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Celemine1Gig
01-21-02, 09:15 AM
Hi,

I already told you that I could boot at 200 MHz FSB, but it crashed before I got into windows.
Now I got it to boot and to load windows and to work just long enough so that I could take a WCPUID shot. Shortly after taking the screenshot, the system crashed! But it worked and I think if I'll have at the weekend to put on all those heatsinks, that I prepared to cool all the stuff on the board that gets pretty hot, I'll perhaps be able to run 200 MHz FSB stable!:eek:

Trap
01-21-02, 09:20 AM
I already told you that i envy you on that awesome overclock keep up the good work hehehehhehe
:D :D :D :beer: :beer:

nuciles
01-21-02, 09:28 AM
Awesome dude!!! What is your CPU load temp? You are not even using Water Cooling???

Celemine1Gig
01-21-02, 09:31 AM
It was not stable enough at that speed to start MBM and report the temps, but I think the temps don't exceed ~43°C. At that speed and at the moment, it's mainly the northbridge cooling, that is holding me back!;)

MadMan007
01-21-02, 11:05 AM
Just imagine what you could do with a PIII Tualatin, or even better -S, and that FSB!! LOL, a 1.13 PIII --> 1.7GHz!! :eek: :eek: (like that would ever happen :D)

Trap
01-21-02, 11:10 AM
I tried hard not to say it but ..Intel rulez!!
hehehehe
:beer: :beer: :beer:

Flu!d
01-21-02, 02:14 PM
Hey good job Celemine1gig!:D

Celemine1Gig
01-21-02, 02:16 PM
Thx!! Without your research Flu!d, I wouldn't even have bought the board!

Thanks again!:D

calypso_ri
01-21-02, 08:34 PM
Hmhm... Nice work there! :)

Just a bit of advice... Are you cooling you PLL chip? It is very hot with >144MHz FSB! Just give it some kind of heatsink, and it'll be good enough... :)

BTW., it's really unbelievable! :)

Keep on with this! It's a real breakthrough!

nuciles
01-21-02, 09:00 PM
Oh man. I think I should buy GA-6OXET, but I did not. May want to get the board with a Tually, if my financial situation allows me to do so.

Yodums
01-21-02, 11:34 PM
Go hook up a water rig and that thing will hit it I just know it maybe the temperatures.

And probably get more vcore out of that thing and not worry since its water!

Yodums

tainice
01-22-02, 12:03 AM
:eek: damn bro...what an impressive display of your ocing skill!! 200fsb..now we are talkin'!! BTW, why don't u change your name to Petinmin1ghz, which is perfectly suit your current situation!! he he..just kidding. Anyway, i am just curious, could u be so kind to list out all your spec?

Flu!d
01-22-02, 12:25 AM
Thx!! Without your research Flu!d, I wouldn't even have bought the board!

That's OK Celemine1gig....I'm touched!:)

I just know a good thing when I see it!

Keep us updated....

Celemine1Gig
01-22-02, 10:18 AM
I'm really a nice guy, I know!!:p :p :D

It's simply a great board!!
And the clock generator and northbridge are not cooled properly yet, because I have a lot of work to do for school at the moment, so that I don't have enough time to finish my cooling-project!!:cool:

BTW, my specs are listed below in the signature! I could add that the CPU is a P3 667 cCo-stepping with SL-code: SL4CJ from week 36. My RAM runs flawlessly at 166 MHz CL2 2-2-2 5/7, so 200 MHz CL3 3-3-3 7/9 shouldn't be a problem. No divider was set when running 200 MHz FSB, so that PCI speed was 50 MHz and I had to set the IDE mode to DMA disabled and PIO mode 1 in order to be able to boot into windows without loosing data. I have the dividers to run the PCI speed at either 31 MHz(pll24) or 37 MHz(pll16) when the FSB is set to 200 MHz, but I couldn't try it yesterday, becuase I do really need a more effective northbridge cooling before these settings, that's to say 200 MHz FSB, divider enabled and UDMA enabled, will work. The named settings do stress the northbridge too much at the moment, so that it's too much heat for the blue little heatsink that was installed by Gigabyte. I already added a 40x40x10mm fan spinnin at 5300 RPM, but that didn't help much. On the weekend I'll have enough time to finish my project, I hope!! But don't get mad, I'll keep you updated!:burn:

Celemine1Gig
01-22-02, 02:20 PM
Yes I really thought of getting a P3 866 cD0 for quite some time, but now that the new Celeron Tualatin 1 GHz is out (and odf course because it's so damned cheap!!) I'll get one of these. I hope I can get an OEM Philippine chip or even a boxed one and then I'll clock it to the limits. :mad: :D

Flu!d
01-22-02, 02:23 PM
You may need to vid pin the Tualatin....Then again, who knows? You might be lucky!

macsout
01-22-02, 03:27 PM
i just ordered a 1.1 ghz celeron from NEWEGG...........hope i can go half that far.........i'm new at this stuff...but i'll be keeping an eye out for your numbers and comments

nuciles
01-22-02, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by macsout
i just ordered a 1.1 ghz celeron from NEWEGG...........hope i can go half that far.........i'm new at this stuff...but i'll be keeping an eye out for your numbers and comments

Welcome to the overclockers world. Hope you enjoy the fun of it.

