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AMD900*
01-20-02, 11:26 AM
IM USING A 30 GIG WESTERN DIGITAL HD I'VE FORMATED IT ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO SO WHEN A WAS TRYING TO INSTALL COUNTER-STRIKE IT TOLL ME THAT I NEEDE MORE SPACE SO I WHENT TO MY COMPUTER CLICK ON HD AND ITS SAID DISK 1 PART 1 1.99GB I USED WESTERN UTILITIES FOR THE FORMAT ANY HELP BAD IM ALSO LIKE WHERE DID THE OTHER 28 GB WHENT COULD I FIX IT W/O FORMATTING IF SO HOW

flounder43
01-20-02, 11:33 AM
First, if you would refrain from using all CAPS it would be appreciated.

Second, go into you bios...what does it say about your hard drive size? Make sure that it is accurate.

Third, it is possible that you have the rest of the space on another partition, is that the case? What about drive D:?

Start there, and post back.

Good luck.

AMD900*
01-20-02, 12:07 PM
ADVANCE SETUP

trend chipaway virus - enabled
quick boot - enabled
1st boot device - IDE-0
2nd boot device - floppy
3rd boot device - CDROM
try other boot device - yes
S.M.A.R.T. for hard disks - disabled
bootup num-lock - on
floppy drive swap - disabled
floppy drive seek - disabled
password check - setup
boot to OS/2 > 64mb - no
L1 cache - enabled
L2 cache - enabled
system bios cacheable - enabled
thats about all i could find about the hd on the bios what was the 3rd thing u said?

It_The_Cow
01-20-02, 01:44 PM
Proper grammar is good as well. What kind of file system are you using? FAT, FAT32, NTFS? If it's FAT, you need to format it to FAT32 so it supports >2gb

Johan
01-20-02, 02:21 PM
Try repartitioning the HD using Fdisk instead of the WD utility. It sounds like you partitioned one section of the HD in FAT or only formatted a single partition.

Procedure: set floppy as the first boot device in BIOS instead of IDE HDD, have startup disk in floppy drive, boot up computer, run FDISK, delete old partitions on the WD drive (make sure you pick the correct drive), repartition, reboot, format all partition(s).

It_The_Cow, love the DII avatar....that's great!!!

AMD900*
01-20-02, 05:09 PM
im using FAT32. so i have to format again f#@$

Johan how do i do that again where do i get FDISK

It_The_Cow
01-20-02, 05:17 PM
When you do, be sure to enable >2gb support

AMD900*
01-20-02, 05:19 PM
how do i do that

Yodums
01-20-02, 05:25 PM
Go into the bios and it should be the second selection where it detects you HDD at the start up make sure the size is on auto.

Fdisk and use large disk support, if its Win 98 it does FAT32 automatically.

Delete the partition right now and then create a primary again using everything.

Then Reboot, go back into the fdisk menu and make sure your drive is identified as 30gigs.

If it doesn't use WDC Diagnostic Tools to see if your drive has some kind of problems.

Yodums

AMD900*
01-20-02, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by Yodums
Go into the bios and it should be the second selection where it detects you HDD at the start up make sure the size is on auto.

Fdisk and use large disk support, if its Win 98 it does FAT32 automatically.

Delete the partition right now and then create a primary again using everything.

Then Reboot, go back into the fdisk menu and make sure your drive is identified as 30gigs.

If it doesn't use WDC Diagnostic Tools to see if your drive has some kind of problems.

Yodums

the 2nd part is standard cmos setup and it shows pri master-auto pri slave-auto sec master-auto sec slave-auto and all are 32bit mode on it doesn't tell me size, cyln, head, wpcom, sec, lba mode, blk mode, or pio mode they are blank

how do i go in to the FDISK menu?

Yodums
01-20-02, 05:35 PM
OK At least your bios looks good.

What operating system are you on in the first place?

AMD900*
01-20-02, 05:44 PM
win 98 se

Yodums
01-20-02, 05:58 PM
Use the Win'98 bootup disk then.

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 06:15 PM
AMD900*,

'Sup man? Having some hard drive trouble? Fdisk is on your start-up disk. What's that? If you don't have one, you can probably make one in:
Control panel- Add/Remove Programs- Start up and recovery- Make Start-up disk. You'll need 1 formatted 1.44MB floppy. Unless you're using Win 2000 or XP... I think the procedure is a little different for those OS's. Bootdisk.com also has downloadable bootdisks for all brands of windows.

