View Full Version : Catalyst 9.3 Up Windows 7 too*
redrumy3
03-18-09, 12:58 PM
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx
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Firestrider
03-18-09, 02:52 PM
Downloading now, even though I had no problems with the first WDDM 1.1 driver, did you?
redrumy3
03-18-09, 03:13 PM
Downloading now, even though I had no problems with the first WDDM 1.1 driver, did you?
nope never had a problem with them but i installed these anyway :)
Crashed,I could write less buggy software in my sleep... oh wait I do write less buggy software in my sleep. This is a .Net framework error. now I will have to do some major unistal/reinstalling or just get a GTX295:)
SeanBest
03-18-09, 04:57 PM
Redrumy3 ... how'd you go about installing these? I mean, did you just install over the previous ones or what? What driver cleaner did you use if you used one. Wanna make sure I use one that's gonna make it go smoothly.
Thanks!
I always uninstall the old ones and then use driver sweeper to get rid of anything left behind. It's best to start off with a clean slate when it comes to drivers.
R7 :beer:
SeanBest
03-18-09, 06:13 PM
Yeah that's how I've done it in XP 64, but I'm running Windows 7 64 atm, and want to know if there are any differences. Not sure how driver cleaners are working in Windows 7 or if uninstalling and cleaning the drivers is any different and since red got it working fine just want some tips before I go and jack it all up.
redrumy3
03-18-09, 06:13 PM
Redrumy3 ... how'd you go about installing these? I mean, did you just install over the previous ones or what? What driver cleaner did you use if you used one. Wanna make sure I use one that's gonna make it go smoothly.
Thanks!
uninstall 9.2 reboot into safe mode ran driver sweeper to clean out files, booted back into windows and installed new ones, never had a problem :) i used Driver Sweeper 2.0.0 Beta 2
SeanBest
03-18-09, 06:16 PM
LOL.... just sent you a pm bout this as well ... saw you online and didn't see post ... ahh well gonna give it a shot thanks!
Nebulous
03-18-09, 06:26 PM
Someone post up how these are working over the 9.2's :)
mastrdrver
03-18-09, 07:07 PM
Reports over on Guru3d forums is that they fix the water outline bug in WaW, but a shadow bug is back in WoW. Since I play a lot of WaW, this is great, though the power play bug is still present.
I will get them, since I pretty much only play WaW, UT3, and Quake Live lately.
mastrdrver
03-18-09, 10:11 PM
Just did a little mp on WaW and I can comfirm that the water outline bug is gone. The game looks so much better now. Even though the power play bug is still there, I'm very happy.
Firestrider
03-19-09, 02:09 AM
I just installed this over the beta WDDM 1.1 driver that came with Windows 7, and it worked perfectly.
I can't wait to get home and try this out
I read so e horrific reviews of this already wow
Hopefully it's not as bad as they say
AngelfireUk83
03-19-09, 06:25 AM
So is there any actual point in downloading these for Win XP users basically it's adds W7 support is that all.
Bon3thugz43v3r
03-19-09, 08:25 AM
So is there any actual point in downloading these for Win XP users basically it's adds W7 support is that all.
Does more than just add W7 support. I know its supposed to increase F@H production as well on the newer cards. HD2xxx and higher.
OnDborder
03-19-09, 11:22 AM
Crashed,I could write less buggy software in my sleep... oh wait I do write less buggy software in my sleep. This is a .Net framework error. now I will have to do some major unistal/reinstalling or just get a GTX295:)
Man, I hate that when that happens..
Just curious, what is your un-install/install procedure when crossfired?
ThaMahstah
03-19-09, 03:38 PM
So if I'm not using Windows 7, should I still download this?
At 1920 x 1080 I gained Massive frames with with windows 7 and gta Iv
now I have it maxed out with 1 4870 dk 1gb card
Only the distance is at 10
I did notice catalyst dosent work with the fan
I had to use asus tool to mod the fan to high
probably, its the latest driver... just hope it works in your system. :)
Ya I'm afraid of when I get my second 4870 today
I hear. CRossfire sucks on this version
I'll post what I find out
Bon3thugz43v3r
03-20-09, 02:30 PM
Man these new drivers are great. I have no stuttering in Farcry 2 or Fallout 3 anymore. All my games are finally running the way they should. Good work ATI.
OnDborder
03-20-09, 03:13 PM
Ya I'm afraid of when I get my second 4870 today
I hear. CRossfire sucks on this version
I'll post what I find out
Just make sure you install crossfire correctly.
Some people blame the drivers or ati for crashs and error messages. When sometimes it's the install procedure.
