Amd Duron 800Mhz cooling..

[FerrariF50]

I'm thinking about water cooling this Cpu..once I overclock it...But whats the best Hsf? I been looking at this one over at newegg.com


like this Dynatron DY1206BH-625 COPPER SUPER e-CPU COOLER w/ 6800 RPM

Thermal Resistance: AMD:0.40°C/W

http://65.119.30.151/productimage/35-114-002-02.JPG

or this VANTEC CCK-6035D

looking at the clips on their...Do they lactch on to those little hooks on the side of the cpu socket? Are they strong enough?

http://65.119.30.151/productimage/35-110-001-01.JPG

GLOBALWIN's CAK-II 38 Fan speed 7000 Rpm's

http://65.119.30.151/productimage/35-107-004-01.JPG

GLOBALWIN's WBK38 CPU Heatsink & Delta Dual Ballbearing Fan, Approved for Athlon XP 1900+ C 12V. Fan Speed: 6800 + 15% RPM. Air Delivery: 37.61 CFM.


http://65.119.30.151/productimage/35-107-001-02.JPG

And now onto Radiators...Looking over at DangerDen What about these 2 radiators?

http://dangerden.com/images/cooling_cube/boxster4.gif

Outside: 4 3/4" x 5 3/8" x 4 3/8"



Features:

Copper Core (No Battery Effect)
Use with 3/8" Tubing
4 row / 15 pass
35 Aluminum Fins
Perfect fit for a 120mm Fan

The Super Cube

http://dangerden.com/images/super_cube/both_large.gif

Outside: 8" x 6.4" x 4.75" (LxWxH)



Features:

1/4 NPT Female Fittings
Copper Construction (No Battery Effect)
Use with 3/8" OR 1/2" Tubing
1/2" Copper Tubing
39 Copper Fins
Mounting Holes for 120mm Fans


The super cube looks nice but it looks to large...The radiator above the super Cube looks better.. As for the water pump I'm going to use the Maxi-Jet 1200.. If that one is ok. Anything else I need to know?

[FerrariF50]

bump I edited it

[The Doors]

Hi Mike,
why not a Millennium Glaciator II, quiet & cool, rated of 0.34°C/W?
Take a look here (http://www.overclockers.com/articles373/) for more info ;)

c:\documenti\immagini\Glaciator2.jpg

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Hi Mike,
why not a Millennium Glaciator II, quiet & cool, rated of 0.34°C/W?
Take a look here (http://www.overclockers.com/articles373/) for more info ;)

c:\documenti\immagini\Glaciator2.jpg


yeah I heard about it but where can I get it?

[Newbie_Doo]

Your best bet is to look at the Heatsink guide on the front page (http://www.overclockers.com/articles373/) . For water blocks, look at Danger Den (http://www.dangerden.com) and Swiftech (http://www.swiftnets.com) . I am using a Maze-1 on my T-bird.

[The Doors]

Take a look directly on the Millennium Thermal Solutions (http://www.millennium-thermal.com/start.htm) website ;)

[Newbie_Doo]

The GlaciatorII can be found HERE (http://www.millennium-thermal.com/start.htm) . I copied the link in the article referenced above.

[FerrariF50]

Yeah I love that heatsink! that think looks like it can do some massive cooling... How high of a cpu can I use it for? Also the size of it has me a little worried...haveing my mobo right in front of me I don't know if it will fit... Take a look..

Also looking at those Swiftech waterblocks....I don't need one of those Shims..I guess thats what you call it around the Cpu?

[FerrariF50]

that Capastior looks like it might get in the way

If I get the swiftech it wont be a problem...I just might stick with the swifttech..


looking over at Swiftech's website... I don't think I will mess with that new MCW462-B Water Block...I don't like how you have to mount it... You have to put standoffs on the mobo... And where one of the stand off's go their is some kind of little chip very close to where one would go and I don't want to risk messing up a $136 board.

You can see it as well... It's the Top row of holes above the Cpu socket the on on the Right.

[The Doors]

Mike, this HS is enough for an XP+ not OCed to the extreme, so it's more than enough for a Duron, but it's always needed a good Case airflow. Onestly I don't think that you will have probs to fit properly the Glaciator II on that Mobo, and remember, in bundle there's a small amount of Artic Silver too! ;)

[FerrariF50]

Well i'm not too in a rush to get that Glaciator II because my Mobo will only take a Amd Xp up to 1.2 Ghz... And by that time I will get a soyo Dragon.. then a faster Amd... so this really just to get the system up and running so I can get this PII 450 off my hands.. Plus I need another case to fit all the hardware soon to come in the case..

