easily add $200 more to your system.

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by muddocktor
One other thing to think about if you are going to use a pelt is that you will definitely need another psu just for the pelt. The one I ended up buying was around $140-150 shipped. It is powerful enough to power a 172 watt pelt. The 120 and 172 watt pelts that Dangerden is selling run at 24.6 volts, so you can't even try to use an old AT psu. So, unless you are good at scrounging up a good psu, going with a pelt can easily add $200 more to your system.

[rivercom9]

How do I hook up two PSU's inot one system, and then have them turn on at the same time? Also, can I place the pelt directly onto the core or will I need to put something between the pelt and the CPU core?

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by rivercom9
How do I hook up two PSU's inot one system, and then have them turn on at the same time? Also, can I place the pelt directly onto the core or will I need to put something between the pelt and the CPU core?
tap in pg signal line mine is white and tap into ground

[rivercom9]

tap in pg signal line mine is white and tap into ground

Anyone have any pics of what this would look like? Sorry, I'm more of a visual learner.:D

[rivercom9]

Whats a good pelt for an Athlon XP@1.9GHz and beyond?

[res0r9lm]

http://www.overclockwatercool.com/psu.html (http://)

[neo86]

What's wrong with a rio 180 and a cheap radiator from aquastealth? :rolleyes: If the difference isn't more than 2-3 degrees celcius I don't see the point in getting something that costs $50 more. Please excuse my ignorance (if I have it), and backup your info. :)

Hmm... would there really be a big difference between

http://www.dangerden.com/images/Kits/kp1l.gif

from DangerDen for 162 (not including shipping).

and this kit http://becooling.safeshopper.com/images/bg153kdl.jpg for 119 (not including shipping).

[rivercom9]

If that $50 extra im paying for is reliability, thats an extra $50 I'm willing to spend.