Is Magicool any good?

[t6nnnu]

I am considering to order a Magicool Pro II (http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=50) or a Magicool Xtreme II (http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=54) because i could get those two cheap, but i haven't found a lot of information about these radiators about their quality and function on google. does anyone have any experience or suggestions?
Could you also tell me which radiator manufacturers are considered the best for the job?
:sn:(couldn't resist using this smilie)

[Spawn-Inc]

i don't have any info on them and thus i would stick which what i know.

Swiftech's are best for price/performance and work with medium speed fans

XSPC RX series rads are in between above and below rads and work with medium speed fans

thermochill and feser are best for low speed fans but cost more.

[Conumdrum]

There is very very little info in the USA forums about those rads, never seen any proper testing/comparison data, ever. They are big in EU, you might need to look at German sites for info, think they are made there or in that area.

EDIT!!!!!!

Had this link.
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.effizienzgurus.de%2Fm ain%2Findex.php%3Fcontent%3Darticle%26action%3Dvie w_spec_article%26article_id%3D222&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Unless your in the EU, you can do much better with a high flow low noise rad in the uSA.

Best for what? Max cooling, max price/cooling, max cooling/noise? Got a few choices. Post what your rig is in the sig area and we get an idea what to recommend.

For example, cooling a E6600, you only need a 220 sized rad. Noise an issue, then TFC, PA, or Feser. Noise not an issue and max cooling? Then GTX rads. Noise and cost (cost mainly)? MCR brand then.

I will need two 120x3 rads soon, one for my i7 965 D0 stepping, and another for my GPU, because the i7 will be very very hot due to my overclock.

Okay, give us the info please now you have an idea on the choices.

[t6nnnu]

Heatkiller CPU 2.5 s939(modded for 775 )
Innovatek HPPS Plus 12V pump
Innovatek AGB-O-Matic
cools an E8400 and 8800GTS 512
planning to clock both.
max cooling and PRIMARY: silence

[mattgmann]

Magicool rads aren't bad. They're on the level of swiftech, or the lower end BI rads. If you can get them cheap, go for it. They perform a little better with higher speed fans if I recall.

If your looking for silence, the new RX series rads from XSPC are the best low speed fan rads.

[BobbyBubblehead]

Great balls of thunderous enlightenment I was recommended a swiftech but can only use my fans on low :bang head
I think theres a swiftech sales rep hiding among-st us LOL :beer:

(possibly just an idiot at this IP on the other hand - when will I learn the pinch of salt factor!)

[Badbonji]

Conumdrum, you got that cpu yet? If not wait for the 3.33Ghz i7 975 :P

[t6nnnu]

Conumdrum, you got that cpu yet? If not wait for the 3.33Ghz i7 975 :P

what a great place to discuss that.
Is the thermaltake motorsports 24cm any better than Magicool? i am probably getting the thermaltake twice cheaper than the magicools i presented, with fans included. but still. is the Thermaltake any good?

[muddocktor]

Thermaltake radiators are basically crap, because they use aluminum in the radiator for their water channels. And mixed metals are not a good idea in your loop because of galvanic corrosion. Try to stick with a radiator choice that avoids the use of aluminum in it, just copper and brass.



Badbonji, what in the blue blazes does your last post have to do with this thread?:mad: You discuss stuff like this by PM or you start your own damn thread, but don't go threadcrapping and sidetracking other people's threads, understand!

Great balls of thunderous enlightenment I was recommended a swiftech but can only use my fans on low :bang head
I think theres a swiftech sales rep hiding among-st us LOL :beer:

(possibly just an idiot at this IP on the other hand - when will I learn the pinch of salt factor!)

BobbyBubblehead, what do you mean by this post also? Are you accusing us of having Swiftech shills on these forums?:mad:

First of all, Swiftech doesn't use shills to promote their products. They don't have to as their products speak for themselves as to their quality and affordability. If you don't like their products then you have the right to post your opinion, but don't come here and libel a respectable company on these forums, understand! If you are having problems with a Swiftech product you can easily go to their website and ask for tech support, as Gabe himself will most probably answer you within a day. Keep making unfounded accusations here and your tenure will be short, I promise you!!

muddocktor
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[Conumdrum]

Thermaltake? Stay away from thermaltake, don't even look in their direction. Junk!