[The Doors]

Well, considering the price it's for sure a good deal for me, and I'm very impatient ot test this HS on my new XP+ system, I'm sure to get really interesting results.

[FerrariF50]

What about power supplys? I need a good one... 400watts are more... They said Extermax is good but does not have a good 5V Rail.. I been hearing good stuff about antec and Sparkle..

[The Doors]

Well, a generic 300w is more than enough for a Duron not OCed, but considering that you plan to go with another upgrade ASAP, well, better go with a Sparkle or an Antec 400W, like an Enermax 431W too.

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Well, a generic 300w is more than enough for a Duron not OCed, but considering that you plan to go with another upgrade ASAP, well, better go with a Sparkle or an Antec 400W, like an Enermax 431W too.

I might try the Enermax..

[The Doors]

I'm thinking to the some kind of PS, even if I've red of some kind of probs with Enermax and system hardly OCed!

[FerrariF50]

Hey I can get a Duron 850Mhz for the same price as the 800hz... As for the power supply I will get the Antec one.

[klosters64a]

IMHO, the Vantec CCK- 6035 is the best of the conventional HSF's that you list. I have one that's waiting patiently for my wrist to heal. The SK7 clip on it is said to be second in ease of use, right behind the Vantec FCE-62540's--the easiest SK7 clip I ever used.

Almost all of the latest "60mm" HSF's rely on the banshee wail of the 60mm Delta 38 for their cooling ability. I plan to use a fandapter to replace the Delta 38 with a Delta 80mm 68cfm fan on my Vantec CCK-6035. The 80mm Delta is said to be ~1db quieter than he 60mm Delta. This is nothing, really. The important difference is that the 80mm Delta makes a lower pitched noise.

The noise of Delta 38's gets tiresome after a year.

[The Doors]

Mike, excuse me, but I don't understand, you spend a lot of money for all the rest, and not for the Cpu & Mobo, how is it possible?!
About the Antec, it's for sure a good way to go looking the specs of the Boxes of many hard OCers.

[Trap]

Well if ur buyin a new case too those from AOpen are excellent and have great PSU (HQ-08 or HX-08)

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Mike, excuse me, but I don't understand, you spend a lot of money for all the rest, and not for the Cpu & Mobo, how is it possible?!
About the Antec, it's for sure a good way to go looking the specs of the Boxes of many hard OCers.


My Mobo was $136 thats alot of me to spend.. The board has a limit of 1.2 Ghz...I don't want to max the thing right out and then thats it... I want a little head room... Plus I can work on my OC skillz :)

[The Doors]

Well, don't worry, 136$ are a lot of money for me too!
but I don't understand why this kind of Mobo with a limitation of 1.2Ghz, not better a cheaper Shuttle AK31 V3.1?

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Well, don't worry, 136$ are a lot of money for me too!
but I don't understand why this kind of Mobo with a limitation of 1.2Ghz, not better a cheaper Shuttle AK31 V3.1?

It's a Soyo SY-K7VTA-PRO


I know looking at this pic you are thinking..It only supports a 1 Ghz Cpu... Well looking in the maunal it says this..

[FerrariF50]

Now here is what the mobo Maunal says... I don't know what to think...so I guess 1.3Ghz is the limit??

[FerrariF50]

This case by Cooler Master looks nice... And the blue is not that bight....The price is just too high for me.. $246 I like the lian Li Cases but same thing..it's over my limit... I like the Lian Li case because it has a simple design but looks good with a silver finnish.

http://65.119.30.151/productimage/11-119-006-01.JPG

I love this Lian-Li case..This would save me from haveing to cut a window in it later on when I want to put a light inside... heheh and yes I do like to mod :)



http://65.119.30.151/productimage/11-112-010-01.JPG


But put aside all those nice looking cases...I need a Full Tower case... With little more then 3 5.25 Drive Bay's

[The Doors]

Mike, this is really a good Mobo, and supports up to a XP2000+ like you can check here (http://www.soyo.com.tw/cgi-bin/prodinfo.exe?track=regular&boardk7=K7VTA%20Family&bios=1) with a simple Bios Upgrade!

