2 New OCZ SSD's! - Vertex EX SSD & OCZ Z-Drive SSD (PCI-E)

[AnExile]

It looks like OCZ has put up two new SSD drives on their website. The OCZ Vertex EX Series and a OCZ Z-Drive.


First, a New OCZ Vertex "EX" Series. (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/flash_drives/ocz_vertex_ex_series_sata_ii_2_5-ssd) Looks like the speeds are now up 260Mb/s Read and 200Mb/s Write.

I read the press release and the product description and besides offering higher speeds, can't find much more info.


I'm assuming it's the same Indilinx controller? Anybody know?



Second, they now have a PCI-E SSD called the "OCZ Z-Drive" (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/flash_drives/ocz_z_drive_pci_express_ssd). Looks like the they are offering capacities up to 1TB and speeds rated at "500 MB/s Read and 470MB/s Write".

Anybody know what controller this new Z-Drive is using as well? Indilinx or maybe Samsung?


I won't give up a PCI-E slot just for one drive (even if it's 1TB and those fast speeds because in reality, I can at minimum double (most likely triple) them with my RAID cards using SATA II SSD's in a RAID Array).


So, anybody know anything I don't? It wonder if the Vertex EX (and the Z-Drive) will have all the same updated firmware as the current Vertex line. I would assume it would because nobody is going to live without trim/discard now that know they have to have it (via some form).


I thought the OCZ Summit's (with the Samsung controller) were due next to be released but maybe they have pushed them back until they iron out all their firmware issues. All online articles written about the Summit's that had an expected release date have already passed.

Anybody know the real release date and the MSRP of the OCZ Summit's?

[Shiggity]

All the new vertexes use the indilinx controller the last time I checked, the EX is a tad more optimized than previous versions.

The Summit uses the new samsung controller.

I believe the 1TB PCI-E SSD will use multiple samsung controllers and SLC memory. (This will cost too much for home use, I'm thinking these are going to start at 2500$ minimum.)


New controllers and new SSD's are coming out so fast it's hard to keep track. Not to mention OCZ changes their SSD lineup every week.

[tom10167]

ffs enough models already OCZ???

[pik4chu]

ffs enough models already OCZ???

they gotta keep doing it until they get it done right and done cheaper :)

[zbo]

I was going to get a vertex, now there are the vertex ex. I think im going to wait a while 6 mounths before I move to SSD now.

[AnExile]

I was going to get a vertex, now there are the vertex ex. I think im going to wait a while 6 mounths before I move to SSD now.

Exactly my thoughts. I can't stand that every week either OCZ or another manufacture is coming out with better SSD's. Regardless of the price because they always drop when a new line arrives, it just doesn't make sense to buy ANY right now (including Intel). They are still working out all the bells and whistles and why should we bother investing our money into products that change on a monthly basis. It's not like they are offering us any great deals to test these products and let us give them feedback (with the exception of OCZ, but we are still be deceived by even them (now with the Vertex EX) and soon with the Summit's).

On top of that, when features like trim/discard are not available on every SSD yet and Windows 7 Final Release isn't out supporting SSD's it just feels like were wasting our time and $$$ being Guinea Pigs.

Even the Intel's (the best of the best, but for ONLY RIGHT NOW) aren't ready yet even though they just had a release for the X25-M, they are still in the early stages. It's just the beginning and I don't want to sucked into any products that haven't been tested fully and on the market with a decent track record. I think by the end of the year, things should come together including full O/S support.

The hell with them, I'm going to keep purchasing platter drives till they are ready.

[MongGrel]

Yeah I'm just sitting back myself and kinda watching how the SSD's develope over time myself before I dive in that pool yet , hehe.

:beer:

I really dont know if you'd double or triple that Z speed in a RAID array though to be honest, you'd top out first I'd imagine.

For a real fast 1TB not bad, is it really that big? Not that I'm interested in that one :P

Heh, I guess it is, have to read that more for grins and giggles :) The 4 RE3's in here do 400 transfer non stop all ready and hold 4 TB with an Areca 1210.

