PDA

View Full Version : Question about Feser XChanger Radiators


AminoAcid
01-03-09, 01:08 PM
There are pics of the radiator like the one below that show it with plugs screwed in to the G1/4 holes. I'm wondering if the end of the radiator has holes on BOTH sides (i.e. 4 holes) such that you would typically install it by leaving two of them plugged and installing barbs in the other two. My other thought was that they just put cheap plastic plugs in the holes for storage/shipping to avoid corrosion in the rad, and that the rad only has 2 actual holes. It seems weird though that they would show pics of the rad with holes w/o plugs and holes with plugs...

I'm thinking of switching my build around and it would be really convenient to have the ability to connect barbs to either (or both) sides of the radiator.

Can someone who owns one please tell me if the rad has 2 or 4 G1/4 holes?

Thanks so much,
Amino

http://www.frozencpu.com/images/products/large/ex-rad-140_4.jpg

Conumdrum
01-03-09, 01:29 PM
Holes just on the one side.

axis01
01-03-09, 01:30 PM
There are only two holes, as shown. The plugs are there cause you buy them without barbs so you can buy the size you need.

Axis

AminoAcid
01-03-09, 02:14 PM
...ah well, that's a shame, but pretty much what I expected.
Back to the drawing board...

Thanks,
Amino

axis01
01-03-09, 02:20 PM
...ah well, that's a shame, but pretty much what I expected.
Back to the drawing board...

Thanks,
Amino

The rad will work the same either way you have it turned. Putting barbs on both sides is a bad idea as water will take the path of least resistance and a portion of the water will go straight through, without going through the rad. What would be nice is for a rad to have the ability to have barbs on both ends. That makes another set of problems but it would be nice for running rads in series.

You could drill out the other side so you have inlet on one side and outlet on the other. You'd probably have to weld a threaded bung on that side or weld a thicker piece of metal that you could safely tap for the proper threads. I highly doubt the endtank metal is thick enough to safely use without some added support.

Axis

AminoAcid
01-03-09, 02:45 PM
Actually what I wanted to do was have the rad laying flat across the top of the case with both the intake/outflow barbs facing down. Then on the top side - opposite the out-flow barb (if there were four holes) I would remove the plug and have a res. connected via a male-male G1/4 fitting.

The res. would effectively sit on top of the rad. with the rad. acting as a "T". Fluid wouldn't flow into the res, only out of it since the res. would only have one hole connected to the loop.

I just wasn't too sure about how effectively the system would bleed with this kind of setup, but I thought it'd be nice and clean.

Cheers,
Amino

axis01
01-04-09, 03:25 PM
Actually what I wanted to do was have the rad laying flat across the top of the case with both the intake/outflow barbs facing down. Then on the top side - opposite the out-flow barb (if there were four holes) I would remove the plug and have a res. connected via a male-male G1/4 fitting.

The res. would effectively sit on top of the rad. with the rad. acting as a "T". Fluid wouldn't flow into the res, only out of it since the res. would only have one hole connected to the loop.

I just wasn't too sure about how effectively the system would bleed with this kind of setup, but I thought it'd be nice and clean.

Cheers,
Amino

That wouldn't work as the pressure from the rad would fill up the reservior, instead of the reservior feeding the rad. You need to have the reservior feeding the pump. This way any air in the system should make it's way to the reservior and be trapped there instead of going to the pump.

Axis

Conumdrum
01-04-09, 03:48 PM
Actually air rises, so putting a res at the top isn't a bad idea. Water in a res above the rad IF it had the other hole would of been a great way to fill and bleed the loop. It would of been just like a T-line. No water flows through a T-line either, just flows by it.

Still, a res with water flowing is the best way, ALL the bubbles go into a chamber as the water flows by.

Froggy
01-04-09, 07:18 PM
It would take a bit of creativity, but how about this? Linky (http://www.thermochill.com/pa160.php)