Anyway, here's how I went about setting up my 40 GB Western Digital HDD, and my girlfriend's 30 GB WD HDD... It's been a while, so maybe I've got some minor details off just a little bit.

Boot from start-up floppy disk. If the OS gives you a choice, choose "start with cd-rom support". Put in your windows cd before selecting that choice. This leads you to a command prompt. If not, hit f5 (maybe its F6, check bottom of the screen it should say) to get a command prompt.

A:

type like so: fdisk c:

This should open Fdisk. Enable FAT32, yes. View status. Get back to me. You can partition and format if you wish, but it'll erase all your data. So back up some of your stuff 1st, and be prepared to spend an hour or more installing windows and other crap.

It's a good idea to make 2 or more partitions on your HDD, and here's why: 1) cluster size is smaller in smaller partitions, making data storage more efficient, 2) If your OS is on it's own partition (the 1st and primary partition)... a) virtual memory operates quicker, b) you can format and reinstall windows if needed while still being able to keep the files on your other partitions (though programs on other partitions may need to be reinstalled).

On a 30 GB HDD, I'd:

Make the primary active partition about 4 to 6 GB. Use this for windows and other applications you use frequently. Things on this partition will be accessed the fastest because the partition is on the outer edge (fastest moving part) of the hard disks.

Make an extended partition that uses up all of the remaining space.

Make 1 or 2 logical drives using up all the space in the extended partition. I'd use this/these partitions for games and videos/mp3s etc. For storage essentially. If you make 2, try to have them both be less than 16GB, as the efficieny is worse above 16GB.

But really, just give us some info b4 you try this stuff, then we can provide better descriptions of what you should do. The above is just some general information, and may not be necessary at all.

BTW dude, I found a mod to improve image quality on most nvidia graphics cards. I tried it on my Leadtek GF2 Ti and it works great. It was really easy, just ask me about it, or look in video & soundcards. I got 5720 the other day. How's your 3dmark score coming?


erase all your data

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 06:22 PM
that last line should say: formatting will erase all your data. If you make any changes to your partitions, you must format the partitions you changed.

AMD900*
01-20-02, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Arkaime23
AMD900*,

'Sup man? Having some hard drive trouble? Fdisk is on your start-up disk. What's that? If you don't have one, you can probably make one in:
Control panel- Add/Remove Programs- Start up and recovery- Make Start-up disk. You'll need 1 formatted 1.44MB floppy. Unless you're using Win 2000 or XP... I think the procedure is a little different for those OS's. Bootdisk.com also has downloadable bootdisks for all brands of windows.

Anyway, here's how I went about setting up my 40 GB Western Digital HDD, and my girlfriend's 30 GB WD HDD... It's been a while, so maybe I've got some minor details off just a little bit.

Boot from start-up floppy disk. If the OS gives you a choice, choose "start with cd-rom support". Put in your windows cd before selecting that choice. This leads you to a command prompt. If not, hit f5 (maybe its F6, check bottom of the screen it should say) to get a command prompt.

A:

type like so: fdisk c:

This should open Fdisk. Enable FAT32, yes. View status. Get back to me. You can partition and format if you wish, but it'll erase all your data. So back up some of your stuff 1st, and be prepared to spend an hour or more installing windows and other crap.

It's a good idea to make 2 or more partitions on your HDD, and here's why: 1) cluster size is smaller in smaller partitions, making data storage more efficient, 2) If your OS is on it's own partition (the 1st and primary partition)... a) virtual memory operates quicker, b) you can format and reinstall windows if needed while still being able to keep the files on your other partitions (though programs on other partitions may need to be reinstalled).

On a 30 GB HDD, I'd:

Make the primary active partition about 4 to 6 GB. Use this for windows and other applications you use frequently. Things on this partition will be accessed the fastest because the partition is on the outer edge (fastest moving part) of the hard disks.

Make an extended partition that uses up all of the remaining space.

Make 1 or 2 logical drives using up all the space in the extended partition. I'd use this/these partitions for games and videos/mp3s etc. For storage essentially. If you make 2, try to have them both be less than 16GB, as the efficieny is worse above 16GB.

But really, just give us some info b4 you try this stuff, then we can provide better descriptions of what you should do. The above is just some general information, and may not be necessary at all.

