Team Centipede

[BigBlockk]

I see someone has started Team Centipede. Well, you beat me by 24 hours. I was going to call it simply Centipede but when I saw Team Centipede jump up there last night I changed the name on my wifes K6-2 500 to match.

I then real quick pulled another K6-2 500 out of retirement and now have it folding for Team Centipede.

I also have two Celerons (a 366 and a 466) that will be running for Team Centipede as soon as I get cases and modems for then.

Ya'll folks that got the older machines with 500MHz or less, come join us.

Team Centipede

BigBlockk

Later.....

[Kendan]

You can do what you want but it has already been put to a poll. Yatta won. I know that you do not like the name but the idea behind the slow team is to try and compete with the big hitters on our team and this will not be easy even without you trying to recruit for another slow team. This is not meant to be a flame just that if the slow team is going to be succesfull we need all the slow computers on one team not spread out among a few. I am asking you to put your slow computers under the name Yatta. It is for the good of the whole team. Thank you for your time. Fold on!!!


Edit: Spelling correction.

[nil_esh]

Yeah, I liked the name Centipede much better.. but, I'll fold for Yatta because the whole concept of the slow team is more important than the name..

[BigBlockk]

Number 1: In my original post I never said anything about any other team. I simply invited anyone who has an older, slower machine to come to Team Centipede. All are welcome.

Number 2: I didn't start Team Centipede. I was going to start "Centipede", however I saw the name "Team Centipede" pop up on the Team 32 member list so I changed to that name to keep from confusing everyone.

Number 3: I happen to think that the name "Centipede " has more meaning to this whole project than some other names that have been put forth.

Number 4: Despite the best efforts of Bill and Hiliary Clinton, this is still a free country.

Again, I invite all to come to Team Centipede.

Many small engines.....Team Centipede.

BigBlockk

Later.....

[Kendan]

If you do not want to support the slow team that is fine. In the first sentence of my reply to you I stated that you could do what you want so this in not infringing on your freedom in any way. All I was trying to say which you obviously overlooked is that if the slow team is going to compete against the big guns on our team all the slow computers need to be united under one team name. not spread out among a few. If you have an idea about how spreading them out will be better for the team let us know. This is a team after all and all voices are heard. I believe that one team of slow computers is better for the team because as Yatta works its way up in the ranks it will prompt people to stay ahead of it. Sorry for the rant.

[BigBlockk]

The only thing I can tell you is if it wasn't for Team Centipede I would not have this second K6-2 500 folding right now. The simple fact is that I wasn't going to fold for Yatta. Sorry. Because of Team Centipede I am putting out more work.

In the long run I think it will work out for the better. Nothing like a good scrap between slow teams and if it gooses people up to try to stay ahead of us, so much the better.

By the way I would like to thank whomever it was that started Team Centipede for giving my slow machines a place to call home.

Many small engines.....Team Centipede.

BigBlockk

Later.....

[Ploaf]

Originally posted by BigBlockk

In the long run I think it will work out for the better. Nothing like a good scrap between slow teams and if it gooses people up to try to stay ahead of us, so much the better.



I couldn't help thinking the same thing even if you will lose the force of one big team. I think that 30 celeries can out gun everything I have laying around. You may have trouble with Ferris or Lews though. :) I have a box(Celery433(not 466 like I originally though)) on Yatta because I didn't realize that a team Centipede(Which is what I voted for. I have to like it) had been started. Now I am torn. Oh well. Since I set up the box for Yatta it will stay there as I don't have access to it every day.

Time for a little competition.

Cry Yatta! and let slip the Centipedes of war. (I'm still not getting any better at that)

HAHAHA.

[S_Wilson]

I think it's great that someone took this initiative. Now more people are pleased and are participating because of a meaningful name.

Maybe it does not follow the original plan but it adds a new dimension to the slow folding realm. A little competition couldn't hurt and it all adds to Overclockers team total.

