need NT boot disk

[mcennis3]

I was wondering if anyone could e-mail the 3 boot disks needed to install NT? Thanks.

[zoopa_man]

Check out this web site. I think it's got a downloadable utility that will help you create the three NT boot disks.

http://www.bootdisk.com/

[Bmxpunk86pl]

or use a normal win98 boot disk and in the command prompt type in X:\i386\winnt (replace x with the letter of ur cdrom drive)

[mcennis3]

Thanks! the 98se boot disk fix worked....the freeware site wanted $20 to join...ouch!

[mcennis3]

Maybe someone might have a better solution for me. Is there any way to get 2000 to recognize NT drivers? I can get much of my music software/hardware to work in XP but not my midi interface and there are no plans to develope XP drivers...NT is the last. I can't get it to work with 2000 pro but some people have said that they know people that have done it for 2000/XP but they don't know how. Since I am waiting for NT to setup...I'm not even sure if the NT driver actually work...anyway, thanks for your help.

[COMPUTERMAN]

Windows 2000 boot disk.

Install your Win2000 disc. When it ask you what do you want to do click browse cd. There you will find the folder bootdisk that will give you the disks that you want and the prog to make them.


WINNT BOOT DISK

Get a blank floppy and copy

ntldr
ntdetect.com
boot.ini


COMPUTERMAN

:cool:

[mcennis3]

AAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!!

Ok...thanks for all of your help. I get to a certain part in the installation and it says...
"Setup is unable to locate the hard drive partition prepared by the ms-dos portion of Setup.

When you run the ms-dos Windows NT Setup program, you must specify a temporary drive that is supported by Windows NT."

I first chose to enable large hard drive in fdisk (got above message)...I deleted partition, refdisked and said NOT to enable large hard drive...I made one primary partition and one logical partition (150MB) for the setup files (same Message). What am I doing wrong? Thanks. Also, on one site I read that there is 3rd party software that will allow 98se to run under NTFS but I can't find anything. Is there such an animal?

[turd]

ok from9x or dos just put your NT CD in your CDR and type at the dos prompt:

\i386\winnt /ox

which will prompt you for the 3 floppies tomake your boot disks with

to install NT just make a partition of say 400 megs ( way enough) install it, then install sp6 and then go to your disk manager and expand your NT out to the rest of your disk.

[mcennis3]

Ok....tried it...didn't work...Fdisked a 400 MB active primary partition and still got the same message. During setup, when looking for CDROM, scsi, etc., the only thing it says that it finds is the CDROM...should it say it found the Maxtor hard drive too? Thanks again.

[turd]

no if what i think u are asking is that u are at the detact mass storage device stage should u see other then your cdrom, then dont worry about that, your problem is pretty clear its not detecting your maxtor

do u have like ez bios or something like that overlaying that drive, check out maxiblast from their website and use that to prepare that disk, i think you can get a good install using it, and following the screen instructions for putting down NT

[mcennis3]

I called Maxtor techsupport before trying Maxblast and he said that it did not work for NT...site says it does. I've installed 95/98/98se/2000pro and XP Pro on this PC...NT seems to be the only problem. Maxtor said NOT to fdisk...let NT create partition and format. Changed first boot to CDROM and nothing happened. Tried the NT boot disk (no partition this time) and got the same "cannot find hard disk partition prepared by the MS DOS portion of Setup".

[turd]

what i was getting at is use the maxiblast to take off the EZ bios, overlay that i suspect is on that disk, cause i agree with them that maxiblast does not work with NT even though yes the maxiblast will boot , etc with NT like they missleedingly construesas works with on the site, sounds like u got some good support advice, but he didnt understand the problem

i suspect the reason nt cannot detect that drive is because someone or u used the maxiblast and installed the EZ-bios utility, so just boot into maxiblast, read and follow and disable /remove ez bios
then go into fdisk and delete(if necessary) what is there and then create a partion of the size u want, set it active
then use your boot disks boot into nt and follow the screen and partition/format from nt


good luck

[mcennis3]

Ok...thanks, I'll give it a try. Before I do I have a concern. I tried the Ultimate Boot Disk one time and screwed up the hard drive. I couldn't get it to recognize the 98se boot disk when I tried to reinstall 98se and finally had to pay someone to get me into fdisk again. Is this something I should be concerned about with this 3rd party boot disk?