I put these right over the top on the 9.2's with no problems with Crossfire.
OnDborder
03-20-09, 04:16 PM
I'm usually not that lucky.
I just remove in order and install in order, just to be safe.
These arent just for windows 7, bug fixes and upgrades go across the board with new drivers generally. Make sure you grab them if you have anything newer than a 3xxx series, whether you're on Vista, XP, or 7.
If you are on 2xxx or below, chances are you already have a favorite driver set.
I'm usually not that lucky.
I just remove in order and install in order, just to be safe.According to the makers of the Catalist drivers, they have their own built-in uninstall routine during the install process. All you are supposed to do is go over the top of the installed driver. Driver Sweeper was the cause of my Error 43 saga and Vista32. It is a hard habit to break not doing the uninstall-reboot-Safemode_driver cleaner-reboot-install new driver thing but so far I have had zero issues with ATI drivers. And no more Error43 and Crossfire works every time.
Nebulous
03-20-09, 04:42 PM
I did the following:
Uninstalled old drivers
Reboot into safe mode
Run Driver Sweeper
Reboot into normal mode
Install New drivers
Reboot
CrossFire working just fine.
No issues to report..yet :)
Bon3thugz43v3r
03-20-09, 04:48 PM
I did the following:
Uninstalled old drivers
Reboot into safe mode
Run Driver Sweeper
Reboot into normal mode
Install New drivers
Reboot
CrossFire working just fine.
No issues to report..yet :)
Although you got it working I just want to make sure people know that this is the OLD OBSOLETE way of doing things.
The proper way now (As stated above) is to just install the drivers on top of the old ones.
The only circumstance where you should use driver sweeper or driver cleaner is if you are switching between nvidia and ati, and to lazy to reformat.
Nebulous
03-20-09, 04:51 PM
Although you got it working I just want to make sure people know that this is the OLD OBSOLETE way of doing things.
The proper way now (As stated above) is to just install the drivers on top of the old ones.
The only circumstance where you should use driver sweeper or driver cleaner is if you are switching between nvidia and ati, and to lazy to reformat.
Tho this may be the "OLD OBSOLETE" way, I've been doing it like this for quite a while and it hasn't let me down yet. I'll continue to do it like this as this works best for me.
Everyone has their own way, this is mine.
OnDborder
03-20-09, 04:57 PM
I did the following:
Uninstalled old drivers
Reboot into safe mode
Run Driver Sweeper
Reboot into normal mode
Install New drivers
Reboot
CrossFire working just fine.
No issues to report..yet :)
Do you have to "disable" crossfire first?
It seems I have to or everything gets fubar'd.
I go as far as removing the second card before installing the newer/older catz.
It seems to work for my trifireX.
Nebulous
03-20-09, 05:03 PM
Do you have to "disable" crossfire first?
It seems I have to or everything gets fubar'd.
I go as far as removing the second card before installing the newer/older catz.
It seems to work for my trifireX.
Nope, not at all. I did'nt even have to remove the 2nd card. I just did it as I posted and evrything worked perfect right off the bat.
I remember using Driver Cleaner, but it's not Vista supported, so I switched over to Driver Sweeper.
Bon3thugz43v3r
03-20-09, 05:24 PM
Tho this may be the "OLD OBSOLETE" way, I've been doing it like this for quite a while and it hasn't let me down yet. I'll continue to do it like this as this works best for me.
Everyone has their own way, this is mine.
It used to be that the preferred method was the one you mentioned. As of lately, the correct procedure has been changed. If you go to the Catalyst Software's Technical Support page you can read up on how to uninstall/install their drivers correctly.
Although you may think everyone has their own way of doing it, that is not the case. People want to do it correctly and they may look to a thread such as this for answers. By you posting your old and obsolete method, other people will follow and more than likely run into problems. I simply was stating that the method you are using is old and out dated. I DID NOT SAY THAT IT WOULDN'T WORK.
You are simply uninformed and can't take the information without acting like your intelligence is being insulted. Anyways, your a senior member so you should know all about maturity right?
It used to be that the preferred method was the one you mentioned. As of lately, the correct procedure has been changed. If you go to the Catalyst Software's Technical Support page you can read up on how to uninstall/install their drivers correctly.
Although you may think everyone has their own way of doing it, that is not the case. People want to do it correctly and they may look to a thread such as this for answers. By you posting your old and obsolete method, other people will follow and more than likely run into problems. I simply was stating that the method you are using is old and out dated. I DID NOT SAY THAT IT WOULDN'T WORK.