Once I have the time to dig some of my old rigs out of storage, I will join the fray. Also no cheating guys, don't accidentally drop the last digit off that shiny new XP. :)

[SpeeDj]

My only thoughts on this are why did you even bother to ask for a poll if when it came right down to it you were going to do what you wanted anyway, that is a low blow it was put to a vote the majority voted for a name that does have meaning to them and is unique for the forums as a whole and would spur some interest. The majority put it to a vote why now do you feel the need to negate the purpose of a slow team. This team has always had a greatly cohesive purpose, I think by having multiple teams all you are accomplishing is driving out teamwork and bringing in bickering and taking the unity out of it. The attitude of I am either folding for Team Centipede or this 500 isn't folding is pretty petty. Now you are making people who did not vote for what you thought should win take sides and either side with you or against you. I say perhaps the dedication to what the slow team really meant should be pondered a bit more. It was to have one united team name that all slow machines could be put towards not to split efforts and divert attention away from that goal. Yatta is a happy phrase, hey Yatta! we just passed another bigtime folder it will spur interest as a whole to reignite the fire of competition when these big time folders know they are getting outfolded by a collabrative effort of machines instead of ohh look since they can't decide on a name both teams are still floundering back there making up their minds whose favorite they are going to play.

Now perhaps you may see this as harsh but it is simply saying that by not getting the name "you" wanted you are not going to contribute that is really sad not really all of what this team and to be a part of this team is about. The this or else attitude hurts not only the people in this effort with you but the team as a whole. Think about it, if you want to discuss it more talk to me about it.

J

[Ebola]

i agree with j. why ...because he is always right. :D

[SpeeDj]

Originally posted by Ebola
i agree with j. why ...because he is always right. :D No I admit to being wrong when I am, we are human we are bound to make mistakes. I am just simply wondering why when we all agreed a poll would solve naming the team and we were all in agreement. That now that doesn't work because the name someone wanted wasn't picked first. It makes no sense to me, it is an issued ultimatum and that isn't right. I mean this team was founded on co-operation and teamwork, all of a sudden what as a team was put to a vote for a name now isn't good enough since it is not the one someone else wanted. I am sorry if this offends but let's look at this from a different angle which I am trying to show here.

J

[muddocktor]

The way I look at it is that if you don't like the name of the slow team, then keep your slow boxen Folding under your own name. That is what I am going to do as I find that Yatta personally offends me to the extreme(not the name, the whole little video clip), so I will keep my slow rigs Folding under my own name instead of causing confusion and dissention among the Folding members here. I'm not putting anyone down and I'm certainly not flaming you, BigBlockk, as I know that you didn't start Team Centipede. If that name had been chosen then I would have most certainly broke out the old Celeron 433 rig and started it under Team Centipede but Yatta was chosen by a fair vote. I will still get the old Celeron box running but I will just have it Fold under muddocktor, just like the rest of my rigs.

Just my 2 peso's worth. Fold on, Brothers!:cool:

[Ebola]

dont worry about it i'll just make the official announcement on the webpage. hahaha. too much power. cannot control self. ahhhhh hahahaha.:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Ploaf]

It has been done. I don't know if it will be undone, but it appears that Team Centipede is folding(not crunching) for Team 32(instead of team 33) which is more important really. I am on the Yatta subteam with my lowly celery and will leave it there since that is the way the vote went. I say for all of those folding for the Yatta team- Let's squash the bug!!(which, btw is in the lead) :D

[S_Wilson]

edit due to poor taste.

[S_Wilson]

SpeeDJ,

What anger, What bitterness. You want people to ponder the purpose of the slow team, well, maybe you should ponder the purpose of FOLDING in general. As I recall, it seems that every work unit helps the team, regardless of where it comes from. More importantly, every work unit helps mankind which is bigger than any team, subteam or individual folder. You seem to have lost focus on the big picture, if you ever saw it at all.

So someone splintered and went their own way. Why does that make you so angry? Is it because someone subverted your authority? I seem to recall in another thread, when Lennytiger was making a fuss over the slow team name, he was told ... this has taken on a life of its own... Now it seems that life has spawned another life. What makes this unacceptable, a "lowblow"?

