memory manufactuers are getten shakey!

[deathstar13]

i dont know what all the hub bub is with memory makers but i see a few large discusions on kingmax memory and slower chips being added into there products.
but now i read this!http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/showthread.php?threadid=5353
corsair 333 ddr isnt true 333ddr! but just 2100's tested to 333 specs @cas2
whos getten the vasaline here?
so far i been lucky i bought crucial. but who what next they putting remarked chips in there sticks? <~~~doubtfull , but im afraid to look!

i do hope these ppl correct there wrongs and quikly! we overclockers spend alot of money!, and i mean alot $$$.
and we arent quiet ppl either.

sorry folks i bet you screamen louder than me :(

[Jon]

Until DDR333 is made a standard, all of it is just pre-tested PC2100. To my knowledge, none are actually manufactured to meet that requirement...yet.

[MadMan007]

corsair 333 ddr isnt true 333ddr! but just 2100's tested to 333 specs @cas2

That sucks, tho I think it depends on your perspective too. If it is said to run@333, and runs@333, they are selling what the customer expected to get. On the other hand, they are not calling it "hand-picked to run at 333" which is what it really is.

So, it seems that they may be giving the customer what was promised, just not giving "full disclosure" of how they got there.

[TranceBear]

Originally posted by Jon
Until DDR333 is made a standard, all of it is just pre-tested PC2100. To my knowledge, none are actually manufactured to meet that requirement...yet.

I am under the impression that my -5 Kingmax's is true DDR2700

[Malakai]

im pretty sure 5ns chips are the real 333mhz specification. at least someone said that at amdmb.com

[Placid]

Also winbond,nanya and samsung all make 6ns ddr chips now, that is the speed memory need to operate at 2700.

You can find them on memory from mushkin and twinmos that I know of so far.

[Maximus Nickus]

What ns chips are Crucial 2100??

[Cluster]

Memory Timings:
100MHz = 10 ns PC100 PC1600
133MHz = 7.5ns PC133 PC2100
150MHz = 6.7ns PC150 PC2400
166MHz = 6.0ns PC166 PC2700
200MHz = 5.0ns PC200* PC3000*

*not available yet/ever

[MadMan007]

200MHz = 5.0ns PC200* PC3000*
*not available yet/ever

So, the Kingmax "5ns" chips are not really 5 ns chips??

[Cluster]

I don't see any reference to 5ns chips. Could you give me a website that shows these chips. I'm not trying to be rude or anything, would just be interested in seeing these, Highest I've seen are PC2700/PC166/6ns

[Maximus Nickus]

Beer - the problem, and solution to, all of lifes problems



Amen!:beer:

[Blue Jester_2112]

Not to nitpick, but shouldn't that be "Beer, the cause of,...and solution to,...all of lifes problems."

[Maximus Nickus]

Correct, I sohuld have noticed but to much :beer:

[Mictlan]

Originally posted by clboertien
Memory Timings:

200MHz = 5.0ns PC200* PC3000*

*not available yet/ever

MAybe as memory sticks you are right but memory chips (even DDR) are available down to 3.5 ns.....Those are installed into Graphic Cards and are awfully expensive. That one of the reasons that new graphic cards are sooooo expensive (well, also nVidia's need to make so much money fast will be an issue here). The memory chip manufacterure's are the same than the ones that distribute the memory modules to memory stick maker's. I think that as soon as cheaper (or more mature) tools are developed, 5.0 ns memory chips will be readily available.

[Cluster]

I fixed the sig, i knew it didn't quite sound right. Thought of it again when i was drinking and ocing. Almost as bad as drinking and driving, (fried my duron 850). Got a little crazy and went with some insane mods and clocking. Did a 2.1v mod and took the processor to 124x11. Worked for about 2 min in windows, Soon noticed a had no hsf hooked up. DO NOT OVERCLOCK WHEN CONSUMING ALKOHOL. It's dangerous to the life of your computer.

Cheers :beer:

[Malakai]

wow that REALLY sucks man. we all feel your pain:(

[pmorcos]

I know for a fact that they are being made en mass now.
You can pick up generic pc2700 today with high qualtiy winbond 5ns chips.
These will become the standard by April.