Good MMO, Replacement of Diablo 2 LOD, Diablo 3 "BEWARE FOUL DEMONS AND BEAST"

[Chase007]

Hey Every one, So as many of you do not know, I'm almost 18...My brother started playing Diablo (Org) when he was 16,I was 11 I always sat around his alienware(Lol) computer watching him play but I couldn't :(.. So when my bro turned 18, And I was 13. He moved away and stopped playing. I stole the game :attn: and startted playing. I already knew every thing I need to jump right it and get on level and getting items. After 10 12 hours a day on week days to 18 hours a day on week ends I started getting good..Really good, Once I was 16 I was really good. I started getting into clans, then I started getting into tournments. Taking spot 376 For close on east..And taking 8world spot for open hacked duels for east. for top Diablo player, Staying up late, playing with friends having a good time. I left Diablo 2 Lod earlyer last year because it wasted my life...I think i had 486 days on Diablo 2 playing time LoL...So I moved to FPS because I couldn't play a FPS for 15 18 hours straight...Now I'm really Missing a MMORPG. I'm really looking into WOW, But the 15$month fee really put me in a step back. I'm looking for a nice MMORPG, Untill Diablo 3:eek: Comes out.. Nothing free like runescape, Some thing that is online and is decent and will waste hours of my life playing..Lol Now writing this book I'm going to publish it.

[shard]

Check the old favorites like Guild Wars, no monthly fee and really good gameplay. If you are more inclined to Diablo style then roll with Titan's Quest, or maybe even Sacred 2. Mind you WoW is a really good MMO, but it tends to eat your life and take no mercy. So it is ok if you dont want to deal with the 15$ a month ;)

[Chase007]

Check the old favorites like Guild Wars, no monthly fee and really good gameplay. If you are more inclined to Diablo style then roll with Titan's Quest, or maybe even Sacred 2. Mind you WoW is a really good MMO, but it tends to eat your life and take no mercy. So it is ok if you dont want to deal with the 15$ a month ;)

I had Titans quest back in the day, I did a small lan party with it.. Didn't buy it..Due to money issues THQ had to shut down and stops all the private severs.. I'm really looking for something new Titans quest is to much like Diablo and lacks many aspects of the game...I might as well pop D2 cd back in and reinstall it..My friend reconmend guild wars to me but it looks like theres alot of versions for it and im unsure on which one to choose....My Bro played WoW for a month and he said it takes alot of time to get good...I'm not looking to get hooked hard again like back in the day just something else instead of Fps all the time...Like the hole magic stuff really takes my breath away :D I was looking into the Final Fansty, but im unsure.

[shard]

Just a heads up, talk of Piracy here is against the rules. So in your best interest edit your post about that part.

Final Fantasy 11 is 100% grind, just like most of your other korean and japanese MMORPGs. I would definitely reccomend guild wars if you are definitely looking into a MMO and on a budget.

[Enablingwolf]

Most MMO are grind in some form or another. :D
FF are a lot of futzing from one part of the world to another part - grinds. Walk here.. Teleport there.. Get on a ship to get to another part.. Rinse and repeat for 100 or more hours..
Guild Wars is a good value in terms of online play. You can get it rather inexpensive at most large retail stores and that is the only cost for the most part. Since the server for the play is free. Plus there is a few expansions for it. That means you can extend the game play some. If you like it enough, to drop some more dough into it. I heard the quests are not that bad.

There is some cheezy free MMO's out there. But the catch is usually. You have to buy some items from a (game online) store to get the best gear setups. Plus you run into a lower quality of player too. Another thing is flaky servers.
One example is Conqueror Online. The parent game house has a few free online MMO games. The premise is you buy a special item from them for powering up or making the best gear. In context of the mentioned game. It is Dragon Balls. Which you buy in packs for real money to use in game.

[Kampfzerstorer]

Check out Savage 2. Its not exactly MMORPG, but I don't feel that Diablo was either. Its good PvP/RPGish/Strategy team fun with up to 40 people in a server.

Edit: Oh and its free!


Demigod is also moderately fun.

[ziggo0]

I'm sure if you spent a couple weeks to a month on random free korean grind mmo's, diablo 3 will be out in no time.

[Aztroth]

I'm sure if you spent a couple weeks to a month on random free korean grind mmo's, diablo 3 will be out in no time.

did someone say MU Online?

[Chase007]

I don't mind paying 50$ for a good game but I don't want to pay a monthly fee thats just dumb when its 15$ a month for 6 months.. 150$ for a game?? Serious??...Seems like every one likes guild wars, what version do you guys reconmend..I see it at my local best buy store

[JonSimonzi]

Yes, it's $15 a month, but if you're a D2 fan, you're not going to get better than WoW. Hate to say it :(

[SuperMiguel]

WOW is good

[Chase007]

WOW is good

Yeah but I hurd WoW was a complete grind, I just want something a few 3-4 hours a day I don't want to pop in 40 hours a week then d3 comes out...Just some thing that will keep me busy for a month or too untill d3 comes closer, wow is ok but its thousands of hours of repeated tasks.....Whats a good guild wars to buy?

[Kenshiro]

Yes, guild wars is good because it is free online. Techincally, the server is only "in town". Once you get outside of town, you are not really playing in their server. You won't meet other players outside of town, unless you have group together before you leave town.

WOW may sound expensive for $15 a month. Since it eats your life away, you won't be playing other games at all, and therefore you will not spend money on other games. Techincally, it is cheaper for gaming budget (year round) if you just play WOW.

[Chase007]

Yes, guild wars is good because it is free online. Techincally, the server is only "in town". Once you get outside of town, you are not really playing in their server. You won't meet other players outside of town, unless you have group together before you leave town.

WOW may sound expensive for $15 a month. Since it eats your life away, you won't be playing other games at all, and therefore you will not spend money on other games. Techincally, it is cheaper for gaming budget (year round) if you just play WOW.

Yeah What About WoW 3??? Does any one still play that??? Is it worth picking that it up?? I use see people on it back when I had d2...See theres no good MMORPGS any more that are like d2. With out spending countless hours doing dumb crap.. With 100$ you can get a fully 90lvl charactered geared up with good stuff in diablo....Even though you can get to 1-80 in diablo in 3 hours if you know how to do it correct..

[SuperMiguel]

u can play wow 3-4h a day... thats alot imo but u can do it

[Kenshiro]

actually, i heard on average, people play about 5 hours a day. That's how long a raid takes.

[don'tknow]

Savage 2 is really good, try it no matter what. http://savage2.com/en/main.php

Free game, only 1GB download and then there's a few patches. Onetime $10 fee for a premium account to unlock all features. There is no other game like it, can't put it in a single genre. It is mixed RTS/Action/FPS online competitive game (not MMO, it's played by matches) and you can choose which style you want to play. Just beware it is much more player skill based than gear/level based, unlike mmo's/most rpg's. There is no real grinding either, but there are items and levels you can gain overtime in a match by just doing what your class does (you get exp/gold for damage, killing blows, healing, building damage, repairing and other things).

I played WoW for 4 years and got sick of it, too much repetitive grinding and too much messing with/ruining class balance with every single damn patch. Do not bother with FF11; it's the slowest, most tedious grind, played it for 2 years and got sick of it as well. And way too many emos/manipulative asskissers/loot greedy people that ruin most guilds, which ruins gaming experience in an MMO more than other types of games since they're very guild based.

[Chase007]

actually, i heard on average, people play about 5 hours a day. That's how long a raid takes.

What Do you mean a raid????....ARG D3 just come out already :( I'm just looking for something alittle different I could pop back on Diablo and in a week I'v done it all and have all good items again....

What about war hammer??
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/warhammeronline/index.html

I think you pay for war hammer too


What about shadowbane
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/warhammeronline/index.html

[SuperMiguel]

What Do you mean a raid????....ARG D3 just come out already :( I'm just looking for something alittle different I could pop back on Diablo and in a week I'v done it all and have all good items again....

What about war hammer??
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/warhammeronline/index.html

try wow :)

[Kenshiro]

Well, once you max out your character, you typically join a clan. A raid is like you try to "invade" a cave... or something, and kill the final big boss. These raids are not meant for solo play. You have to go in as a team. You will have a mixture of healers, tanks, damage dealers.... etc.

[Chase007]

Well, once you max out your character, you typically join a clan. A raid is like you try to "invade" a cave... or something, and kill the final big boss. These raids are not meant for solo play. You have to go in as a team. You will have a mixture of healers, tanks, damage dealers.... etc.

Lol like the WOW south park epsoide when they had a lan party and used mics...Lol that was funny. I dunno I'm really thinking about picking up WoW, but im unsure my bro played it. He said it got boring with all the work he put into it and he didn't get any far

Isnt the king of linch you have to pay what about the burning crusade you still pay for that too?