When it comes to team enviroment and cooperation, that is questionable. There are a few who pull much of the weight in this forum. I can't say enough good things about Ploaf and Kendan, both are more deserving of "Senior" status than most of the actual "Seniors". Maybe their names will be pulled from the hat at the next meeting.

[BigBlockk]

S_Wilson please don't let someones opinion drive you away from a good team. I ask you to please stay.

All I can say is don't let these people drive you away.

BigBlockk

Later.....

[S_Wilson]

Originally posted by BigBlockk
S_Wilson please don't let someones opinion drive you away from a good team. I ask you to please stay.

All I can say is don't let these people drive you away.

BigBlockk

Later.....

Sorry, that part may be over the line. I will go back and edit that part of the post.

[Ploaf]

Whew. I wrote a post and was in the middle of writing it asking you to stay around but had to run out real quick and never sent it. Glad I checked back and glad you're still with us :D
I think you're a valuable member of the team and forum and your opinions are well stated. Besides, I happened to like the Team Centipede name even though I went with the end vote.
Squabbles and disagreements can happen in the best of families and among the best of groups, but somehow these groups manage to stick together and work things out and I hope that happens here. I wouldn't mind seeing a little trash talk between the subteams (see my post above about squashing bugs) just for fun and to have competition between subteams since we have two now. Generate enough excitement and fun and both teams will do well.
Speaking in defense of SpeeDj now. Being a mod of a forum like this isn't always easy no matter how well most of the participants get along and act. You never know when someone is going to come around and do something stupid just to cause problems in the forum. I had one hacked once and took it down because it wasn't worth it to put in all that work just to have some jerk come by and screw it up. I know that things like that(not hacking necessarily, but just someone going out of their way to be an a$$ just to do it) happen here because I've seen it, albeit very rarely. It's easy to get short with people too when it appears that your work isn't being appreciated. SpeeDj has always been good about responding and helping with any requests that I've made regarding things in the forum and I respect what he does here even if I don't always agree with everything he may say.
Anyway, in the words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"(sorry. I just had to do it)

[SpeeDj]

Originally posted by S_Wilson
SpeeDJ,

What anger, What bitterness. You want people to ponder the purpose of the slow team, well, maybe you should ponder the purpose of FOLDING in general. As I recall, it seems that every work unit helps the team, regardless of where it comes from. More importantly, every work unit helps mankind which is bigger than any team, subteam or individual folder. You seem to have lost focus on the big picture, if you ever saw it at all.Being a member of the folding team since it's inception here in the forums and continuing to be an active and productive member I don't think that is a well researched assumption on your part. Yes I am fully aware of the purpose in general of Folding is. I really think you did not truly read what I was trying to get across, I was approached to post a poll so that members could get a majority vote of what they wanted the slow team to be called you were all in agreement on that *Or else my PM/E-Mail box would have been full. The poll ran it's course there was a clear cut choice and everyone was in agreement. When the slowteam name was announced there were some who saw it as a pointless and trivial team name therefore they wanted to not contribute to it, the attitude of Centipede or else was brought out loud and clear. The big picture is what was the point of having a poll to pick the name if you were just going to do what you wanted when it came down to it anyway? So someone splintered and went their own way. Why does that make you so angry? Is it because someone subverted your authority? I seem to recall in another thread, when Lennytiger was making a fuss over the slow team name, he was told ... this has taken on a life of its own... Now it seems that life has spawned another life. What makes this unacceptable, a "lowblow"?I am not angry I am hurt, lennytiger was making a fuss that he wanted everyone to know that it was his idea, that was his fuss. No one subverted my authority I am not one of the Team Leaders of this team. The point that comes in is this, why is it that this persons work has to be conditional. Why is it that when the team name was finally picked and everyone put their machines over that for the good of the project as you would so seem to keep pointing out to me that I have no clue about. Why is their membership to the slow team conditional on what the name is, why do they make it their way or no way? That would make it seem that their involvement with the Folding team is conditional. I am sorry if you take offense at the bluntness of my post.When it comes to team enviroment and cooperation, that is questionable. There are a few who pull much of the weight in this forum. I can't say enough good things about Ploaf and Kendan, both are more deserving of "Senior" status than most of the actual "Seniors". Maybe their names will be pulled from the hat at the next meeting. SpeeDJ, when I think of you I am not able to develop one positive thought, and this has been my feeling for sometime. You can always e-mail Skip with anyone you feel would make a good candidate for seniorship, as seniors are mostly nominated by their peers. My door is always open as anyone will tell you around here. If you have things you would like to discuss with me so be it, I will listen and respond in kind. I have always thought myself to be approachable. If that is not such the case please let me know.

J

[Shadow ÒÓ]

I'm unclear about something here......you guys chose a poll and names, and chose a winner. Why are you going against your own decision?

BigBlockk, what exactly is the point of further deviding the folding team? Is it simply because you find the name "nifty" and choose to "branch out on your own" or is it some sort of attempt to undermine the effort?

OC.com has a long term established folding team....and chose to take on another "pet" project. Are you a member of either project? Perhaps you should re-evaluate the meaning of team. The name of the team is hardly reason enough to devide the effort.

[BigBlockk]

Mr. Shadow, I am not trying to undermine anything. I simply will not fold for Yatta. You may call this childish (at 43 I am anything but a child) but I call it principaled. I will not accept something, simply because it won the voting, if I think it is ignorent and if there is another option.

Quite frankly I can't see what all the fuss is, there is only 2 of us on Team Centipede. We only have 3 processors running. I'm sure Yatta will have more power than us soon enough (even when I get my 2 Celerons running). I just can't figure out what ya'll so afraid of.

You know, I always get in trouble at work for doing things differently than other people. I guess I never learned to be a sheep.

Oh well.....

By the way Mr. Moderator, if you want me to leave the forums, just say so.

BigBlockk

Later.....

[Kendan]

I feel like you are just trying to start something. Like I stated before you can do whatever you want. The problem comes from your atitude and subversive actions. Please stop trying to belittle our team effort here.

[BigBlockk]

Mr. kendan, all I did was make the comment that someone started another slow team. You people are the ones that started the name calling, not me.

All I have tried to do is make people who didn't like the name "Yatta" feel welcome somewhere else. Then what do I get, people calling me subversive and saying I have atitude. I don't know, does it make you feel better. By the way, I do love it when someone sez "this is not a flame" when that's just what it is.

Mr. kendan, you wouldn't happen to be a superviser at a power plant in North Bend Ohio, would ya?

BigBlockk

Later.....

[Ebola]

dont want to be cliche, but this is a team effort so everyone should participate on a team level. we voted and made a team decision and we should stick by it.

i dont appreciate the insults to the mods, myself, and the team either. we all work hard on the team, the webpage, and the forums. some of us even buy extra machines to help out the team.

[muddocktor]

Hey everyone, chill out! Everyone is getting all bent out of shape just because a couple of people started Folding some slow machines under Team Centipede. So what, their points are still going into the kitty for team 32, are they not. I stated in a previous post in this thread that I wouldn't run a machine under Yatta because I think that vid clip is grossly disgusting; maybe other people feel that way too. If the ones who don't like the name Yatta want to register their slow machines under Team Centipede, then don't worry about it. It is still getting more machines Folding for the team that otherwise might still be in the closet. After all, we are only talking about a couple of people here going under Centipede. I personally will just Fold my slow machine under my own username because the vote was for Yatta and not under Team Centipede like BigBlockk, because the vote did go in the favor of Yatta.

I just went back and looked at the poll results and Yatta won, not with a majority but with a plurality. What you should have done was have a runoff between Yatta and The ISA Strikes Back, which was in second place. That way, it would have given more of the people who detested the Yatta thing to unite under 1 common name other than Yatta. But it's all said and done and there is now 2 slow teams, so what.

I'm not trying to get on anyone's case or anything like that; I just want all of you guys to kind of step back and cool off. It isn't doing the team (team 32:D ) any good to have insults and recriminations flying back and forth. Let's just do some Folding, drink a few :beer: .

Just my opinion, folks, later.
muddocktor

[S_Wilson]

Originally posted by S_Wilson
There are a few who pull much of the weight in this forum.

Clarification: I meant team leadership with this statement.

[bobt17]

umm y dont u just have a race between the 2 slow teams??? i know thats what we have done in the seti forum a few times i think

[S_Wilson]

SpeeDj,

I was offended by your post, it enraged me. Why? Maybe because your post seemed bitter and angry. For whatever reason, I took it personal and responded in what I felt was a similar manner. For that response I am absolutely wrong and offer my apologies. Because of my anger, I misunderstood what you were trying to say.

I don't know who created team centipede, but I thought it would be a harmless alternative. It was harmless, possibly good for competition and morale until those whom demand one united team posted. Now it seems to have created hard feelings and bickering. Like Ploaf said, squabbles and disagreements sometimes happen but we always seem to work through them. I hope we are able to work through this one.

As of yet, I don't even have a slow folder running yet. The last few days I have had few hours of sleep just trying to get my main rigs sorted and folding much less setting up another folder. Several hardware failures, they always come in three's. But my intention had been that once I set one up, it was going to fold for Yatta because it won the poll. Then Centipede came along and I thought it was a good idea, if for no other reason than a little competition and yes, I really like the name.

Now, if a person chooses to fold or not to fold, for whatever reason, that is their decision and should not be ridiculed. As for myself, I am dedicated to folding whether it be for this team or another. I would be content folding for default. When this team asked for help to stay ahead of OCAU, I answered the call and decided to stay because I like this team.

As of now, I consider this matter closed for me due to the damage created. I will no longer discuss any matter to do with centipede or yatta in this thread.

[S_Wilson]

Originally posted by Ebola
some of us even buy extra machines to help out the team.

When I started folding, I only had one box, now I have five, three of which are mine personally.

[nil_esh]

It's all good.. In the words of Chun Li... Yatta!

[Kendan]

The matter is closed for me also. I put BigBlockk on my ignore list and will not be bothered anymore with this matter. I am all for the Overclockers.com F@H2 team. I enjoy the team atmosphere here and will do what I can to make it enjoyable for the rest of the team. Fold on!!!

[Shadow ÒÓ]

Originally posted by BigBlockk
Mr. Shadow, I am not trying to undermine anything. I simply will not fold for Yatta. You may call this childish (at 43 I am anything but a child) but I call it principaled. I will not accept something, simply because it won the voting, if I think it is ignorent and if there is another option.

Quite frankly I can't see what all the fuss is, there is only 2 of us on Team Centipede. We only have 3 processors running. I'm sure Yatta will have more power than us soon enough (even when I get my 2 Celerons running). I just can't figure out what ya'll so afraid of.

You know, I always get in trouble at work for doing things differently than other people. I guess I never learned to be a sheep.

Oh well.....

By the way Mr. Moderator, if you want me to leave the forums, just say so.

BigBlockk

Later.....

The last line in your post bothers me most....I would never ask anyone to leave the forums for feeling differently about something than I do, and a difference of opinion is always healthy for growth.

I don't believe this has anything to do with becomming a "sheep", nor do I understand why you would want to pull members from another team to suit your own needs. In fact, I'm not at all positive you caught the message in my post. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Furthermore, please do not call me Mr as I'm only 36 and have yet to live long enough to be respectable. =)

I would think a second vote would just be putting this whole thing in a double elimination category and the only people who would stand to lose are the ones who have already won the race.

I don't think SpeeDJ's post was any more than blunt. Lighten up guys.

I would recommend someone move this to debates.....it's not my forum and I'm not going to step on anyone's toes.