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Mike, this is really a good Mobo, and supports up to a XP2000+ like you can check here (http://www.soyo.com.tw/cgi-bin/prodinfo.exe?track=regular&boardk7=K7VTA%20Family&bios=1) with a Bios Upgrade!

lol you did all that looking.. What speed is the Xp 2000+ ? I'm mad because Amd with to the PR rateings... I checked out soyo page because but not the Bios page...It said it supported the Xp but I thought it was the 1.2 Ghz one... Also do I have to download all those Bios Updates? Because I'm not sure if the Mobo allready ships with the new updated Bios. I just want to be safe..I don't want to flash the wrong Bios..

[The Doors]

And about the Case, well, you can consider an Antec (http://www.antec-inc.com/product/cases/perfhome.html) full tower just with a 400W PS for around 180$, but probably other guys can suggest links to other dealer with better deal ;)

[FerrariF50]

What about the Bios updates? Do I have to download them all? to update the Bios or do I only need to download the one for the Xp 2000+ support?

[The Doors]

Originally posted by FerrariF50

lol you did all that looking.. What speed is the Xp 2000+ ? I'm mad because Amd with to the PR rateings... I checked out soyo page because but not the Bios page...It said it supported the Xp but I thought it was the 1.2 Ghz one... Also do I have to download all those Bios Updates? Because I'm not sure if the Mobo allready ships with the new updated Bios. I just want to be safe..I don't want to flash the wrong Bios..
Mike, it's a pleasure, especially for a friend like you ;)

Here follows a small list of the XP's and their real frequencies:

- Athlon XP 1500+ 1.33/266
- Athlon XP 1600+ 1.40/266
- Athlon XP 1700+ 1.47/266
- Athlon XP 1800+ 1.53/266
- Athlon XP 1900+ 1.60/266
- Athlon XP 2000+ 1.67/266

About the Bios, well, you'll know when you set up your system, but for sure the right upgrade is the first one listed into the section about the K7VTA PRO, the K7VTA PRO _2AA6, infact the others ends with a lower number like 5, 4,... :D

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors

Mike, it's a pleasure, especially for a friend like you ;)

Here follows a small list of the XP's and their real frequencies:

- Athlon XP 1500+ 1.33/266
- Athlon XP 1600+ 1.40/266
- Athlon XP 1700+ 1.47/266
- Athlon XP 1800+ 1.53/266
- Athlon XP 1900+ 1.60/266
- Athlon XP 2000+ 1.67/266

About the Bios, well, you'll know when you set up your system, but for sure the right upgrade is the first one listed into the section about the K7VTA PRO, the K7VTA PRO _2AA6, infact the others ends with a lower number like 5, 4,... :D


Whooo I did get a good board then :) I wonder about anything higher then a athlon XP 2000... Lol I really don't have the money for any of the Athlon But I should have one before or around Spring time... Also the last Bios Listed on that bios page for my mobo looks like that was a nasty thing...

BIOS revision: K7VTA PRO _2AA3
Changes: Recognize CPU of multiplier over 13X correctly. Fix the problem when using some fan, it hang up. Fix the problem of Vcore voltage is not correct.

I want my fans to work at lesast... Comes with alot of 3 Pin fan headers which i'm happy of :) 2 Com Ports Very happy about that because this Acer Mobo only has one... so I can hook up that Lcd Display I want to get to quicky monitor the temps..But I'm still trying to find out if the Display of it is large enough to MBM 5 stuff on it... here is the 632 Dsiplay half-height 5 1/4 drive bay

http://www.crystalfontz.com/products/632bracket/large_bracket_front.jpg

And the Full-height 5 1/4 Drive Bay

http://www.crystalfontz.com/products/634bracket/large_bracket_front_tux.jpg

This is going to be awesome once I get the system running.. Which should be at least 2 weeks...If I really feel good enough I will save up a little more and get a Amd Athlon 1 Ghz 266Mhz or a Athlon 1.13Ghz


Btw I never seen a Full-Height 5 1/4 Drive Bay before..

[The Doors]

Originally posted by FerrariF50
BIOS revision: K7VTA PRO _2AA3
Changes: Recognize CPU of multiplier over 13X correctly. Fix the problem when using some fan, it hang up. Fix the problem of Vcore voltage is not correct.