[SuperMiguel]

ya u do but u just pay $20 for the first version... when u get to lvl 60 then u buy bc

[Chase007]

ya u do but u just pay $20 for the first version... when u get to lvl 60 then u buy bc

Ok so World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King....Get that

What about war Hammer?? I hurd that is pretty good what is the monthly fee on that??

[SuperMiguel]

Ok so World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King....Get that

What about war Hammer?? I hurd that is pretty good what is the monthly fee on that??

no... just get the 1st version. lich is the 3rd one

[shard]

Try downloading the trial version first, to see if you like that kind of gameplay. It allows you to get to at least lvl 20 and try a few things out.

Also for Wow, if you do so choose to buy it.

World of Warcraft the game is about 20 bucks. You need that first, that is the base game.

Next you need WoW: The Burning Crusade. That is the first expansion pack. You need that to get to lvl 70, and access the extra races like Blood Elf and Draenei.

And finally WoW: Wrath of the Lich King. That is the newest expansion pack. You need it to get to Lvl 80, and play DeathKnights. This expansion pack is not really needed until you really get into the game.

If you go and purchase the WoW battle chest, which has the first game and burning crusade, that should definitely get you going if you do end up liking the trial.

A big thing for you, since you obviously love playing Diablo 2, and looking forward to Diablo 3. Grinding is not really an issue. Even better majority of your playing and lvling up will be doing quests that are some of the best quests out there in any MMO. The grinding only gets tedious when you are max lvl (lvl80) and doing raids or farming for materials for crafting. Raiding is usually when you team up with 10 or 25 people to take on dungeons and bosses that you normally could not kill yourself or just a few friends.

As far as Warhammer online, it is interesting but I found it rather boring. But just like any other MMO out there it is different in it's own right. It focuses more on Player Versus Player combat then Player versus enemy combat wich dominates most of WoW (Mind you WoW has it's fair share of hardcore PvP play.)

Other games like Age of Conan, Everquest 2, Vanguard, etc. All have their merits and their drawbacks. By doing a little research and reading on their respective forums you can get a good idea on the pros and cons of each game.

I personally Reccommend WoW. 15$ a month is really not as bad as you think, and as was mentioned earlier you really wont be playing that much else when you are playing WoW.

But as I said, try the trial and see if that is what you are looking for.

[don'tknow]

Ok so World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King....Get that

What about war Hammer?? I hurd that is pretty good what is the monthly fee on that??

Read my post above about Savage 2. It's FREE so you can try it regardless.

There, a big "FREE" sign might be more noticeable. :/

[Chase007]

Read my post above about Savage 2. It's FREE so you can try it regardless.

There, a big "FREE" sign might be more noticeable. :/

free MMORPGS remind me of rune scape and crappy graphics...I have a bunch of free trials of WOW with all my games im going to use one..If I like it then I guess i'l buy it 15$ isn't that much. Just have to cut out "Green" and alcohol once a month :(.....Lots of replys Made a video adding a pannel for the antec 1200 :) Posting on you tube

[jediobi1]

did someone say MU Online?

man i loved that game i used to know almost everything about even things i cant say here ;) i played that game so much i miss it

[Kampfzerstorer]

Savage 2 is really good, try it no matter what. http://savage2.com/en/main.php

Free game, only 1GB download and then there's a few patches. Onetime $10 fee for a premium account to unlock all features. There is no other game like it, can't put it in a single genre. It is mixed RTS/Action/FPS online competitive game (not MMO, it's played by matches) and you can choose which style you want to play. Just beware it is much more player skill based than gear/level based, unlike mmo's/most rpg's. There is no real grinding either, but there are items and levels you can gain overtime in a match by just doing what your class does (you get exp/gold for damage, killing blows, healing, building damage, repairing and other things).

I played WoW for 4 years and got sick of it, too much repetitive grinding and too much messing with/ruining class balance with every single damn patch. Do not bother with FF11; it's the slowest, most tedious grind, played it for 2 years and got sick of it as well. And way too many emos/manipulative asskissers/loot greedy people that ruin most guilds, which ruins gaming experience in an MMO more than other types of games since they're very guild based.

Everyone seems to be ignoring our suggestions :confused:

Try Savage 2!