Celemine1Gig
05-23-02, 05:59 PM
Well, it's time to continue where I had to stop some months ago:D

Now, I got a new P3 667 FCPGA cC0-stepping and it overclocks very well. I had it upto 850 MHz (170 Mhz FSB) yesterday.

Tomorrow I'll finish my mobo cooling project, that's to say I'll put a heatsink on every chip on the mobo(using Arctic Alumina Adhesive) that produces heat(northbridge, southbridge, clock generator, voltage regualtors).

Then I'll cut heatsinks for my RAM to size and I'll lap them to a mirror finsh and attach them to the RAM with some Arctic Alumina Adhesive(perhaps I'll also addd some copper to the heatsinks to make them work better, but I think the aluminium heatsinks will be enough).

Finally I'll make me a custom copper spacer for my P3 and I'll try the "Coppermine deep lapping" technique from Martinus(http://home.pacific.net.au/~frogge/pepper/lap/lapreport1.html), to get a nearly perfect surface and also lower temps for the P3.

I hope this won't take longer than until Saturday.

So stay tuned! I'll keep you informed!

The only thing that I don't like about my motherboard is that it goes only upto 1,8V VCore for Coppermine CPUs, but all i815 b-steps boards have that "problem". But fortunately I already have the instructions for a voltage mod on that board, if I really need it.

Here's the first pic to let you know I'm already busy getting this chip and first of all the FSB as high as possible.

Celemine1Gig
05-24-02, 05:52 PM
Just to let you know that I'm really working on the project:

Today I put the heatsinks onto the motherboard's clock generator,voltage regulators(I had alredy attached the heatsinks to northbridge, southbridge and sounblaster some months ago) and I prepared(that's to say cut to size and lapped them to a mirror finish) my RAMsinks!

All I have to say is:
The Arctic Alumina Adhesive works very well!

Finally, I thik I'll open a new thread if I got new(and hopefully better) results, perhaps on Sunday!

So far so good!

Regards

Ingo;)

Peter007
05-25-02, 08:14 AM
Congradulation!.....................I envy You

Perhaps, you can go into SAFE-MODE and run Sandra for a quick CPU test.

I had some trouble pushing my Celeron 700 to1050mhz, but I was able to snuck into the SAFE-MODE to do a quick CPU test, snap shot it, before it crash again.

Like to see a result of that 200mhz BUS

You Ruled......I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy.......Your the Overclocking Master

CSHawkeye81
05-25-02, 09:49 AM
wow man congrats that is so cool.

Celemine1Gig
05-25-02, 10:04 AM
You're exaggerating! I didn't want to show off with these results, I only wanted to show that it is indead possible to reach 200 MHz FSB with a SD-RAM system.
And of course I had the luck to pick above average components, I think, that can stand the stress at these FSB speeds.;)

BTW, I already finished the RAM, thats to say I glued the RAMsinks on finally, with Arctic Alumina Adhesive again. Now I'm curious to see the results, because all that cutting and lapping of the various heatsinks really was hard work.

Celemine1Gig
05-26-02, 05:13 PM
Well today I put all my modified parts together again, hoping for the long awaited P3 667@1000MHz, but then the dissapointment. I could boot into windows at upto 190 MHz FSB, but that was all. After a few minutes the system would crash. I backed down the mem timings, but that didn't help either. So I came to the conclusion, that the chip is the limit this time. The mobo can only provide upto 1,8V Vcore, becuase it's a Tualatin VRM 8.5 board. Unfortunately this P3 would need about 1,95V to be stable at 1GHz. My last P3 667 was made in Malaysia and this one I'm using at the moment is from Costa Rica; both are/were cC0-stepping; my last P3 667 died due to overvoltage on a defective board:(

But I think I have to be satisfied with what I have! I'll now try the deep lapping technique on that chip, as I already mentioned in one of my last posts and perhaps that and some burn in will help:D

If the lapping won't help I still have something in common. A voltage mod for that board. I already have the instructions, but as I said, it's my last alternative ;)

Celemine1Gig
05-26-02, 05:41 PM
And finally I couldn't resist to post these. The mem scores at 180MHz FSB RAM@CL3:D