Mike this is an older Bios upgrade, the last one is the K7VTA PRO _2AA6, and remember that others that will come will support higher Cpu, like for example the XP2100+ & the XP2200+ soon released.
About the LCD panel, well, are really great!
I'm not experienced about, but I must admit that are really cool & huge! :eek:

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors

Mike this is an older Bios upgrade, the last one is the K7VTA PRO _2AA6, and remember that others that will come will support higher Cpu, like for example the XP2100+ & the XP2200+ soon released.
About the LCD panel, well, are really great!
I'm not experienced about, but I must admit that are really cool & huge! :eek:


Ok so the Bios allready came with that bios updated...so Then I just need the Bios update that supports The Xp 2000+...... Sorry I get really strict about Bios... I don't want to mess this board up now.. I'm really looking forward to seeing it run :)

[FerrariF50]

I have another question I just thought of... Which one of Amd's Processors has 3dNow! and SSE Support?

[The Doors]

Well, onestly I'm not sure, but I suppose that all supports 3dNow! and only the XP+ the SSE.

[Rezman5]

Check here (http://www.directron.com/201b.html) for a REALLY nice aluminum case. My friend just got his in today...it is sweet. 6 fans, 4 front USBs, plus it is all black, really nice, and pretty. And only for $150!!!

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Well, onestly I'm not sure, but I suppose that all supports 3dNow! and only the XP+ the SSE.


Yeah I think thats how it is... Amd website well it could use a little work.... Anyway.. I have this Panaflo fan.... It's not a 3 wire but their fans are nice.... I had this 12V fan running at 24Volts for over 3 weeks... So I can really trust it to not fail...I had some El Cheapo from my Old El Cheapo Ast computer from the power supply...I walked out of the room for like 3 Min...I had the fan hooked up to 24Volts I was walking up to my room and I smell a burning fan! It was smokeing but it never got on fire.. this Panaflo came from a very old Ibm computer like from 1984... I took the whole system apart...That Hard Drive was Huge!! But very small... Anyway.. I'm cleaning stuff out..

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by Rezman5
Check here (http://www.directron.com/201b.html) for a REALLY nice aluminum case. My friend just got his in today...it is sweet. 6 fans, 4 front USBs, plus it is all black, really nice, and pretty. And only for $150!!!


That case is not bad...I don't really care for the air hole design in the front.... I'm going to be very picky about a case because I want one that will grow with me...I'm looking for a full tower with like 5 1/4 drive bays... At least that amount.. Time for a big overhaul

[The Doors]

Mike, take a look here (http://www.directron.com/yy0210.html) for the Yeong-Yang Mini Cube Server, it's really cool, and there's all the room that you will need in the future ;) but obviously it's a little expensive, 179$!

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Mike, take a look here (http://www.directron.com/yy0210.html) for the Yeong-Yang Mini Cube Server, it's really cool, and there's all the room that you will need in the future ;) but obviously it's a little expensive, 179$!

It's nice but a little to cramped for me... See my Case sits on my desk right next to my monitor..I need to be able to get to the case quicky..

This one By Lian-Li is nice Full Tower... It's a little pricey but looks worth it... I checked out 2 reviews allready they seem to like it..Also the case is new..

http://store1.yimg.com/I/directron_1672_9782026

[FerrariF50]

I gotta another question.. I have MotherBoard Monitor on my computer...But the mobo I have now does not have anything that can be Monitored..So My question is after I get in the new mobo and check the case fans...Mbm has a thing where you change the speed...The fan in the case will slow down as well right? And is their a limit on how fast it will spin? as long as it's not drawing too much power from the fan header it's fine right?

[The Doors]

Originally posted by FerrariF50

It's nice but a little to cramped for me... See my Case sits on my desk right next to my monitor..I need to be able to get to the case quicky..
This one By Lian-Li is nice Full Tower... It's a little pricey but looks worth it... I checked out 2 reviews allready they seem to like it..Also the case is new..
Mike, are you sure that is a cramped Case? Take a look here (http://www.oc-tweaks.de/yeong_yang_cube_b0221.shtml)!!! this is my dreams Case ;) even if I must admit that the Lian Li is really nice, but personally I don't like too much the aluminium case style.