[turd]

no its not a third party boot disk its a bootable set of utlities made for/from the manafucturer of your drive. just boot into it and check the options, i havent used the maxtor one in a while but it will go something like: check this drive, format this drive, format using EZBIOS, Enable UDMA , remove EZBIOS

again u just want to remove the EBIOS or EZDRIVE or whatever it is on there that . of course that ezbios being on there is just my guess, cause i cant figure what else could be keeping your NT from recognizing that drive,I knowthe ezbios will cause that and u stated all other OS recognized it

also u could have used this set of utilities after ur ultimate boot disk thing to repair that drive cost free, most drive manafactures have utilities specific to thier product available for free download

[mcennis3]

Yea!!!AAAIIIIEEEE(for you Cajuns!)!!!!Shocka Bra (for the Hawaiians!!!)....hope I'm not celebrating too soon but it looks like it is going through the setup. MAXBLAST did not offer those selections that you mentioned...only to install EZBIOS (could that be because there was no EZBIOS already installed?)...anyway, I finally found the fix at the Maxtor site but couldn't have done it without everyone's help. Apparently, that error message happens when you use boot disks formatted by x:\i386\winnt. It needs the ones you suggested using x:\i386\winnt /ox...THANKS!

"Whoever said, 'To err is human'....didn't own a computer"...quote of the day from Tech TV.

errr...I still haven't been able to get my DAL Card D+ soundcard to use IRQ 7 in 98se on my dual boot system (It works on XP partition). It also worked with 98se on my older computer (different MOBO). Is there something in CMOS /BIOS I should be looking at? It works but there is a conflict with my DSL modem assigned to IRQ 10( can only use one or the other)...why would it abled to be assigned to IRQ7 on the XP partition but not on the 98se partition?

[mcennis3]

OK...somebody shoot me please! NT is installed...great...the only reason I'm trying NT is to see if the NT driver (beta) for my OPCODE 8 port se MIDI Interface actually works before installing NT on my "real" PC. errr.....Where is the ADD NEW HARDWARE wizard or ADD/REMOVE NEW HARDWARE in the Control Panel?...or Start>Help? I have installed Service Pack 6. The Opcode connects thru the parallel port. As suggested on GOOGLE, I connected everything, booted, and waited for new hardware Wizard to appear...nothing. Any suggestions? What is VGA mode during bootup?

[mcennis3]

Nevermind...you don't have to shoot. I found instructions on another forum...you have to go into the kind of device you wish to install in control panel. In my case, I opened Multimedia and added new driver. I'll let you know if it works...thanks again.

[mcennis3]

:(
Have I always been an idiot?....no.

Well, I have been on music forums and everyone is talking about hardware incompatiblities with XP...there are alot of NT driver upgrades for deceased manufacturers but no 2000 or XP. Thinking I could dual boot NT and XP in order to use NTFS for a supposedly more stable system I forgot to check something out...
MY MUSIC SOFTWARE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH NT!!!!!! 98/ME/2000/XP yes. Well, this has been a productive week. The Opcode NT drivers did install but it would be a waste to search for NT software since I am sticking with Sonar XL, SonicFoundry, and Vegas. I did learn alot though which perhaps may help someone else.

If I use NTFS for 98se will I run into any kind of conflicts?

[turd]

no, no conflicts, just wont work,

have u tried dual booting and reaching over into your 98 from your nt partition(need sp 5 or above, or some sp past three i think) and running that program, could work , could not

[pacino]

This might be too late but I'm going to mention it anyways for future consideration hehe, popin your winnt CD, @ the cd drive command prompt type winnt /xo .. it'll create you the 3 set NT boot/installation disks :)

[mcennis3]

"NTFS for Windows 98 is a NTFS file system driver for Windows 95 and Windows 98. Once installed, any NTFS drives present on your system will be fully accessible as native Windows 98 volumes. This free version provides read-only capabilities. A read/write version is for sale at Winternals Software. To access NTFS drives from DOS for read/write access, see NTFSDOS Professional"

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/ntfswin98.shtml

Are you saying this type of program would do what I need in order to use NTFS or they just don't work?

Here is something interesting too. After getting the Opcode driver on NT and making the last post I installed 2000 Pro over it with music software...it worked. I then installed XP Pro over 2000...I had to reinstall the opcode driver a few times but it finally worked. I then tried doing the same senerio on my new computer and of course it didn't work. During installation it either says there is something else using that IRQ or there is a BIOS conflict....or the parallel port and IRQ don't match. This is an ABIT VH6-T mobo. I have the Card D+ audiocard in the ISA slot, a DSL PCI modem, a PCI controller card for ata 133 hard drive, and a PCI Video card installed...even when I uninstalled the CARD D+ driver I still got the same message on the OPCODE midi interface for default IRQ 7 on the abit board. I deleted opcode/card d+ drivers and assigned card d+ to NO IRQ...it worked. I then tried to install Opcode to IRQ 7..."There is not IRQ 7 (or something similar)...bios conflict".
It seems like I had all of the hardware using their defaults in my old 150mhz PC which means the Card d+ would be sharing IRQ 7 with Opcode. If anything, I may have had the Card D+ share IRQ 10 with the DSL modem. I have the latest BIOS on ABIT mobo. Does this give anyone any clues? Thanks