[AnExile]

I really dont know if you'd double or triple that Z speed in a RAID array though to be honest, you'd top out first I'd imagine.




I already have doubled it. I have an Adaptec 5445 card (Intel IOP348 Dual 1.2Ghz w/ 512 cache) and using just standard SATA II drives, I've already hit over 1000Mb/sec. I haven't posted the results because next week more new drives are coming to complete it's RAID 0 array.

Once they arrive and are installed, I'll post the results for everybody to review and comment.

[Blazing fire]

All the new vertexes use the indilinx controller the last time I checked, the EX is a tad more optimized than previous versions.

The Summit uses the new samsung controller.

I believe the 1TB PCI-E SSD will use multiple samsung controllers and SLC memory. (This will cost too much for home use, I'm thinking these are going to start at 2500$ minimum.)


New controllers and new SSD's are coming out so fast it's hard to keep track. Not to mention OCZ changes their SSD lineup every week.

I think that's a good thing! :santa: SSDs have lots of potential yet to be explored IMO.

[Shiggity]

I already have doubled it. I have an Adaptec 5445 card (Intel IOP348 Dual 1.2Ghz w/ 512 cache) and using just standard SATA II drives, I've already hit over 1000Mb/sec. I haven't posted the results because next week more new drives are coming to complete it's RAID 0 array.

Once they arrive and are installed, I'll post the results for everybody to review and comment.

This is how you're supposed to use those 1TB PCI-E SSD's.

Flynn was formerly the chief architect at Linux Networx, and says that his experience in HPC has led him to conclude that "balanced systems lead to cost effective throughput." Fusion-io's device connects to the PCI Express bus, and Flynn conceptualizes the flash memory as sitting between memory and disk, relieving the performance pressure on both, and creating a new first-class participant in the data flow hierarchy.


"You can put 15 Fusion-io cards in a commodity server and get 10 GB/s of throughput from a 10 TB flash pool with over one million IOPS of performance," says Flynn. How does this matter? He gave NASTRAN as a customer example, in which jobs that took three days to run would complete in six hours on the same system and with no change in the application after the installation of the flash device.
http://www.hpcwire.com/features/Solid-State-Drives-Change-in-a-Flash-41945232.html?viewAll=y


:)

[Aslan]

I was going to get a vertex, now there are the vertex ex. I think im going to wait a while 6 mounths before I move to SSD now.

Same, unless I can somehow get a 60gb SSD with performance similar or better to Vertex for $120 or less very soon. Of course I completely doubt that this will happen, but one can hope. :rolleyes:

[MongGrel]

Very interesting all of it, and one of the reasons I like cruising around here :)

OC Forums FTW :)

[MadMan007]

I'm waiting until I can get a 250GB SSD for $250 or less. That's still kind of pricey $/gb but it's not much worse than a V-raptor either. I figure by that time the controllers will be sorted out and kicking too.

[calaveraOC]

I was about to pull the trigger on a vertex 60g.. but looks like I'm going to wait. that is, hopefully I can hold myself back from buying one.

[Know Nuttin]

I keep hearing how the Indilinx is expensive and that's why it's expensive for the Vertex but yet, the price difference between an apex and a vertex (comparing 60GB) is only $25 USD? and the extra SSD + RAID controller in the Apex is only worth $15 more compared to solid?
I'd like to see SSD's come down to about $1.00-$1.50/GB, that would make it very interesting.

[tom10167]

I'm waiting until I can get a 250GB SSD for $250 or less..

I'll say two years.

[Shiggity]

Has anyone heard if Intel is working on another controller?

[Codeman05]

man, glad I saw this, was about to get a couple of drives for my games. I think I'll wait now just to see what the EX series prices at and if it lowers the standard Vertex any.

FWIW, I have a vertex in my laptop and one in my main rig as an O/S drive...the vertex is simply obscene, the performance difference from a raid 0 with Velociraptors really blew me away.


Pretty cool to see how quickly SSD tech is advancing these last few months.