[The Doors]

Originally posted by FerrariF50
My question is after I get in the new mobo and check the case fans...Mbm has a thing where you change the speed...The fan in the case will slow down as well right? And is their a limit on how fast it will spin? as long as it's not drawing too much power from the fan header it's fine right?
Not, MBM cannot manage fans speed, you need of another kind of program, or think to something like this (http://www.caseetc.com/cgi-bin/caseetc/F-403.html?id=4gdv43EW) ;)

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors

Mike, are you sure that is a cramped Case? Take a look here (http://www.oc-tweaks.de/yeong_yang_cube_b0221.shtml)!!! this is my dreams Case ;) even if I must admit that the Lian Li is really nice, but personally I don't like too much the aluminium case style.

lol well it looks cramped to me maybe it's because of the cube style... Also yeah I know about the baybus.. I'm going to get all that stuff when I get my credit-Card. And for the Lian-Li case I don't know how the aluminium case looks but I'm so used to my black case I might get another...But my next case is going to have a window on the side :)

[The Doors]

There's SpeedFan wrote by an Italian guy, and probably by many others too, that can set the fans speed connected to the fans header on Mobo, take a look here (http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php) ;)

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
There's SpeedFan wrote by an Italian guy, and probably by many others too, that can set the fans speed connected to the fans header on Mobo, take a look here (http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php) ;)

yeah I happen to run into speedfan about 3 days ago.. I hope it works.

[The Doors]

Well, I'm too late! :)
you have only to check if your mobo is supported, otherwise you need to send an E-mail to Alfredo Milani-Comparetti asking support.

[FerrariF50]

Sure it's supported but you can never be so sure.. I will know soon how everything is up and running..

[The Doors]

You're absolutly right ;)
I've discovered this prg too late, when the cables of the Delta38 was just cutted and connected to a 4pin Molex connector for the 7v mod! :mad: well, no probs considering that now I'm going with a Glaciator II ;)

[FerrariF50]

I still want to get a baybus.. and just use it on the 2 wire fans.. That will be ok right?

[The Doors]

Yes, even if I haven't still used this kind of stuff, maybe in the future with the new case, now I wanna upgrade my system with an XP1600+ preferably stepping revision AGOGA, an Abit KR7A-Raid, 256Mb or 512Mb of Kingmax Pc2700 and a new Vid Card, probably a GF2 MX400 or a GF2 TI with 64Mb of Ram.

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Yes, even if I haven't still used this kind of stuff, maybe in the future with the new case, now I wanna upgrade my system with an XP1600+ preferably stepping revision AGOGA, an Abit KR7A-Raid, 256Mb or 512Mb of Kingmax Pc2700 and a new Vid Card, probably a GF2 MX400 or a GF2 TI with 64Mb of Ram.


Oh yeah and my mobo has a Max memory of 1.2 Gb I was not sure what size ram stick to get... I think one of them make 1 Gb ram sticks but thats alot...

[The Doors]

Mike, your Mobo can support up to 1.5Gb of ram! ;)
but you must consider that the High Performance mem modules, rated for 150Mhz and more are generally made in the size of 128 & 256Mb, no more, and the 512Mb & 1Gb sizes are very expensive.

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Mike, your Mobo can support up to 1.5Gb of ram! ;)
but you must consider that the High Performance mem modules, rated for 150Mhz and more are generally made in the size of 128 & 256Mb, no more, and the 512Mb & 1Gb sizes are very expensive.


btw Kingston's ran is cheaper then Crucial Micron 128MB ram..

What do you mean by 150Mhz? The memory I see says PC133 SDRAM RAM

[The Doors]

Yes, but there are mem modules that can handle higher freqs like 150Mhz and more, so if you plan to OC your system, and considering that the Duron's multiplier are unlocked, you can manage the multiplier like the Fsb too to get higher speeds ;)

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Yes, but there are mem modules that can handle higher freqs like 150Mhz and more, so if you plan to OC your system, and considering that the Duron's multiplier are unlocked, you can manage the multiplier like the Fsb too to get higher speeds ;)

What's that thing called that Lets me keep the Pci Bus at a normal speed? Was it a Bus something... I can't think of the name.. Also what Brand of Ram can do 150Mhz and more? I was looking at the Kingston and it can do 148Mhz..Max


Btw what happens if you clear the CMOS on a new mobo?