BTW dude, I found a mod to improve image quality on most nvidia graphics cards. I tried it on my Leadtek GF2 Ti and it works great. It was really easy, just ask me about it, or look in video & soundcards. I got 5720 the other day. How's your 3dmark score coming?


erase all your data

all right it goes something like this

FDISK menu

1. create DOS partition or logical DOS drive
2. set active partition
3. delete partition or logical DOS drive
4. display partition information

1. CREATE DOS PARTITION OR LOGICAL DOS DRIVE
1. create primary DOS partition
2. create extended DOS partition
3. create logical DOS drive(s) in the extended DOS partition

2. SET ACTIVE PARTITION
1. partition status- type- volume label- mbytes - system- usage
c:1 - A - pri DOS- DISK1PART01 - 2047 - FAT - 7%

3. DELETE PARTITION OR LOGICAL DOS DRIVE
1. delete primary DOS partition
2. delete extended DOS partition
3. delete logical DOS drive(s) inthe extended DOS partition
4. delete non-DOS partition

4. DISPLAY PARTITION INFORMATION
1. same as set active partition
also it tell TOTAL DISK SPACE IS 28624MBYTES (1 MBYTE =1048576 BYTES)

NOW HOW DO I DO THIS?

ALSO TELL ME ABOUT UR VIDEO CARD?

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 08:16 PM
I need to know if you have a D drive, like a 2nd hard drive only it's really just your hard drive divided into 2 sections. Check this from the "my computer" icon on the desktop.

Also check on the option 4 in fdisk to view all of your partitions. That'll show your primary and extended partitions. They should total something close to 30 GB. Then there is also an option from there to view logical drives, if you have any... the d: I mentioned above.

It may be you have a primary and no extended partition... in which case you need to make an extended partition and 1 or 2 logical drives.

It may be you only have a primary and extended partition but no logical drives, in which case you'll need to make one or more logical drives.

You may have to format the whole thing, but I hope not.

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 08:25 PM
Sorry, just looked over your last post again.

Looks like all you have is a primary partition.

So, make an extended partition. Use all the available space it allows for this partition. If it won't let you do this, then I'm afraid you'll have to delete all your partitions, make new ones, and reformat.

Ok, assuming you could make the extended partition, now you need to make 1 or more logical drives. Select the option to do this and decide how much space you want in the logical drive(s). If you make 1 use all the space. If you make 2, split the space between them and try to keep them less than 16GB each as it's more efficient that way. Between the 2 logical drives, all available space should be used.

When done, format both of the logical drives and name them. Don't format your primary (c:)drive or else you'll lose everything on it.

Then you should have a D drive and maybe an E drive (if you made 2 logical partitions).

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 08:32 PM
Ok, if the extended and logical drives have been created... check partition information before you exit fdisk to be sure.

Then exit fdisk and reboot using the start-up disk again. This time at the command prompt type:
format d:

and when that's done, format e: if you made 2 logical drives.

It'll format these drives and ask you to name them.

When that's done, reboot without the start-up disk and check "my computer". You should see your new drive(s) and they should be empty.

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 08:58 PM
If all that works out for you, then to get your counter strike going, I'd uninstall Half-life and install it on your d drive. Then install the CS mod on drive d also.

And away you go!

I'd use d drive for all of your games. In fact, since your c drive is so small, you may be installing a lot of stuff to the new drive(s). Also make a backup folder on drive d (or e if you made a drive e), and keep zips, installers, updated driver downloads, etc. All the important stuff, so that if windows craps out or you ever have to format c:, then you can just grab all this stuff outta you're back-up folder and reinstall it quickly.

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 09:06 PM
True discussion of this should be in another section of the forums... but here's it in brief:

I removed 9 capacitors from my card using needlenose plyers. It was quite nerve-racking, as I wasn't sure it'd work. But it did, and while the difference is small, it is noticeable. Look for the thread in video & sound. I also started a thread about it in alternative modding. Both threads have the terms "image quality nvidia" which you can just search for if you're lazy. Both threads contain a link to an article on anadtech.com which has pictures and explanations of this mod.

My 3dmark score did not change because of this mod, only the image quality.

AMD900*
01-20-02, 10:04 PM
ok i've done one partition for same reason i couldn't do the other so now i have c: and d: d: wouldn't work so i had to format it i done this in windows is this ok now how do i do the other?