[BigBlockk]

Well pardon me all to hell. I was simply trying to show some respect during these little exchanges. Next time I see my mom I'll smack her for teaching me that nasty habit.

I'll try to put this a different way, maybe you will understand. I AM NOT TRYING TO TAKE PEOPLE AWAY FROM YATTA! I believe that some of the people that voted for a name other than Yatta were simply voting AGAINST the name Yatta. I just thought that Team Centipede would give these people some place to use their slow machines. One of them has already told you that he will not fold for Yatta, he would rather keep his slow stuff for himself. I'm not saying he would fold for Team Centipede either but it should show you that there are some more near subversives like myself out there.

All I did was post that someone had started another team......

You know something, there have been several times in my life that I spent thousends of dollars just to prove a point.

BigBlockk

Later.....

[S_Wilson]

Originally posted by Shadow ÒÓ

I would recommend someone move this to debates.....it's not my forum and I'm not going to step on anyone's toes.

This appears to be winding down. Probably should have been in debates but at this point there is no need to air the teams dirty laundry in other parts of the forums. We should just let it die a peaceful death here.

[JetMech]

Originally posted by S_Wilson


This appears to be winding down. Probably should have been in debates but at this point there is no need to air the teams dirty laundry in other parts of the forums. We should just let it die a peaceful death here. Ditto!

[azhari]

I suggest that one of the mods just kills this thread and we all observe a minute of silence and drink a few :beer: 's.

Personally, i'm watching both teams to see how they do versus each other. Kinda fun to see some competition among FRIENDS. We are friends here, or at least that's my impression. I've been reading this thread for a few days and, to be honest, didn't like the bickering so much that I haven't posted anything for that few days. No, I'm not saying that I'll leave if you guys don't make up :D (especially since i haven't exaclty been an essential part), but think of others who stop by, read this thread, and leave to never come back again.

Having been born in Iran I value the freedoms in this country more than any American I've met. Freedom of speech being near the top. So if someone wants to invite others to join another team, which still is part of team 32, that is his right. Personally, I may not agree with it, but it is not in my place to tell him if he's right or wrong. However, Mr. BigBlockk (and i'm using the title as a sign of respect, nothing more or less) since you are an adult, I'm sure that you have learned by now that sometimes doing something that we don't like is the better choice. Since I already said that I'm not going to tell anyone what to do (I know, its too late already :D ) I'll stop here.

To close, I suggest that this thread be deleted/burned/nuked forever.

[S_Wilson]

Originally posted by SpeeDj
.You can always e-mail Skip with anyone you feel would make a good candidate for seniorship, as seniors are mostly nominated by their peers.
J

Done. Thanks for the tip.

[BigBlockk]

Well Mr. azhari I thought I was making friends but when three forths of the croud gives you a hard time over nothing, one begins to wonder.

BigBlockk

Later.....

[SpeeDj]

BigBlockk I do apologize, I seriously questioned your motives behind posting this thread. I asked quite a few things and pointed out my point of view, Being that the race was won the winner was picked and it seemed we were all in agreement on it. It was more confusion and hurt than anger, I think by bluntly expressing my feelings I stirred a pot. I am sorry that I have done so. You are always welcome here, both as a member and as a contributor, it has always been well known that sometimes people do not see eye to eye on things. That is the nature of people, it is not a bad thing at all, we are all individuals and entitled to our opinions and feelings.

I hope you can all accept my apology to you.

J

[BigBlockk]

SpeeDJ, I thank you for the apology. I am very thankfull that that is somewhat behind us now. It was rather unplesent.

I do hope that both teams do well (looks like it will be tough for TC to stay up with Yatta).

Oh well.

BigBlockk

Later.....

[ThePunkGeek]

why all the argument?
if they wanna start a second team just let them.
Anyways it will give YATTA! some compitition. and atleast there folding for us and not someone else.

isnt this about helping other people in reseach?
i dont have any slow machines around so i can take any side and i totaly agree with speedj why did you vote if you wernt gonna go with the winner?

fold on we need #1!!