[The Doors]

The divider, that permit to use higher Fsb keepeng the Pci Bus in the specs, or really close.
A Duron 800Mhz basically use a multiplier of 8x and a Fsb of 100Mhz, so 8x100=800Mhz, but generally can handle Fsb of 133Mhz, and if you plan in the next months to replace the Cpu, but not the Mobo & the mem modules, well, you'll be able to use an XP+ for example (and those have the multiplier locked but unlockable) with a Fsb of 150Mhz, so it's basically an investment for the future, that's all :)

*EDITED Mushkin High Performance Rev3+ are the best for me, but many others too manufacture mem modules PC150 or better PC166, but for more info check the Mem section ;) and remember that the best results are with a Ras & Cas delay on 2 instead of 3, gives a bigger bandwidth!

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
The divider, that permit to use higher Fsb keepeng the Pci Bus in the specs, or really close.
A Duron 800Mhz basically use a multiplier of 8x and a Fsb of 100Mhz, so 8x100=800Mhz, but generally can handle Fsb of 133Mhz, and if you plan in the next months to replace the Cpu, but not the Mobo & the mem modules, well, you'll be able to use an XP+ for example (and those have the multiplier locked but unlockable) with a Fsb of 150Mhz, so it's basically an investment for the future, that's all :)

*EDITED Mushkin High Performance Rev3+ are the best for me, but many others too manufacture mem modules PC150 or better PC166, but for more info check the Mem section ;) and remember that the best results are with a Ras & Cas delay on 2 instead of 3, gives a bigger bandwidth!


Yeah I was checking out the Mushkin..It can hit 150Mhz so I shoukd be looking for a CAs 2 right? With PC150 or better?

[The Doors]

Well, the Mushkin High Performance Rev3+ are rated for CAS 2:2:2 at 150MHz and use chips with 7ns clock cycle time, on the Mushkin (http://www.mushkin.com/cgi-bin/Mushkin.filereader?3c50398719820d262740c0a80102061 1+EN/products/990774) website are available in the size of 256Mb @99$ but probably looking around you can found better prices ;)

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Well, the Mushkin High Performance Rev3+ are rated for CAS 2:2:2 at 150MHz and use chips with 7ns clock cycle time, on the Mushkin (http://www.mushkin.com/cgi-bin/Mushkin.filereader?3c50398719820d262740c0a80102061 1+EN/products/990774) website are available in the size of 256Mb @99$ but probably looking around you can found better prices ;)

Well If I could get that my system would be nice! I think I might get rid of this hard drive cooler I have now siting in my drive bay... It's by Antec and it's really nothing really Also I'm going to be putting togeather a water tank for the Watercooling.. It's design is going to be simple..

[The Doors]

Any kind of system watercooled is totally out of my experience, and onestly I'm seriously worryed to mix into the same box electricity & water!!! :eek: especially for the condensation probs & possible leakage of water from the circuit.

[FerrariF50]

Well if you have everything nice it tight it sould not be a problem... Plus I would run it for 24 hours outside the case before I would ever put it in..

[The Doors]

Well, probably I'll consider this way when aircooling will be not enough for my OCed system, for the moment not on my way :D even if it's really interesting a system without noise.

[FerrariF50]

Did you see my other post on useing a peltier to cool the water..one person said it can be done... if I do it that way I can allways have the system cooler then room temp... I don't know if Condensation would form ontop of the Cpu..because the peltier would be on the side of the water tank.

[The Doors]

Yes, I did it, it's an interesting and cool idea, I really need to go more in deep about the watercooling ;)

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Yes, I did it, it's an interesting and cool idea, I really need to go more in deep about the watercooling ;)

I'm really paranoid about haveing those large heatsinks on my processor... plus I have a capastor that could be in the way... The waterblock is smaller theirfor I wont have a hard time and likey to crush the core.. I'm looking at the New swithtech waterblocks... But if i could get a peltier to do that without condensation that would be cool!

[The Doors]

Well, considering that you'll go with an Amd cpu you can think to use a shim to avoid possible damages to the Core, but for sure a good watercool set up can provide cooler temps without noise.

[FerrariF50]

yeah...My case is allready loud as it is now..

[The Doors]

Hey Mike, take a look here (http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?threadid=60719) ;)

[FerrariF50]

Doh! at best I could only get it next week....by that time it might be gone...