[turd]

have you, can you, reserve the isa assigned irq in the bios

also dont know about that winternals stuff even though I have it
i have never tried it for that, they do make a qualty ntfs product and i do doubt that they do what they say(in most cases)
, it seems like you are going about this the right way trying everything

what i ment is that u cannot format a drive ntfs and put windows 98 on it as far as i know. also u could look at VMWARE which would load your win 98 in to a virtual disk(reserverd memory) and would hook to your NT hardware and run your win 98( and possibly) that program.

i have ran programs installed on a visable dualboot 98 partition from the booted NT partition, to get around a conflict, but just mostly use 2k. although i do now have nt on a box that i use as a router.

[mcennis3]

I can change the IRQ with SoftMenu but I don't seem to be doing it correctly or the hardware is limited to what IRQ it excepts. I tried to change the settings on the Parallel port for the OPCODE midi interface but the NT driver does give me the option to switch, perhaps the 98 driver does but since it doesn't work for NT/XP it wouldn't matter. I had tried changing the IRQ on the 98se partition to get the DSL modem working but either did it incorrectly or it just didn't recognize it. I'll try again tomorrow...thanks

[turd]

check your jumpers on the card itself, also try disable your irq in the bios for your serial buses if you are not using them, this should free you up some

[mcennis3]

ftp://66.40.22.130/download/manual/english/vh6t.pdf

Above is the mobo VH6-T manual. Page 54 (thumbnails) talks abou reassigning PCI IRQ's. My soundcard is the ISA but I can't find anything about changing it's IRQ. No jumpers on the DSL PCI modem. I will try to free up more IRQs as suggested but I'm not sure that is the fix. If I try to assign different IRQ to any of these...soundcard, modem, midi interface...even if only one is installed, it only recognizes the default driver in 98se.
I found a fix for SB at the modem site but I can't find out how to actually make the change on mobo.
1.Find Plug N Play in hyour BIOS and change it from AUTO to Manual.
2.Locate the settings for the ISA slot that the Legacy ISA card is installed into and specify a different IRQ to that slot...I can't find anything that specifies ISA IRQ.
Eventually I'll get this. If I pulled everything out of the mobo is there a certain slot that they should be reinstalled? 1.Soundcard (only goes in the one ISA) 2. PCI video card 3. PCI DSL modem 4. Controller card for ATA 133 Hard drive.
IRQ 0 System timer OK
IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK
IRQ 3 Communications Port (COM2) OK
IRQ 4 Communications Port (COM1) OK
IRQ 5 NVIDIA Vanta/Vanta LT OK
IRQ 6 Standard floppy disk controller OK
IRQ 7 CardD32 OK
IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK
IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK
IRQ 10 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller OK
IRQ 10 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller OK
IRQ 10 SpeedStream 3060 Miniport ATM/ADSL Adapter OK
IRQ 11 Avance AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller OK
IRQ 11 WinXP Promise Ultra133 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller OK
IRQ 12 PS/2 Compatible Mouse OK
IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
IRQ 14 Primary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 15 Secondary IDE Channel OK
This is in XP...the Opcode midi interface is not here. On the 98se partition the Opcode is IRQ 7, Card D+ is IRQ 10 and theDSL modem is not connected (IRQ conflict).again, for some reason Card D+ is not working when assigned to IRQ7, even if Opcode is not using it.

[turd]

are there no jumpers on your isa sound card?

[mcennis3]

thought you were asking about the dsl modem. There is one on the soundcard but I have already tried switching it and using every combination of IRQ/DMA. I'm about to try NT on the new PC again.

[mcennis3]

Well...I deleted everything...clean hard drive. I first installed NT and installed the drivers, upgraded to 2000, then to XP (NTFS) and everything was recognized, DSL on irq10, Opcode midi interface on 7, and Card D+ on NONE (don't have that option with 98se driver). I also changed dsl, video, and controller cards to different PCI slots. However, there is latency when playing midi files. It lags at the beginning of some measures. One site said that NTFS was not suited for recording and this may be the results. Also, according to the software manufactures, it could be the midi interface driver. I'm now checking to see if there are tweaks in the software that may solve this problem (adjust buffers, etc.)...if not, I will reinstall everything using FAT32 before going back to the original config.
The system also lags when downloading files from floppy and other drives. Since I couldn't get everything to work using a clean installation of XP this may be my only option.
I will make a new post for this next question (I'm using Partition Magic), can a logical partition with just program and music data be recognized by both 98se and NTFS primary partitions? If a file is edited (i.e., adding effects to a .wav) using XP (NTFS) can it also be edited in 98se (FAT32) as long as it resides on the logical partition? Obviously couldn't get this far without the help with NT
Thanks again...