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cdawg001
01-17-02, 07:46 PM
Can you use a Socket A CPU in a Socket 7 motherboard? What can you use?

DarkArctic
01-17-02, 07:48 PM
Welcome to the forums!

Nope. Socket 7's are only for Pentium's (the original) and any compatibles. Like an old Cyrix. Socket A is an Athlon, socket 7 is way before Athlon's time.

This should be in Intel CPU's though.:D

-DarkArctic

tbirdkiri
01-17-02, 07:49 PM
no you cant.

you can use a socket 7 cpu in a socket 7 board.
but a socket a cpu only works in a socket a board.

jazztrumpet216
01-17-02, 07:59 PM
You CAN use Pentiums or any of the AMD K6-series prcessors though.

cw823
01-17-02, 08:01 PM
Pentiums up through the 233 mmx. (speed demon!..lol)....K6's, k6-2's, and k6-3's (dogs).

VashTheStampede
01-17-02, 08:05 PM
Hehe, I still got my Cyrix 686 somewhere around here, with mobo. :D

~Vash~

mw521
01-17-02, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by tbirdkiri
no you cant.

you can use a socket 7 cpu in a socket 7 board.
but a socket a cpu only works in a socket a board.
Say THAT 10 times real fast!:beer:

cdawg001
01-17-02, 08:11 PM
I can use a pentium though right like a P3 or what?

jazztrumpet216
01-17-02, 08:13 PM
No, only Pentium I's... through 233MHz.

cdawg001
01-17-02, 08:15 PM
Lets break this down. I have a k623dnow cpu so how much higher can i go???

jazztrumpet216
01-17-02, 08:24 PM
What's the speed on it???? If your system supports 100MHz FSB, you can go up to a 550MHz K6/2 or a 450MHz K6/3.

cdawg001
01-17-02, 08:25 PM
Lets break this down. I have a k623dnow cpu so how much higher can i go???

jazztrumpet216
01-17-02, 08:29 PM
We can't tell you anything more on your system without more information on it. A "k623dnow" CPU doesn't tell us anything about your motherboard, if it did, we could tell you for sure what it supports. With the information you're giving me, I can only tell you that your system MIGHT support a 550MHz K6/2 or a 450MHz K6/3.

repo man11
01-17-02, 08:52 PM
The best socket 7 CPU's are the K6-2+ and K6-3+.They are much better than the standard K6-2, which has no level 2 cache, and is made with .25 micron architecture, and run very hot. These were made for mobile PC's, and have level 2 cache, .18 micron architecture, and are good overclockers. K6-3+ CPU's are so rare that they are unreasonably priced.I've seen K6-3+'s go for over $110.00 for a 550! The K6-2+ has half the level 2 cache,(128K instead of 256K), but are otherwise identical. They also have the enhanced 3d Now instructions of the Athlon. Tiger Direct has the K6-2+450 for sale for $35.00. If your board can run it, it's the best you could get, and is good for 600+ mhz. Your board has to be able to go as low as 2.0 volts. I've heard of people running them at up to 2.4, but they probably won't live long at that voltage. Do a Google search for a K6-III+,(typed that way) and the first thing to come up will be a page that Jan Steunebrink maintains with BIOS files to allow you to run one of these. If your board is listed, you're in business!

adamtekh
01-17-02, 09:06 PM
i have a premo OC ing k6-2

its a 475 k6-2 + , it has survied 3.2 Vcore with stock cooling

i was able to run a 133 mhz fsb with it

it still works great

i just dont have a mobo to use its full potential, cuase the last good super socket7 mobo which is what u want :D

lasted a week @ 3 vcore and 133 fsb

they arnt teh greates chips , u could get a 200 mmx and oc it to maybe 300 mhz be about as good as my k6-2 475

the k6-2 would be faster @ bussines apps and such , but the FPU really sucked on the k6 line :beer:

FRANK
01-17-02, 09:27 PM
There's more to it than if the CPU physically fits the socket. There are other things that must be considered. The voltages, the last generation of socket 7 CPU's, the K6-2+ and K6III+, require a Vcore of 2.0 where the earlier Pentium were, I believe 3.3, make sure that the board supports this. Another issue you may run into is BIOS compatibility, I know that the FIC boards need an upgrade to a BETA BIOS for the BIOS to properly recognize these processors, and you will still be saddled with the slower FSB and ATA33 IDE, slower memory etc.