[The Doors]

Well, why not send a private message to jbslow asking if can wait some days, obviously only if you are interested ;)

[FerrariF50]

another thing..Why does everyone use paypal??

[The Doors]

Really I dunno Mike :confused:

[FerrariF50]

This link helps me out a little...But I want it inside the case and not outside..I think it looks "tacky"



http://www.overclockers.co.nz/ocnz/cooling/peltierheatsink/1.shtml

[FerrariF50]

You can still get condensation from this...I think what i'm going to do is ari cool first then water cool in the summer then stick with the water cooling..

[The Doors]

So you can check the temps with the air cool, and if it not enough, you can go with water cool ;)

[FerrariF50]

yup thats true...and I guess i'm better off upgradeing my power supply as well because I know for sure the one I have now will not power a Amd 2000+ t's only 145 Watts...

[The Doors]

145W???!
well, aren't enough for a Duron too, imagine for an XP+ :eek: absolutly is the way to go ;)

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
145W???!
well, aren't enough for a Duron too, imagine for an XP+ :eek: absolutly is the way to go ;)

lol only if i had enough money for an xp...plus i heard they are harder to unlock and the pencil trick does not work... But Hell anyone moveing from a Intel PII 450 Mhz to a Duron 850Mhz or anything like that.. Lol would be a little while untill I overclock :) I would be loveing that new speed!!

[FerrariF50]

lol there done changeing my Sig around a little

[The Doors]

Well, personally I'll go for a TB1Ghz that OC really well, and cost few $ more, but I understand your poin of view ;)
I'm going to spend a lot of money for the new system, but I've finally got the payment of an old job :D

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Well, personally I'll go for a TB1Ghz that OC really well, and cost few $ more, but I understand your poin of view ;)
I'm going to spend a lot of money for the new system, but I've finally got the payment of an old job :D

well I don't have a credit-card:( I have to wait untill Nov. 27th my birthday!:D And I also have to find a job this summer:) . Then I going to buy that case and all the other stuff I need. Without going into debt.

[The Doors]

Well I don't have a credit-card too Mike,
got some probs in the past :mad: so I prefer to pay like a gangster, cash! :D

P.S. you're sig is much better than before :rolleyes:

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Well I don't have a credit-card too Mike,
got some probs in the past :mad: so I prefer to pay like a gangster, cash! :D

P.S. you're sig is much better than before :rolleyes:


Well I can't pay cash for Internet orders.... and the Compusa Sucks! here I was lucky..Because thats where I got my mobo from....They just now started selling Amd mobo's Only the Older Soyo models..and they have some Amd processors now..

[The Doors]

Well, for me is different, coz I'm a reseller, so I can pay with check or bank credit transfer, probably for you is better ask to your parents to buy with their credit cards.

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Well, for me is different, coz I'm a reseller, so I can pay with check or bank credit transfer, probably for you is better ask to your parents to buy with their credit cards.

I had a hard time just getting my mom to let me get the Duron.. I guess she is ok with it now..But I still perfer to have my own card..

[FerrariF50]

here is a site where I want to get most of my mods

http://www.pcmods.com/

Oh and I'm going to play a little bit of Colin McRae Rally and I will think of some more questions I need to ask so I want have any problems getting the system set up.

[The Doors]

Well, generally the parents continues for all the life to suggest to don't spend the money for this or that coz not really usefull :) but our point of view is a little different :D

[The Doors]

Uhmm...there are really a lot of interesting products :cool: really a cool place!
Ask me everything you want, I hope only to be good enough to give the right support ;) but not now plz, coz I'm going at home of my girlfriend like always during the week-end, see you next week, and have a nice week-end too :beer:

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Well, generally the parents continues for all the life to suggest to don't spend the money for this or that coz not really usefull :) but our point of view is a little different :D

LOL You got that Right!:D :D LOL I wonder what my mom would think if I had a window on the side of my case looking inside..

[FerrariF50]

Originally posted by The Doors
Uhmm...there are really a lot of interesting products :cool: really a cool place!
Ask me everything you want, I hope only to be good enough to give the right support ;) but not now plz, coz I'm going at home of my girlfriend like always during the week-end, see you next week, and have a nice week-end too :beer:

lol ok talk to you later then.;)

[The Doors]

LOL I'm 30 years young and they still continue :eek: we live togheter, or better I stay some days with family and others with my girlfriend :cool: