View Full Version : LMFAO!! The funniest laptop!!
PhoenixMDM
01-17-02, 02:36 PM
Lol, my school was cleaning out the attic, and they found this old thing. They knew i love computers, so they gave it to me.
It's gotta weigh something around 10 pounds, and i haven't turned it on yet. I'm taking pictures the whole way through, this is just hilarious!!
Here's a shot of it closed:
(the wood thing is a standard US ruler)
PhoenixMDM
01-17-02, 02:37 PM
From the side, closed:
Cool (lol)
Has it got a sound card or a pcmcia slot? That could make an underpowered mp3 playa for the car.
PhoenixMDM
01-17-02, 03:08 PM
Hahhahah! it's only got one of those dot-matrix screens!
I think that bill gates quote fits this: 640k of normal mem, 360k of extended. No PCMCIA, but it does have (lol) ISA. I think it's got a PCI in there too, can't tell right now though. I'm looking through the ISA card hole in order to see those slots.
If it has a sound card, it's very elusive! It does have one of those PC-speakers that beeped when it booted though.
A car MP3 player is a great idea, except that it's got such low memory. It might work though, i'll look into it.
I'm gonna put some sort of linux on it, i don't think it can handle windows. With no CD drive, and no place to put one, i can tell it's old. Got a 3.5 floppy though, that's the good news!
RED Hot Machine
01-17-02, 03:35 PM
That looks like a Toshiba my dad had.
The one he had run off the mains, and was a 386sx16, 3mb ram, 120mb hard disk.
It had 1 full size ISA slot and one half size.
PhoenixMDM
01-17-02, 03:38 PM
It may be the same thing! it's a toshiba, and has gotta be old. I'm making a floppy for a linux install right now, so i'll find out all about it soon.
And that half-ISA thing is probly right. It looks kinda like a PCI, but not quite, lol.
PhoenixMDM
01-17-02, 03:44 PM
OMG!! it couldn't read the linux disk i made, so i rebooted, and it loaded DOS.
The autoexec.bat file is dated 01-01-89!!!!:p
The hard drive is 268mb, 152kb used!!
This thing is hilarious! I'm gonna try to see what else is on it...
RED Hot Machine
01-17-02, 03:45 PM
What is the model number on the case, can't read it from your screen shots.
Is it something like 360000sx ?
If it is, that was close to a top of the range machine around 1989 or so. Brings back fond memories as that was one the first pc's i ever used. :p
PhoenixMDM
01-17-02, 03:48 PM
it's
T3200SX
I can take more pics if u want, i didn't want to look like a post padder!!:D
when i do a dir it takes a second or two before it lists the stuff, and then it scrolls by (comparitively) slowly! i'm so amused by this thing it's nto even funny:p
Breadfan
01-17-02, 03:52 PM
OMG thats awesome!
I've got one similar here at work...its an old Zenith...fails to boot though...I think the RAM (what little there must be) is fried. I can't remember quite what it does when it boots...I'll have to check it out again. It's huge, but does have a 3.5 floppy...its in this sorta pop-up bay behind the rather large keyboard. The thing is hilarious...but I'm sure it was hot back in '85, lol...
Mike
RED Hot Machine
01-17-02, 03:55 PM
Don't worry about posting more pics.
The only that it would be good for is a wordprocessor now or a door stop for a very big door :) .We used to run dos 6.11 and windows 3.1 on it.
Have fun :D
SteenkyBastage
01-17-02, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by PhoenixMDM
i'm so amused by this thing it's nto even funny:p
haha, you just got added to my famous quotes list.
PhoenixMDM
01-17-02, 04:06 PM
Hehehh, i got the full Windows3.1 installation, on floppies. I think i'll try it :D
And depresingly enoguh, there's no incriminating information on it. I was hoping to catch Osama Bin Laden with the classified info on this thing!:p
Bmxpunk86pl
01-17-02, 04:15 PM
268meg of hd space? not bad. i have a laptop at 25mhz 2megs of ram and a 80gig harddrive.
Put an ad up "CPU Antique Labtop" :D
Haha, that thing is not too old as the old 33mhz machine with like a 20meg hard drive or something but it'll do as a linux box or a router or mp3 player(probably take forever between the songs and loading the songs). I'd bet ram cost alot for the old machine haha.
