Water Cooling?????

[DECODER22]

Hey Guys i was wondering if anyone has some good websites were i can get water cooling parts or systems and what do u guys think are the best systems out there Part wise????:confused: :confused:

[AntiHeiss]

I'm sure that other people will give you their opinions, but personally I don't think it gets any better than www.koolance.com (http://www.koolance.com) or www.dangerden.com (http://www.dangerden.com)

Both those places sell quality products, and it doesn't get much better than their stuff.

Good luck.

[FrozenInHI]

www.overclockershideout.com has one of the best kits out there

dangerden's blocks and pumps are great, i don't like their radiators though

www.leufkentechnologies.com has some good stuff too.

[Sketch]

I love DangerDen blocks!!! Doesn't get much better than the Maze 2. I agree with all the recomendations. Just fine what's right for you and your case. Placement, space in your case, ect... I think you get the idea.

[Koooler King]

The Koolance website has some interesting products if you want to buy an entire bare case with cooling ... I think it is in the ATX format ... the box and the cpu cooling components will run you about $200 to get started. They have options to add additional coolers for video boards, hard drives, and other mobo chipsets. I have heard there are better, forthcoming cases and systems from others soon to be out ... keep checking back!

Good luck!

Koooler King

[DECODER22]

Thx Guys:burn:

[Voodoo Rufus]

Hey, how about Overclockwatercool and Swiftech? They make good stuff too. Eheim pumps also.

[ButcherUK]

Dangerden blocks are top notch. Also for pumps Eheim are the only make - these things are solid performers, nice and robust. :)
For rad, any heatercore type rad is fine.

[trey_w]

i respomded to a question like yours earlier

stay away from overclock-watercool.com

read the post about them in the vendor discussion

or pm -Will- and ask him

[Zazuk]

make sure you go 1/2 inch fittings all around.

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by Voodoo Rufus
Hey, how about Overclockwatercool and Swiftech? They make good stuff too. Eheim pumps also.
ocwc blocks are all show and no go plus there customer service is the worst

[Voodoo Rufus]

I meant the Blackice radiators that they sell. The new Extreme model esp. I've only ordered once from them and my box came quicker with my parts than I expected. Decent email responses too. Haven't had a problem.

[Yodums]

DangerDen Maze 2
Eheim 1250 or MaxiJet 1200
DangerDen Cube

Thats like an ultimate setup right there.

I wouldn't go for Koolance after reading the review made by Joe on the watercooling section it isn't made for tough durablity at all as they had interviews. They are just made to water cool and reduce noise factors and although they have good performance, the section has a case hack section where they lowered something by 26 degrees and the setup only comes with like a 300watt psu.

Although their upcoming products maybe more something to look into as they are just expanding right now.

They'll probably include cases only, cases without psu but with a water rig and seperate parts etc.

[Voodoo Rufus]

The Cube has massive flow restriction. Nice dissipation, though. Go with a Blackice Extreme or a heater core of some sort. Can't get much better.

[ButcherUK]

Check BillA's areticle - the cube is smoked by the heatercores. Go for a heatercore rad.

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by Voodoo Rufus
I meant the Blackice radiators that they sell. The new Extreme model esp. I've only ordered once from them and my box came quicker with my parts than I expected. Decent email responses too. Haven't had a problem.
I have blackice prime cat the 3/8 connectors off and soldered 1/2
extreme is the way to go though already has 1/2 fittings plus a little thicker either one fits nicely just about any case
ocwc has a bad rep I think they just couldn't keep up with demand now they do or will no longer sell direct on their website they have link of their reseller right now I think they have 3 or 4 and are add more

[Voodoo Rufus]

The Blackice Extreme not only is thicker but is a 2 pass design so it has less PSI loss. Nice rad.

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by Voodoo Rufus
The Blackice Extreme not only is thicker but is a 2 pass design so it has less PSI loss. Nice rad. it's easy to make the prime a 2 pass also I think ocwc used to do the mod but it is pretty simple

[Voodoo Rufus]

Yeah, just use a y-connector to the inlets, drill a hole in the top, and put a 90 degree barb in it. Still doesn't have the heat capacity of the Extreme though.

[res0r9lm]

yea extreme has insane amount of heat capacity don't remember how many watts but it is way up there

[trey_w]

i own a koolance system and i will put it up against just about any water cool system there is

its a great system

[Voodoo Rufus]

The Extreme has 920W/hr. heat capacity I believe.

The new Koolance is pretty good for efficiency but I'll put mine up to any non-modded Koolance any day. Even for noise control.

