upgade again how about p3 1gig

[murdoch]

Well its been almost 2 months since I upgraded to a cel 800 that went flawlessly to 1.2 gig at default volts. I was thinking of unloading this chip and making one last venture with this vh62 and go for the p3 1gig. I was wondering for performance and success of the 100 fsb(e) or 133(eb) fsb gig which is the better choice. Now of course I could see where x100 allows more potential for o/c but for example if it stuggles to reach x120 or godbless x133fsb or not at all then why bother or another scenario is if the x 133 has great potential to reach 150 fsb which is, I beleive 1.2, doesn't that give it superior performance to even the x100 at 133 since its using the 150 fsb. I will be using an alpha to cool with pc 150 ram all components are of course a go since my current rig runs at 150. A tualatin is on the back burner for now cause I really want to wait and see if they get all the bugs out of a pl370 socket adapter for this old board of mine. Your experiences would help me out agian. Thanks

[Pecos]

The P3 1000EB at a 150MHz bus will give you 1125MHz.

The P3 1000E's do seem to overclock very well and easy, but you may gain more with the EB and it's mem bandwidth if you can indeed reach 150MHz FSB - especially if you can run your mem at 2-2-2.

My 1000E has booted into the OS and allowed benchies to run to completion at 1.4GHz @ 1.9V, but the temps weren't low enough for me.

I've got an SK-6 and I'm not convinced that the clip is the best design to provide a completely level/flush seat on the core. I've got to experiment with either a homemade shim or maybe some feet for it when I can get myself to make time to rip the system apart and play.

[batboy]

Personally, I'm not sure your suggested upgrade would really be worth the money. If you're a hardcore gamer, then you'd be better off spending your hard earned cash buying a better video card.

[TASOS]

My opinion is that with an EB @1100 ( 150 FSB ) you will have better performance.

[mikester]

can we see some benchmarks on that?

im planning the exact upgrade (E or EB) and i cant decide...

i will be putting in some fans to cool it, and my gfx card is fine for games.

can anyone find some benchies (mem or cpu) to back either side up?

[Yodums]

The P3 won't go that much beyond your 1.2 Celeron since it must be running on a good FSB.

But to get better performance take Batboy's word and get a newer video card.

But if you do upgrade the EB is a better choice at least for me as it has higher FSB. FSB is more important than very close speeds.
It also ups alot of things like the memory in this case.

Yodums

[outhouse]

Ive posted this question before and had mostly people saying that they would prefer MHZ more-so then bandwidth and now the choice is yours to make E=MHZ EB= bandwidth.

I wonder if you had the E at 1300 with medium bandwith or the EB at 1200 with better bandwidth, which one would give better 2001 benchmarks [same video card]

personaly i have the same MB and you should have no problems getting the EB close to 1300 with good case cooling as well as a good HSF on your northbridge, but Batboy does have a good point.

[murdoch]

Well the vid card thing for me isn't too much of an issue. I am currently running a gf2 ti 64 ddr. However since what I am at now is roughly the same as a p3 1 gig at 100fsb. The extra cache and at 150 maybe on an eb would be nice. it would be benificial to see prime or 3dmark posted with the o/c in the data base. Since it would help clarify issues of performance between similiar chips including amd as such. As well we would also have more relevent info to what can truly o/c or what posts but is not necessarily stable. As for performance increase any o/c would be greater regardless of e or eb to my 800@1.2.I guess success rate for o/c to highest mhz would be the decider.

[Xaeryan]

Here's some 3DMark 2001 comparison scores for you guys...

1.1E @ 1320 (120 FSB): 6819 (http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2218534)
1.0EB @ 1162 (155 FSB): 7259 (http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2413363)

RAM settings were 2-2-2, 5-7 for all tests.
The Radeon 8500 was left at stock speeds for both tests, using driver version 7206.

My point is, the higher bandwidth works out a bit better than the higher clock speed. A 1.0E would be a really good compromise, though, and it might even perform better than the 1.0EB.

[BoYRaCeR]

id go for the 1000E just because i get sleepless nights for my array at 160FSB... :eek:

[Xaeryan]

BoyRacer: just curious, do you have any results with that processor at 1.33? 3DMark or Sandra? I might try and pick one up for kicks and giggles.