Yodums
Mpegger
01-18-02, 04:03 AM
I wouldn't even bother trying to use it as a mp3 player if its a 386. My old 486DX100 couldn't play mp3 at full rate in stereo. I either had to play it at 44khz mono, or 22khz stereo. :p
Imagine what you'd get with a 386! :beer:
I've got a Compaq 286 laptop burried in my closet. 20meg hard drive, 1.6meg memory, 1.44meg floppy. Every thing a laptop needs, except the battery. :beer:
my friend had laptop it was top of food line it was hercules or some like that with no hd&d 2 flopys to boot ! I was looking it as miracle about 5 years ago :O
:D oki oki not as miracle but it was cinda cool in that time it had monocrome dft
MoPMatrix
01-18-02, 07:31 AM
I got one of them old laptops in my basement, forget what kind i'll have to check when I get home but it has windows 3.1 on it with like a 200mb HD :P
I also have an Apple IIC !!
From 1984!
And it still works!
it's crazy, green screen and all
I'll post some pics when I get home today...
Intraveinous
01-18-02, 01:17 PM
God, I feel all old and stuff now, and I'm only 21... :D My first computer was a Morrow Systems Personal Computer. Had a Z80 running at I think 2Mhz (less power than an Original Gameboy), 256K of RAM... Ran CP/M from 8 inch Floppy diskettes and had a blazing fast 110 baud modem. Fidonet message boards would scroll by at a blazing 14 characters per second... :-D I later got an upgrade to a Hyundai 8088 4.77MHz with 512K of ram, but we upgraded it to 640K for only $199.99, and got a Hercules Monochrome graphics adaptor for only $129.99!!! When the Green screen broke, I got an Amber one! This one had a blazing 300 baud modem. Dialing into BBSs I could view Cindy Crawford swimsuit pics in stunning amber dot matrix glory! Those were the days I tell ya... :D
(Moldy Oldy) John
Bmxpunk86pl
01-18-02, 08:34 PM
blazing fast 110 baud modem
Wow getting dangerousley close to t3 speed...lol
i got an apple 180c..14 inch color lcd. with 3.5' floppy...thats it pretty much, still works though. how big is the screen? that is really cool though, keep it, its gona be worth something some day.
year 3050: "See that son? thats what we call a clock speed based laptop. Our quantam palmtop is about 3 billion times faster than that. But THAT is worth 300x more, its history, someone ahd the brains to save it, instead of throwing it out"
Hey, you never know.
PhoenixMDM
01-19-02, 09:02 AM
The screen is 9.25 X 7 inches.
It takes a normal IDE hard drive! Heh, i put a spare 2gig in it, a SCSI-1 card, and a really old modem/sound card that fits in that weird slot. It has 6 SIMM bays, but if i put the memory (found some, right kind, lying around!) in pairs, the BIOS can't seem to handle it. So for now it's using the 1mb onboard.
I have the windows 3.1 disks (all 6 of them, lol) but it requires DOS. I only have upgrade disks though, and boot disks. Plus, there's the reminants of a linux install on the HD, but LILO is sorta half-blown away.
Anywhere i can DL any DOS install disks? Even if it's like vers 3.0 it's good, cuz i got upgrades ranging from 4.1 all the way in .1 increments to 6.22!:p
I'm pretty sure Caldera OPENDOS is free. I'm not sure where you get it but a google search for "caldera" or "opendos" will hopefully take you to the right site eventually.
Teacher_Doug
01-19-02, 09:27 AM
originally posted by PhoenixMDM
It has 6 SIMM bays, but if i put the memory (found some, right kind, lying around!) in pairs, the BIOS can't seem to handle it.
Don't laugh, I remember when we used to fight to get to use a machine like that, cause it was so much faster than the 286 16s we were using. Does it have an orange glow on the screen?
If I remember, it can't use SIMMS. The older type RAM was also either parity or non parity, nad cannot mix. Some of the older Tosh's also needed non-generic memory, you had to buy from Toshiba direct.
You older guys out there, help me, I can't remember (obviously senility creeping in here) what we used to call the older type RAM in the 80's. I remember there was at least two different types.
PhoenixMDM
01-19-02, 09:37 AM
Well, shows what i know! I thought they were always called simms. All i know is that they fit, and they're flat and tiny... lol
HAving trouble finding a DOS full install disk too...
Before simms there was sipps, before sipps there was dram, before dram Fred and Barney used to chisel letters into stone tablets.
***edit: That Flintstone reference is probably closer to describing old hard drives, not memory. Let's go with this one instead: "before dram there was the human brain."
Teacher_Doug
01-19-02, 11:00 AM
You're lucky it even reads the HD floppys. Used to be standard FD drives would only read 720 k (DS DD) before 1.4m came in (DS HD)
Ah those were the days. I remember when a complete OS came on 1 floppy, and it never crashed.
We used to say, DOS is for MEN, windows is for wimps (win 2.0) ugh :o
Lancelot
01-20-02, 01:40 AM
If it's 32pins SIMM you need to install them by 4 at a time! 4 32pin SIMM's make up a single memory bank.