[trey_w]

i did not say my koolance was the best, but in my opinion its closer to the top than the bottom

i get great cooling from my koolance, and i am not stupid, there are better cooling systems out there, but i can't see how anyone would not recommend the koolance for its performance

the looks of it have something to be desired and the price too, but it works great.

by the way, what kind of temps you gettin?

i'm going to add a 220watt pelt to the system in a few months

[Newbie_Doo]

I would recommend that you also seriously consider Swiftech (http://www.swiftnets.com/) for your watercooling needs.

[Voodoo Rufus]

You can get nice waterblocks and Eheims there.
I f you get a Swiftech block I reccomend taking off the swivel nipples and get some barbs instead in 3/8" or 1/2" ID. 3/8" OD tubing is awful small.

[Newbie_Doo]

Originally posted by Voodoo Rufus
You can get nice waterblocks and Eheims there.
I f you get a Swiftech block I reccomend taking off the swivel nipples and get some barbs instead in 3/8" or 1/2" ID. 3/8" OD tubing is awful small.

If you look on their ordering page, you can get the block with 1/2" OD (3/8 ID) swivel nipples too. I think the blocks are even the same price.

N_D

[Voodoo Rufus]

THe nipples leak if the hose puts side pressure on them. Still, it's a neat system. 1/2" OD is 3/8" ID so that would be okay.

[ButcherUK]

Originally posted by Voodoo Rufus
The Extreme has 920W/hr. heat capacity I believe.

The new Koolance is pretty good for efficiency but I'll put mine up to any non-modded Koolance any day. Even for noise control.

W/hr isn't a measure of heat capacity, it's an energy measure. I think you either mean 920W or 920 BTU/hr.

[Voodoo Rufus]

Well, since we are transferring heat energy, does it apply? If not, my mistake.

[JFettig]

my modded heatercore radiator
it was like 8x8x1 so i cut it down to like 8x3.5x1 and now the jbweld is drying the inlet/outlet that i made out of plexiglass...when that dries im gonna put my bottom on it so its all sealed off then the fittings, and shuld be dun by sunday! then goes the test on my wc system! ALL homemade!, made the block modded the radiator, got a pump and got fans and hoses and fittings....
i think this will be one of the better ones cince heatercores work better than those radiator things....
the bottom peice for the water to go thru isnt on yet
sorry about the poor quality picture

[ButcherUK]

Originally posted by Voodoo Rufus
Well, since we are transferring heat energy, does it apply? If not, my mistake.

W/hr would be for a stored amount of energy. For transfer energy per unit time is more useful, this is called power and is normally measured in watts. BTU/hr is an alternative used for thermal power calcs.

[Voodoo Rufus]

Thank you for explaining. Clears some stuff up.

[res0r9lm]

Voodoo Rufus I am setting up similar system as the one in your sig.

t bird 1400 ayhja y, blackice rad w/ 1/2" mod, panflo h1,and plan on getting ehiem 1250, shuttle ak35gtr as soon as it come available,and for a waterblock eithier swiftech mcw 462 or dangerden maze2. was wondering how well mcw 462 did for you?

[FerrariF50]

Whats a good radiator to go with a swiftech MCW372 waterclock? What is a Heater Core anyway? I saw some at Dangerden.com...Their Cubes like like it would slow down water flow..

[Voodoo Rufus]

My MCW-462 is a nice block. I like it a lot. At first it was a little frightening to put the block on the chip, just like any heatsink, but I realize now that the attachment mechanism is reliable and foolproof. It performs well. My current temps are 27C with an approx. 20C ambient. Not bad. I took off the swivel nipples and replaced them with 90 degree fittings and 1/2" ID barbs for better holding my hoses.

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by Voodoo Rufus
My MCW-462 is a nice block. I like it a lot. At first it was a little frightening to put the block on the chip, just like any heatsink, but I realize now that the attachment mechanism is reliable and foolproof. It performs well. My current temps are 27C with an approx. 20C ambient. Not bad. I took off the swivel nipples and replaced them with 90 degree fittings and 1/2" ID barbs for better holding my hoses.

I'm not too sure abut the MCW-462... You need to put stand offs on the mobo..and their is some kind of chip right by the hole and I don't want to crush it... You can see it in this picture.. The top row it's the right hole.

[Voodoo Rufus]

If the plastic standoffs don't work make some cardboard standoffs on your own that would come to the same height. You shouldn't have to worry about crushing the chip. Just make the cardboard so it will miss the chip.

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by Voodoo Rufus
If the plastic standoffs don't work make some cardboard standoffs on your own that would come to the same height. You shouldn't have to worry about crushing the chip. Just make the cardboard so it will miss the chip.

oh ok..so do both water blocks proform the same? I like the design of it..It's simple.

[Voodoo Rufus]

I personally like the mounting method better on the MCW462 than the MCW370. More secure because of the weight of the block and water inside. They perform about the same, roughly. The 462 obviously has more heat capacity for Pelts.