[jr1]

i second the thermaltake comments
the only thing i like from them are some of theyr cases

[BobbyBubblehead]

Muddocktor - sorry to hear about your getting out the wrong side of bed this morning.
swiftech comment was little more than a light hearted joke with no real possability of truth included.
And the relevance was peoples opinion that its only suitable for medium to high fan settings. Still a fine product I just should have bought something more suited for my needs.
As for the I7 interuption its happend elsewhere in the past 24hrs and I personally didnt mind. I see this kind of thing as a fundamental floor within the communication options of this forum.
Try taking out all the `hey everyone look at me` threads out and see how much relevant information there is floating round here.
As for the promise of a short stay.... well you have the gun all our hands are up.
Im not trying to be a BAD BOY thats the truth. There would be a very drastic difference in my conduct if i were.
Que public chew up LOL
You can ask me to leave without the ban enforcement im very easy going.
thanks.

[muddocktor]

BobbyBubblehead, I take, even jokingly, that we encourage paid shills to come here and post very seriously. I absolutely detest that kind of practice (paid shills) and wouldn't even go to a forum that allows that kind of deal. And I won't allow even the possibility of someone thinking that we allow that to happen here.

As for the Swiftech rad performance, I find that their performance with low speed fans to be pretty good and not too far behind the premium rads such as Thermochill. I'm running a MCR320-QP with 3 low speed Yates and my temps on a Q6600@3.6 average in the low to mid 40's while crunching Seti or Rosetta. And I can't hear the fans except if I get real close to them. But to each his own. I will say that if you value silent performance over bang/buck and don't mind paying the premium, the Thermochill, Feser and now the XSPC RX series are a better choice for low speed fans.

[BobbyBubblehead]

I had no idea corporate shills were such an issue. I apologies for my ignorance very sincerely.
I also wish I had your rad opinion at the time of purchase LOL.
I just feared that I had three fans at 4.5 volts spinning to no effect for fun - I did throw enough engineering wisdom to place it at the very end of the loop where its most likely to have an effect to near ambient coolant temps.
Its all worked out thus far anyhow.

[Spawn-Inc]

don't touch anything thermaltake water cooling wise.

as for the swiftech thing i always recommend swiftech rads with medium speed yates. i also recommend thermochill, feser, black ice GTX series and XSPC Rx series.

i personally like the swiftech's over the other rads as you can get more rad for your dollar. the only problem with it is if your limited in space then you need the better rads. unless i was crazy rich i would always stick with swiftech rads and a giant case.

[t6nnnu]

hey! thanks for all the advice, i'll keep that in mind(everything, that is). There's another question (i'd like to stay off making a new thread): which vga block do you reccomend for my 8800 GTS 512? all of the full cover blocks i find on the internet for 8800gts are made for 640 layout, as it is slightly different from 512's layout, but it matters.
pic of 640 naked (http://xtreview.com/images/Radeon-HD-2900-XT-512-Mb/Forsa%20GeForce%208800%20GTS%20640%20Mb.jpg%20nake d.jpg)
pic of 512 naked (http://images.techtree.com/ttimages/story/87079_img_2242.jpg)
as a stupid f**k i bought the EK-FC8800 but it seems to fit for 640 memory layout and the layout ofthe screws is also different from what i need for my graphics card.
so... i am looking for a full-cover block(money does matter, i want to go as cheap as possible for a good performance) for my 8800gts 512mb.

i considered D-Tek FuZion GFX Block with D-Tek GFX UNI-Sink (8800GTS) (http://www.coolercases.co.uk/acatalog/D-Tek_GPU_Blocks.html) but i don't know if the full-cover fits and i don't know how to make sure :bang head it is said on the page that it's for 8800 series with 4 mounting holes, but mine seems to have some little extra ones between the four. what's up with that? am i going in the right direction?

[rainless]

Damn... Wish I had seen this thread earlier. It made me smile. :D

As for the 8800 series, the D-Tek Fuzion with the uni-sink is definitely for the GTS 640 (my video card.)

Let me see if I can find one for yours.