Intraveinous
01-20-02, 01:18 PM
Actually, they'd probably be 30-pin rather than 32pin. They only things I've seen 32pin in was some old AST computers (they had 68 pin simms too when everyone else had 72 pin) and in old Macs, though that may have been a bios memory card. They will all need to match pretty much... Hmmm... I've got a box of old memory, I'll look for it and if I have a matching set of four, I'll gladly send it your way for the shipping cost...
Peace
John
The Coolest
01-20-02, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by PhoenixMDM
It has 6 SIMM bays, but if i put the memory (found some, right kind, lying around!) in pairs, the BIOS can't seem to handle it. So for now it's using the 1mb onboard.
OK, If I remember correctly. try to use 4 SIMMs if u have them, should work. I think :p
RED Hot Machine
01-20-02, 04:13 PM
Check this link (http://www.centon.com/ros3057l.htm) out.
Also if i remember correctly, that machine used non standard memory. :(
PhoenixMDM
01-20-02, 06:23 PM
figures, it's the 30-pin it takes, and i got seven sticks of 30-pin. Of course, i got two of one brand, two of another, and three of a third.
I've got 2 Panasonic (serial number MN4A091M0S80) 1MX9, 80NS sticks.
2 of some unknown brand that has a sticker on the back. The sticker says "10-8424-9433294 4X9-60/9 PRN"
And then i got 3 GoldStar sticks with the serial code GMM794000S-70 on the back. The 70 part looks like a sticker-ish thing put on after the stick was already finished.
I'm guessing the panasonics are 80nanosecond, and the goldstars are 70. I can take a pic with all three (using a better camera, don't worry!) for better IDing.
Also, i find it weird that if 30-pin are installed in quartets, then why does the laptop have 6 bays...?
Originally posted by PhoenixMDM
Also, i find it weird that if 30-pin are installed in quartets, then why does the laptop have 6 bays...?
If the memory is proprietary then it can be laid out any way the company wants but if it's standard 30 pin simms then I'm guessing the board is a 386sx. If it's a 286 or 386sx the memory will be configured in groups of two. If it's a 386dx or 486 then it will be configured in groups of four.
PhoenixMDM
01-20-02, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by eobard
If the memory is proprietary then it can be laid out any way the company wants but if it's standard 30 pin simms then I'm guessing the board is a 386sx. If it's a 286 or 386sx the memory will be configured in groups of two. If it's a 386dx or 486 then it will be configured in groups of four.
Well, i know it has a 386 processor on it, and the model number is T3200SX, so i'm guessing it's a 386sx:D
The slots are laid out like folows:
[====] [====] bay1
[====] [====] bay2
[====] [====] bay3
I know it's not great, but it gets the point across.
DarkArctic
01-20-02, 08:43 PM
Here's my first computer. A Tandy 1000 EX! Specs here. This thing is a beast.
Intel 8088
256 K RAM
1 Floppy drive (51/4" 360 K) on right side
1 Parallel port
Video - color CGA
Here's a pic too. I may even have it hanging around somewhere.:D
-DarkArctic
Originally posted by DarkArctic
Here's my first computer. A Tandy 1000 EX! Specs here. This thing is a beast.
Intel 8088
256 K RAM
1 Floppy drive (51/4" 360 K) on right side
1 Parallel port
Video - color CGA
Here's a pic too. I may even have it hanging around somewhere.:D
-DarkArctic
Sam roflz after theat one is there any display ?
PhoenixMDM
01-21-02, 08:35 PM
No matter what combo of memory i put in there, and no matter which bays they're in, it dosn't wanna work... I always get an error when starting up saying "
MEMORY VERIFY ERROR AT 01:1000:0000 FOUND FFFFFFFF EXPECTED FFFF0111
" I know from our binary and hex threads, that's a maxed out hex number...
**EDIT** I just let it sit at that screen for like 5 min and it continued to boot, and BIOS tells me i got 3 meg in there!! W00T!!!!!!
Tbird man
01-21-02, 09:06 PM
it was simply saying that it had more mem than it did last boot. try to put a linux install on there if it will take one
Intraveinous
01-22-02, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by Samzik
Sam roflz after theat one is there any display ?
Hooked up to a TV didn't it??? I remember Tandy Monitors too, but I seem to remember that one able to hook up to a TV also...
Peace
John
h20link
01-22-02, 02:23 PM
lol my dad gave me an old Altima LSX, monochrome screen, 3 in floppy drive.........i'll need some help from you guys to get around on it, no mouse, just arrow keys to navigate windows 3x, i think.
I don't know enough dos to get any more specs on it...
FerrariF50
01-29-02, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Breadfan
OMG thats awesome!
but I'm sure it was hot back in '85, lol...
Mike
LMAO!!
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