[SuperMiguel]

mU man i loved that game i used to know almost everything about even things i cant say here ;) i played that game so much i miss it

thats oldd :) i played that game like crazy :)

[SuperMiguel]

Everyone seems to be ignoring our suggestions :confused:

Try Savage 2!

Try wow:P

[Knight3539]

I think you should try Chronicles of Spellborn:

http://spellborn.acclaim.com/

It's currently in Open Beta, and it has a very different combat system. No targeting, then cycling through number keys. You have what's called a skill deck, and you have the ability to dodge, and your reticule has to be ON your target to hit it. I've been playing for a few weeks, and I really enjoy it.

UPDATE: Actually, I just saw that it was officially released yesterday.

[Pandam00nium]

First off, I'll go on a bit of a rant due to always seeing complaints about monthly fees.

For one thing $15 isn't much for a month worth of entertainment. I mean do you people who complain about these things ever go to a movie theather and pay $8-10 for a 2-3 hour movie? or back in the days ever rented video games/videos from blockbuster for $5 just for a couple days or a week? Unlike these things p2p MMORPGs actually can provide you with weeks of entertainment rather than something that can last a few hours or a week at most before having to pay again.

The thing is that once you actually find one that you will really enjoy, you'll most likely end up playing it more often than any other game. I've spent about 4 years playing FFXI and paid $15 a month for the game. That adds up to around $180 per year. Yet when I was a console gamer / non-mmog gamer I would buy a new game or two every couple months which can easily add up to around $200-400 per year.

So all this complaining about monthly fees don't get to me when people are willing to shell out $60 for a "next-gen" game that'll rarely be played more than a couple months. Most games coming out these days aren't that great or don't have much replay value. Although there are always a few gems that could last much longer.

Anyways~ All MMORPGs are a grind. They just come in different ways. Grinding in WoW is not much different than FFXI, Aion, WAR, AoC, or your typical free to play Korean grinder.

In WoW you grind based on quests, which the majority of them deal with kill x amount of mobs to gather x amount of items to return it back to the specific NPC. In the end all you're doing is running around killing mobs and wasting months just to max out your character.

I'll go through a few games I've been through to let you know how it is.

World of Warcraft: I spent a few months playing WoW, and to be honest I didn't see what was so great about it. It's good for casual players cause it's not as big of a grind as other MMOGs. Grinds are still grinds though, and if you're looking for something that isn't as hardcore as others are you can probably give it a try. Don't really give into the whole "it'll suck your life away" stuff. Those are just the people who aren't able to control themselves and learn to organize their time accordingly. :P It's a good game to get into if its your first actual MMOG because it's simple and straight forward.

Final Fantasy XI: I'll start off with the bad.. Firstly the game is greatly held back due to the cross platform option. It's available on the PC, PS2, and Xbox360. It's nice that all 3 systems can play with one another, but due to the "ps2 limitations" there is so much that can't be done to continue improving the game. I think it's the biggest downfall of FFXI.

The game lacks armor diversity. You'll end up seeing everyone wearing the same thing on the jobs you play towards the end of the game. You'll also see many people looking exactly like your character model due to a limited character customization feature.

Another thing you may have to remember is that this game is very party oriented. SE has actually made the game a bit more simple over time so it is possible to solo with certain classes, but most of the time you will level up faster in a party. So that means unless you play a class everyone loves or are a very popular person things will start off slow, or remain slow if you play a class that isn't liked much.

Fortunately there was a recent update that allowed level syncing. Which let players that are higher level to sync down to your level to party with and cancel out any EXP penalties for level differences. This is probably one of the biggest things added in the game.

Along with the massive loads of content and great storylines, it can be quite enjoyable once you get into things and meet some friends to play with. The game has been around for over 5 years. So there is a lot to do and many experienced players to help out, but having said that the population isn't as great as it use to be. There are a few packed servers that no longer take new characters, but at the same time there are other servers that don't have half as much as those. I believe the game has around... 200-300k concurrent players.

Ragnarok Online: The game is pretty much all grinding and no story. To me it was a decent time waster cause I met some nice friends and it was nice partying with them and doing castle sieges. Other than that all you'll mostly be doing is killing stuff and occasional PvP in an arena type spot. Private servers are ran much better than official due to Gravity not giving a crap about botters. However I'm sure speaking of that would be forbidden on here so I shall stop. ^^

Lineage 2: Ugh.. Probably one of the worst MMOGs I've ever played. It's nothing but a game to stroke your little e-peen and act tougher than your opponents. It has a horrendous crafting system that is limited only to the dwarf class. No storyline which means you'll be grinding most of the way, a community that's full of idiots. The official servers from what I hear are filled with bots that NCSoft doesn't seem to care about as well.