One other consideration, with the cost of the later socket A platform dropping daily, you can upgrade the motherboard and CPU to a later board and a DURON. This route would provide you with a viable upgrade in the future to as much as 2G, for not much more money than a few upgrades to the aging socket 7 platform.

Good Luck!

res0r9lm
01-17-02, 09:46 PM
you need a super socket 7 for k2 or k3

jazztrumpet216
01-17-02, 09:48 PM
No you don't. The pin assignments are the same, everything works OK. The only catch is that some of the older Socket 7 boards don't support a 100MHz FSB, so you have to use the built-in logic circuit for a multipler of 6 and raise the FSB as high as it'll go!

adamtekh
01-17-02, 09:59 PM
yes my k6-2 475 is in a crpay old no name mobo , with the highest jumpers being 3.5 x 75 so 266 is highest u think eh ?


NO!!

the k6-2s with cxt cores wonderfully think that 2x is 6x so

6x75 and #! 450 mhz , but the chip sets r old and ive got 128 megs of pc100 ram in it and it sees 32

gets around 110 mega bytes a sec mem through put though :beer:

res0r9lm
01-17-02, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by adamtekh
yes my k6-2 475 is in a crpay old no name mobo , with the highest jumpers being 3.5 x 75 so 266 is highest u think eh ?


NO!!

the k6-2s with cxt cores wonderfully think that 2x is 6x so

6x75 and #! 450 mhz , but the chip sets r old and ive got 128 megs of pc100 ram in it and it sees 32

gets around 110 mega bytes a sec mem through put though :beer:
I have a k2-550 @ 600 board will go higher chip won't

repo man11
01-17-02, 10:15 PM
I set up a K6-2+ on an old Asus P5T2P4, following reading "Oldie Tuning" on Tom's Hardware last year. For about $80.00(motherboard and CPU) I upgraded my old Cyrix P166+ AT to 500 mhz.(6x83 mhz) It was my first decent computer. For most things it was fine, but once I discovered games, I quickly realized its limitations. But for playing Mp3's, video files and surfing, it was great.

res0r9lm
01-17-02, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by repo man11
I set up a K6-2+ on an old Asus P5T2P4, following reading "Oldie Tuning" on Tom's Hardware last year. For about $80.00(motherboard and CPU) I upgraded my old Cyrix P166+ AT to 500 mhz.(6x83 mhz) It was my first decent computer. For most things it was fine, but once I discovered games, I quickly realized its limitations. But for playing Mp3's, video files and surfing, it was great.
yea I know what you mean. I'm giving mine to my grandfather

repo man11
01-17-02, 10:40 PM
I'm keeping mine as my backup. I'd like to find a deal on a 100 mhz fsb SS-7 board. I'd like to see how fast it could go. I've heard that the + CPU's are good for a little over 600 mhz, and it'd be fun to find out for myself. But it'll have to be cheap.

res0r9lm
01-17-02, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by repo man11
I'm keeping mine as my backup. I'd like to find a deal on a 100 mhz fsb SS-7 board. I'd like to see how fast it could go. I've heard that the + CPU's are good for a little over 600 mhz, and it'd be fun to find out for myself. But it'll have to be cheap.
I had a hard time getting my 550 to 600. started at 560 couldn't get past so i toke heatsink off my duron and put it on the k2 made up a little more then burned it in using sandra it's amazing if you get an 50 mhz out of these things lol I get 250 mhz extra out duron with pelt. I guess that is going to be my back up.seen on pricewatch that a couple places selling 1300 duron morgan
waiting for the 1400 because my multiplier only goes to 13 and kt 133 you can't go to high with the fsb I suppose I could get t bird 1.4 200 but morgan would be easier to cool

Ridenow
01-18-02, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by DarkArctic
Welcome to the forums!

Nope. Socket 7's are only for Pentium's (the original) and any compatibles. Like an old Cyrix. Socket A is an Athlon, socket 7 is way before Athlon's time.

This should be in Intel CPU's though.:D

-DarkArctic

I just realized I have never had a pentium in any of my many socket 7 computers. They have all been AMD or Cyrix. I think I have built about 8 of them, not a single pentium...

res0r9lm
01-18-02, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by Ridenow


I just realized I have never had a pentium in any of my many socket 7 computers. They have all been AMD or Cyrix. I think I have built about 8 of them, not a single pentium...
there is socket 7 & super 7