EDIT: DONE! http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=305&cat=48&page=1

[icebob]

Back to the Magicool question. I have the MagiCool XTREME NOVA 1080 ( 9 X 120mm) Radiator ready to be installed, will sometimes this week (stuck at work right now) I never tried one of them but if you can wait later on this week I'll be more than happy to tell you how it perform. Right now I/ running 2 loops with a XSPC RX360 and a swiftech 320. I'm just recording data right now so I will have numbers to compare when I install the beast:beer:

[t6nnnu]

Back to the Magicool question. I have the MagiCool XTREME NOVA 1080 ( 9 X 120mm) Radiator ready to be installed, will sometimes this week (stuck at work right now) I never tried one of them but if you can wait later on this week I'll be more than happy to tell you how it perform. Right now I/ running 2 loops with a XSPC RX360 and a swiftech 320. I'm just recording data right now so I will have numbers to compare when I install the beast:beer:
that's great, thank you! (Y)
Rainless, thank you for that. that is awesome (and expensive), i read that it is cheaper (and same performance) to use just a gpu block and cover the memorys with ramsinks. is that true and is it really a better way for me, or are there hidden cons? :santa2:

[Conumdrum]

It is cheaper to use a GPU only block and use HS for the ram and mosfets. I'd like to say it's under $90. GPU block is 45-50, HS kit is about 40. A FC block is over $100 easy, my GTX280 block came to $170 with shipping. I tried to find a FC block that explicitly said it would fit your card, for example DD said it will NOT fit the 512 version. So, there ya have it. Look at all the choices for cards at Sidewinder and see if one will fit. If your not sure, go to the manufactures page and ask them if it will fit, see that done before.

So yea, the MCW60 (make sure the mount bracket is right) and HS is valid and used quiet a bit.

http://www.swiftnets.com/

[Diggrr]

had to dig a bit for the rad comparison that included 3 magicool rads:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=220593

Not bad at all, especially for the money.

[t6nnnu]

had to dig a bit for the rad comparison that included 3 magicool rads:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=220593

Not bad at all, especially for the money.

thanks alot, that helped! I must say i am holding back a bit with the purchase of the radiator (keeping an eye on second hands and special offers as i am not rushing into it) and am concentrating more on the vga block.
about the vga block. interested in this one: amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00118B2XE?ie=UTF8&tag=shopwiki-uk-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=6738)

any comments?

[rainless]

thanks alot, that helped! I must say i am holding back a bit with the purchase of the radiator (keeping an eye on second hands and special offers as i am not rushing into it) and am concentrating more on the vga block.
about the vga block. interested in this one: amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00118B2XE?ie=UTF8&tag=shopwiki-uk-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=6738)

any comments?

Sure: Buy it.

[Conumdrum]

Try looking at these places. Scroll down to the store section. They left out Jab-Tech, another great store. If you have questions they are much more capable than some non-PC user at Amazon. The one you listed is for the G92 chip, is yours G92 or the smaller newer die? And make sure it's for your 512 version.

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=282232

[t6nnnu]

Try looking at these places. Scroll down to the store section. They left out Jab-Tech, another great store. If you have questions they are much more capable than some non-PC user at Amazon. The one you listed is for the G92 chip, is yours G92 or the smaller newer die? And make sure it's for your 512 version.

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=282232

i was sure my it would fit my 8800 gts 512, but as you made me doubt i checked this webpage (http://www.jab-tech.com/EK-FC88-GT-GTS-G92-Poly-Top-pr-4037.html), it says: NOTE: THIS FITS THE 512MB G92 MODEL ONLY: IF YOU ARE NOT SURE IF YOUR CARD IS COMPATIBLE..
everything seems okay this far. but as you click to see the installiation manual (http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/download/EK-FC8800GTS_installation.pdf) it has a picture of a 640 memory layout card. am i missing anything or is this just an error and the cooling does fit my 8800 gts 512?

[Conumdrum]

I saw this on the page also:

NOTE: THIS FITS THE 512MB G92 MODEL ONLY: IF YOU ARE NOT SURE IF YOUR CARD IS COMPATIBLE.. ASK

Email EK or Jabtech. Have your specs for your card handy.

ASK