Aion: I've actually only played the Chinese beta with English translations so far, but I found the game to be quite well made at this point. It's a bit of a mix between WoW gameplay and Eastern style graphics. It's nothing innovative, but I feel they've done a good job on making a solid game that takes the good points of other MMOGs and bunching it all up into a single game.

It's not out over here yet, but it should be released later on in Q4. NCSoft is known for making "korean grinder" type games, but this is far from one. They've tried using Western style influences for more casual gameplay and it seems to be working well at this point. Be sure to look out for it. :)

*huffs and puffs* I'm done. >.>;

[don'tknow]

free MMORPGS remind me of rune scape and crappy graphics...I have a bunch of free trials of WOW with all my games im going to use one..If I like it then I guess i'l buy it 15$ isn't that much. Just have to cut out "Green" and alcohol once a month :(.....Lots of replys Made a video adding a pannel for the antec 1200 :) Posting on you tube

Yep I thought the same thing; 'free games must suck, I shouldn't bother' and that's true for many free games, kind of. But Savage 2 was actually a retail-priced game at release, then recently became free. Many people who play it say how they can't believe that game is free and has so little popularity. Oh and the graphics are very far from bad, in fact they're much better than WoW's if you want to compare to that. As I said before, it's a PC-only game which no console can run at max or medium settings (maybe even low).

It doesn't have a ton of 'story' content, like raiding/dungeons/quests etc., it's made for competitive pvp play which from your first post I thought you'd be interested in that kind of game. While MMORPG's are mostly about grinding levels first by questing and once that's maxed, you grind gear by raiding with many other people, which typically takes place in a 'raiding guild'. Do not expect good PvP in most MMO's, especially not WoW; the game designers constantly ruin class balance every patch and have no idea what good 'pvp' is supposed to be. WoW's pvp used to be fun pre-BC, but after that it was crapped down worse and worse with every patch. Try it though, should be fun at first.

[Tumnus]

First off, I'll go on a bit of a rant due to always seeing complaints about monthly fees.

For one thing $15 isn't much for a month worth of entertainment. I mean do you people who complain about these things ever go to a movie theather and pay $8-10 for a 2-3 hour movie? or back in the days ever rented video games/videos from blockbuster for $5 just for a couple days or a week? Unlike these things p2p MMORPGs actually can provide you with weeks of entertainment rather than something that can last a few hours or a week at most before having to pay again.

The thing is that once you actually find one that you will really enjoy, you'll most likely end up playing it more often than any other game. I've spent about 4 years playing FFXI and paid $15 a month for the game. That adds up to around $180 per year. Yet when I was a console gamer / non-mmog gamer I would buy a new game or two every couple months which can easily add up to around $200-400 per year.


Of course it's not that much money, but it still ****es me off.

I bought WoW on release day. Lately I've been thinking I kind of want to play it again, but I know to do anything I need to pay up 15 bucks. . . But I already bought the damn game.

[Enablingwolf]

. . . But I already bought the damn game.

I know and get your meaning.. But I wanted to be a smarty pants. :)

And you have the physical copy of the game to install it. Containing the models and important files for the game operation. If I recall right The first month is free play or is it 14 days... So you do get part of the purchase price back on the disc. The fun part of that paper weight is online. On the Blizzard golden cow servers. Which is another part of the game. So pull out the wallet and feed gold. Which Blizzard is the biggest gold farmer on the planet.

I played the game a few times. One good bro of mine keeps trying to get me to play. I tell him. You pay for the monthly charges. I will play. Otherwise I will listen to you gripe about that game based soap opera, surrounding the group your in..
Not a bad game, but to get the most out of it. You have to be in some group or another.. I can think of more fun things to pay for.

On past that. One thing that service fee includes. Is monitoring for/deterring cheaters, ability to complain.. and prompt bug fixing. Not that it actually is like that in some bizzaro world.. Or is that a Blizzaro world..

[Springbok]

As much as I'm looking forward to Diablo 3, it's not coming this year, probably not even next year. We first got Starcraft 2 gameplay footage about two years ago, and it's not even on the release horizon.

Get the 15-day WoW trial, but be warned that you can easily put 12+ hours a day into it.

[don'tknow]

Otherwise I will listen to you gripe about that game based soap opera, surrounding the group your in..