You are simply uninformed and can't take the information without acting like your intelligence is being insulted. Anyways, your a senior member so you should know all about maturity right?
I agree with this, the sweep through safe mode method should only be used when downgrading or switching hardware. If the hardware doesnt change and you're only going from 9.2 to 9.3, you install over and that's it.
Nebulous
03-20-09, 07:19 PM
It used to be that the preferred method was the one you mentioned. As of lately, the correct procedure has been changed. If you go to the Catalyst Software's Technical Support page you can read up on how to uninstall/install their drivers correctly.
Although you may think everyone has their own way of doing it, that is not the case. People want to do it correctly and they may look to a thread such as this for answers. By you posting your old and obsolete method, other people will follow and more than likely run into problems. I simply was stating that the method you are using is old and out dated. I DID NOT SAY THAT IT WOULDN'T WORK.
You are simply uninformed and can't take the information without acting like your intelligence is being insulted. Anyways, your a senior member so you should know all about maturity right?
Again I do what works for me. Again everyone has their own methods of uninstalling and installing drivers. I've been doing this same method for a long time. People that just install drivers over the old drivers/overwriting exsisting drivers is asking for trouble. They wonder why their display is acting all screwy or their games don't run properly until they completely remove the old drivers and install the new ones fresh.
Hmmm.....funny how when I've been doing the "old and obsolete method" I've never encountered any graphic/display problems..
And since I am a Senior member I do know alot more about maturity than you do trying to instigate an argument :rolleyes:
End of discussion-
Bon3thugz43v3r
03-20-09, 07:41 PM
Again I do what works for me. Again everyone has their own methods of uninstalling and installing drivers. I've been doing this same method for a long time. People that just install drivers over the old drivers/overwriting exsisting drivers is asking for trouble. They wonder why their display is acting all screwy or their games don't run properly until they completely remove the old drivers and install the new ones fresh.
Hmmm.....funny how when I've been doing the "old and obsolete method" I've never encountered any graphic/display problems..
And since I am a Senior member I do know alot more about maturity than you do trying to instigate an argument :rolleyes:
End of discussion-
Honestly, I am not trying to instigate an argument. I am simply trying to help those who are installing new drivers and want to know the proper way to do it.
Oh and since you were performing your Driver Sweeper/Driver Cleaner method long before I was a member (By the way the same amount of time as you have been a member here bud.) which was in 2002, then you must have had some pretty nifty software because Driver Sweeper was made in 2007 and Driver Cleaner Pro Beta was in 2004.
yes yes, i also uninstalld cat, then reboot, then run driver cleaner, reboot, install 9.3, reboot, works fine...
yes me also..i got my new card few hours ago..
installed the card...
put on the crossfire straps
plugged in all the connecters for the power..
rebooted..
windows started and installed the newest drivers automaticly on widnows 7
enabled crossfire via catalyst..
started asus smart doc ..turned fans up to max still running at 50c gpu ...
ran a bench with gtaiv on max..about 35 fps..what can i say for max everything lol..
60fps when i turn a few things down ..i think all in all this game sucks for pc they did not port this right or something ..no way it should use all of what i got ...
nothingto complain about thoe..everything works fine..
I "had" always done it the "old way" also. And then along come the ATI 8.12's and all at once I start getting visted by MR Error 43 on my Vista install. Same thing with 9.1. That started a journey of spending countless hours of reading on the subject of what could cause this dreaded Error 43. The most recurring fix was how a Fresh Vista install can cure the problem. But wait, how can that be? I thought. If you had always followed the "old way" of driver updating, you always would have a fresh path for the new drivers, with nothing of the old there to cause a problem. Makes sense to me. But, in my reading I also found numerous references by ATI techs saying to not do it the "old way" but to always install over the installed drivers. This makes no sense to me, so I kept searching, all the while stuck with the 8.11's if I wanted both of my 4870's to work. I started searching on Driver Sweeper in all the Error 43 posts and found a theory that while it is a great program for use on XP, in Vista, it was sometimes deleting whole keys instead of modifying them. My previous Vista install had always been done the "old way", with Driver Sweeper. Now I started to go HMMMMMM.. During this time I was also running Win7, which had never seen Driver Sweeper, but I was getting the same Error 43 with it, so I am still not convinced that it was the "old way" causing my problem. Some more searching turned up a bios hotfix for one of my 4870's. I updated the bios and what do you know, Error 43 was banished from my Win7 install. That must have been the problem all along. So back to Vista with my new bios I go, but alas, MR Error 43 is still there in my Driver Swept Vista. But wait, I know the cards do work in Crossfire with the 9.1's, and I know the driver' themselves work since not every one with dual gpu's is experiencing this. That only leaves the o/s level as the problem. So, I bit the bullet and did a fresh Vista install and slapped the 9.1's and what do you know. No Error 43 and Crossfire working properly at last. I have since done 9.2's and now 9.3's right over the top and all is well and working just like it is supposed to. Lucky, could be but I don't think so. My theory is this. ATI/AMD decides to make it easier to install their driver sets for the Common User. The include an install routine that knows what to keep and what to get rid of. It gets this install routine from first looking in the current registry for what card and driver and options are installed. BUT someone comes along with a program like Driver Sweeper and jumbles up all the information, changing some of it, deleting some of it, and now the ATI installer does not have the correct information that it needs to do the install correctly. Am I right in this theory? Who knows, but I do know I have not had a problem since doing it the way ATI says I need to do it. I had never had a problem the "old way" either. But then I did, and it cost me many hours upon hours to find out that maybe it was time for "me" to put away the old and embrace the new. BYMMV and To Each His Own.
