ZyXEL ZyWALL 2 PLUS

[SuperMiguel]

Any of you guys using this ZyXEL ZyWALL 2 PLUS??

[ppe1700]

yes.

[SuperMiguel]

yes.

how u like the VPN features of it?? fast enough?? also have you played with the CLI?

[ppe1700]

didnt know there was a need for CLi. there is a web based gui that you can do all the required config in there.

what vpn are you referring to? remote access or branch office (site to site) ?
i have not used or configured the vpn setup. but if the encryption levels needed are stated on the box then why not?

[rainless]

I used it in France.

...wasn't impressed.

[ppe1700]

I used it in France.

...wasn't impressed.

you get what you pay for, what do you expect for an entry level firewall?
it does everything it says on the box. what would it need to do to "impress" you? :screwy:

[SuperMiguel]

you get what you pay for, what do you expect for an entry level firewall?
it does everything it says on the box. what would it need to do to "impress" you? :screwy:

ummm if it actually does what it says on the box for $150 i would be super impress :)

[SuperMiguel]

didnt know there was a need for CLi. there is a web based gui that you can do all the required config in there.



there is no need for CLI in cisco :) everything could be done using the web interface... :) now i havent meet the first cisco guy using the cisco web interface :)

[ppe1700]

ummm if it actually does what it says on the box for $150 i would be super impress :) and yes it does have a CLI which i heard sucks :(

if it didnt do something that it was supposed to do then an RMA would be necessary for a replacement. when you buy something for a purpose, and the device does not fill that purpose which is documented that it is supposed to do, then there is obviously a fault with said device.

again, why would you need a CLI when there is a fully functional web based user interface that has been made for the purpose of ease of access and configuration?

[ppe1700]

there is no need for CLI in cisco :) everything could be done using the web interface... :)

are you actually stupid or just trying to wind me up?

[SuperMiguel]

again, why would you need a CLI when there is a fully functional web based user interface that has been made for the purpose of ease of access and configuration?

same reason i dont use the web configurator of cisco :)... efficiency

[ppe1700]

same reason i dont use the web configurator of cisco :)

i think you are missing the point. some manufacturers make their products to be used with a gui, and some dont. zyxel make theirs with a gui, so does netgear and thomson speedtouch. i cant see of any reason other than complete boredom as to why anyone would want to use a cli for these, and the reason i say that is because everything you would need to do is done in the gui with a few clicks. there is usually no added functionality using the cli with these manufacturers. you may get further diagostics of your dsl line, but whats the point for every day use? you would only need this when troubleshooting, but even then there is a basic stats page for this anyway in the gui.

manufacturers like cisco make their products with a cli in mind. it seems as the gui is an afterthought. the gui does not have full control over the complete running configuration, and in some situations the gui will not be able to completely tweek your setup to suit. yes there is a gui but mainly you would need a cli for configuring this equipment.

this is why there are "targeted market audience" meaning the target audience for a zyxel is a home user, whilst the target audience for a cisco device is a small medium business or a large multi area enterprise.
(audience might not be the right word but hopefully you know what i mean)

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And you have the balls to call me stupid :)

yes i do. and there was not anything in that post that wasnt valid. and that was actually a question rather than a statement due to your strange posts.

[SuperMiguel]

K :) woohoo we got out of the way :) let me start over... the reason why i wanted to know how good or how was the CLI was because most of the times at work im with a computer with only UNIX, no gui at all.. meaning i cant get to the web base application. If the CLI is any good i can ssh to it and check the status and configure it... This will go into a remote location that will have 2 computers and 1 server (i need to have VPN access to this location, reason why i asked about the vpn).. Reason why im not going with cisco is because if i buy this and im able to do the same that with a 18xx cisco router.. I can put an extra $2000 in my pocket :)

[ppe1700]

im surprised to see that this is SSH capable. so providing it generates is own certificate on bootup then you would be able to access it via its manufacturer set ip address. i couldnt find any websites that tell if its menu driven or command line input. if you have never used one before i would expect a learning process to go with it. its highly likely the software is based on linux though so it might make you feel comfortable.

[SuperMiguel]

Ya it supports SSH, also i readed somewhere that its menu driven, but like u said some manufactures will take features away from the CLI.. hopefully it has a fully functional CLI.. on the zyxel website says:

System Management
Web GUI (HTTP, HTTPS)
Command Line Interface (Console, Telnet, SSH)
Firmware Upgrade (Web GUI, TFTP/FTP/SFTP)
Vantage Centralized Network Management*

[ppe1700]

it doesnt say limited or anything like that, with that, i wouldnt doubt the functionality of ssh over the gui

[SuperMiguel]

it doesnt say limited or anything like that, with that, i wouldnt doubt the functionality of ssh over the gui

screw research ima buy it and check it out... :) see no reason to call me stupid :)