^ One of the biggest downfalls of MMO games in general. Too dependent on "huge raids with 20+ people" to do endgame. I've put years of effort along with the other officers/GM to make our guild as drama-free as possible when I played WoW. There is always something or someone with problems or making petty arguements or whatnot.

Or some of the key players needed for doing endgame get in a RL emergency and can't logon for weeks-months. Not much else to do for raiders other than an even more boring grind (reputation with factions) or PvP which is terribly broken. Though we did 'rebuild' the guild like .... I don't know how many times, lost count... with new players who get geared up and eventually also leave... I got effing sick of it.

[JDawggS316]

DC Universe is coming out soon :)

[mbigna]

I don't know how much you would be willing to pay for no monthly fees, but LOTRO has an option for a lifetime subscription for $300. When I purchased the lifetime subscription at launch, I got it for $200 because I was a beta tester. They might lower the lifetime subscription price from time to time as well to entice more people to sign up. But if you play MMO's long term, this could be an option for you.

Keep in mind 12 months X $15 / month = $180 / year.

[cornbread]

I just received the beta key for freerealms.com, its a decent mmo, it's free, but I didn't try it for long, only downfall I found with it is that it seemed very "childish" (no more than WoW though), although again I didn't try it for long.

It has a lot of side games, control is great, graphics look good. Install is fast and mostly on server side, so not much to install on your computer.

http://www.freerealms.com/index.vm?gclid=CPew1YTgjZoCFRIeDQodxkmLFw

[cornbread]

One more thing, a lot of folks are suggesting WoW, if your brand new to it the first few levels will suck, because not many people at all are in the starting areas anymore, so the "grind" at first will suck.

Second, keyloggers are running rampant on WoW (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11112&sid=1), not really blizz's fault, but make sure you have a very secure computer and don't click on emails that claim to be from blizz.

And although I'm now a Wow player anymore, blizz customer service sucks, again you can see that for yourself by clicking the link provided.

This is just my opinion, i know a lot of wow players will disagree, but I'm just speaking from my experiences.

[shard]

One more thing, a lot of folks are suggesting WoW, if your brand new to it the first few levels will suck, because not many people at all are in the starting areas anymore, so the "grind" at first will suck.

Second, keyloggers are running rampant on WoW (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11112&sid=1), not really blizz's fault, but make sure you have a very secure computer and don't click on emails that claim to be from blizz.

And although I'm now a Wow player anymore, blizz customer service sucks, again you can see that for yourself by clicking the link provided.

This is just my opinion, i know a lot of wow players will disagree, but I'm just speaking from my experiences.


As for their customer service. As an all encompassing thing, yeah they tend to suck. But bear in mind that with just 6million+ US subscribers your service gets stretched VERY thin. Not to mention that in general problems that you generally run into can range from thousands of different issues and conflicts.

But beyond that, they do try to have decent community support and interaction. Just dont expect in-depth and personalized support. Way way too many subs to make a meaningful effort in that regard.

[Enablingwolf]

As for their customer service. As an all encompassing thing, yeah they tend to suck. But bear in mind that with just 6million+ US subscribers your service gets stretched VERY thin. Not to mention that in general problems that you generally run into can range from thousands of different issues and conflicts.

But beyond that, they do try to have decent community support and interaction. Just dont expect in-depth and personalized support. Way way too many subs to make a meaningful effort in that regard.

Long as they provide properly tested frequent patches and fix bugs.. They are like most other high traffic support entities. Hard to get excellent support.. You just get mundane help.

One cool thing Blizzard did do. Was patch out Diablo2 so you do not need the CD anymore to play Diablo2. Nice thing to do for the customers. So that is a perk in the support of the game for customers.

EA is the benchmark for sucky support.

[Kenshiro]

http://www.perfectworld.com/ad

anyone try this game? It claim it is free.... but i'm not sure.

[Wickedbear]

FFXI is an amazing game, but not for the weak. If you don't enjoy leveling for hours on end, you won't like FFXI. They have "toned" it down, as its not so utterly brutal on new people, and getting around. You can get from any town to any town in 2-4 minutes now if you're fast enough. Leveling used to be exponential, that was turned down, and a large number of classes have been buffed. RMT are virtually gone as well.

[Nuerotik]

Guil d wars is a good one, i saw you were questioning WOW it is an awesome game ya paying for it sucks but its worth it to me at least, good luck