for those of you who successfully upgraded to 9.3, is there any improvement performance-wise? I couldn't oc in 9.3 so i reverted back to 9.1...
yes since i use winodws 7 theres a big diffrence
but before none of it worked right...so...
i dont oc my cards so ....
OnDborder
03-21-09, 12:20 AM
Does this "new school" installation work with regressing back to older catz?
For instance, if I find that 8.12's bench better than 9.2's in Vista and have 9.2's installed..
BTW, Drivercleaner works with Vista64, the pro version that you buy. Driversweeper messed me up once. Once bitten,,,
It would be nice to know what method of installation mgoode used in order to get that error message.
gibletzor
03-21-09, 03:07 AM
For some reason Left 4 Dead thinks my 9.3 drivers are out of date and warns me about it before playing. lol Plays fine though... :shrug:
Does this "new school" installation work with regressing back to older catz?
For instance, if I find that 8.12's bench better than 9.2's in Vista and have 9.2's installed..
BTW, Drivercleaner works with Vista64, the pro version that you buy. Driversweeper messed me up once. Once bitten,,,
It would be nice to know what method of installation mgoode used in order to get that error message.
I used the "just install it over the existing driver" method as that worked when I went from 9.1 to 9.2. I know that I got .Net error because I code in .Net and Java daily writing finacial software. It looks like a conflict between CCC and a .net library installed on my machine. I have had mixed luck with both methods described in this thread. In my expereince different versions of the .Net framework don't play well together so if you have program written with .Net 1.1, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0 previously installed on your machine and then you install a program wriiten with the latstest version 3.5with SP1((Like CCC) some times you get errors and funky things happening. I think this is why some people have problems with the CCC install and some peolpe dont. Its really not the drivers that are causing issues its the CCC application, thats my 2 cents:)
Just for giggles I installed the 9.3 drivers only and that went fine. I will have to do the whole driver cleaner thing to get the 9.3 catalyst installed. I think once I get a clean CCC install I will only update the drivers and see how that works. I am thinking 9.0 CCC with 9.3 drivers and see what happens.
SilverJag
03-21-09, 09:54 AM
I seem to be having problems in GTA4 after the transition from 8.12 to 9.3 - I intermittently observe gray flashing lines; starts slow at first then it encompasses the entire screen. Anybody with the same problem?
I seem to be having problems in GTA4 after the transition from 8.12 to 9.3 - I intermittently observe gray flashing lines; starts slow at first then it encompasses the entire screen. Anybody with the same problem?
no that is not the case..something is wrong there...
thats what i tested on is gtaiv with the bench mark and what not it runs great..
redrumy3
03-22-09, 04:54 PM
Just installed drivers for 4890 for my card had to mod inf they are 8.92.3 so far no problems :) you can get them here, manually install them through device manager.
vista 32 and 64 bit
xp 32 bit
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=291098
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8448/12918978.jpg
wingman65
03-22-09, 08:15 PM
I usually Uninstall old drivers before installing the new ones but installed 9.3 right over 9.2 in Windows 7 without a hitch. It all works flawlessly.
Arklite
03-23-09, 12:14 AM
Hmm, this update is giving me a time and a half. Keep getting a cli.implementation error whenever I install it. I've done a full uninstall + driver sweep/cc cleaner twice now and it still won't install properly (the error mentioned occurs when you try to open CCC.) Any thoughts, gentlemen? running two 4850's in crossfire, was running fine with 9.2.
Edit: Actually, it seems this issue is not specific to this version. I will create a separate post for this issue.
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