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 10:15 PM
Ok, so you got a d drive now... You were able to make an extended partition and one logical drive... did you use all of the space available for the logical (d:) drive, ie how big is it? or did you leave some left over for use on a 2nd logical drive?

Sometimes fdisk doesn't always keep all the changes you make, that's why you should examine the partition information before you exit fdisk.

If your d: is using something close to 26GB, then all is well.

AMD900*
01-20-02, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Arkaine23
Ok, so you got a d drive now... You were able to make an extended partition and one logical drive... did you use all of the space available for the logical (d:) drive, ie how big is it? or did you leave some left over for use on a 2nd logical drive?

Sometimes fdisk doesn't always keep all the changes you make, that's why you should examine the partition information before you exit fdisk.

If your d: is using something close to 26GB, then all is well.

it has 12.9gig i was going to make 2 but it didn't let me hey can i tranfer files from c: to d:?

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 10:23 PM
Formatting thru windows should be fine, although I've always used the format.exe from the start-up disk. I'm not sure, but maybe if you format thru windows you'll need to reboot?

The other one?

Is there an E: in "my computer"? If there is, it should work once it's been formatted.

If there's just a d drive and it's not using all 26GB or so, then you'll need to go to fdisk again and make another logical drive using all the remaining space available. Then format the new drive and you should be all set.

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 10:28 PM
It didn't let you? What did it do exactly?

yes, you can transfer files/folders between these drives. It may take longer, but you should probably uninstall/reinstall on d drive, for programs and games. Simple data files like mp3s, pics, videos, documents, zips, installers, etc can all be transferred with just drag/n/drop.

AMD900*
01-20-02, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Arkaine23
It didn't let you? What did it do exactly?

yes, you can transfer files/folders between these drives. It may take longer, but you should probably uninstall/reinstall on d drive, for programs and games. Simple data files like mp3s, pics, videos, documents, zips, installers, etc can all be transferred with just drag/n/drop.
it toll me it had already a partition should i go back and delete it and use the rest of hd?

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 10:57 PM
you tried to make a 2nd logical drive and it told you there already was one? And yet no drive e in my computer? That's weird.

Yeah, go back to fdisk and try to delete that 2nd logical drive. Then create a new logical drive and then format it.

Or you could delete all logical drives and then make a new one that uses all the remaining space, then format it again.

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 11:06 PM
You want to wind up with your C drive unchanged, and either a D drive with close to 26GB or a D and E drive that total about 26GB. The 26GB comes from the size of your extended partition. I think your HDD is actually 28.6GB, so all your partitions should add up to that.

If something isn't working right, then just delete logical drives and create new ones until you get it the way you want it. Always examine the partitions you create before exiting fdisk, because for unknown reasons sometimes it doesn't always take the changes you make.

Luckily though, you didn't have to change your C drive. That coulda sukt if you had to format that and reinstall windows, not to mention everything else.

AMD900*
01-20-02, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Arkaine23
You want to wind up with your C drive unchanged, and either a D drive with close to 26GB or a D and E drive that total about 26GB. The 26GB comes from the size of your extended partition. I think your HDD is actually 28.6GB, so all your partitions should add up to that.

If something isn't working right, then just delete logical drives and create new ones until you get it the way you want it. Always examine the partitions you create before exiting fdisk, because for unknown reasons sometimes it doesn't always take the changes you make.

Luckily though, you didn't have to change your C drive. That coulda sukt if you had to format that and reinstall windows, not to mention everything else.
i want a d and a e

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 11:42 PM
1st try fdisk again and see if you can create a new logical drive. If you can, then just format the new drive.

If you can't, delete the logical drive(s) you have and make 2 new logical drives. Format both. The total size of the logical drives should equal the size of the extended partition, or pretty close to 26GB.

Arkaine23
01-20-02, 11:44 PM
Hey, I'm about to get off work, so I probably won't be back on again for a couple of hours. Hope it works out for you, and I'll try to be of assistance later when I get home.

AMD900*
01-20-02, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Arkaine23
1st try fdisk again and see if you can create a new logical drive. If you can, then just format the new drive.

If you can't, delete the logical drive(s) you have and make 2 new logical drives. Format both. The total size of the logical drives should equal the size of the extended partition, or pretty close to 26GB.


i fix it but a only have one drive d: drive is about 26 gig is ok man as log as windows is in anither partition thanx