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henzo
04-30-09, 05:52 PM
Here is a teaser screenshot of the 4890CF at stock clocks in a vantage bench with my i7 at ONLY 3.4ghz guys. These things are a beast and cant imagine what they are capable of when I get to oc them this weekend. Pics will be up later on of them in my dirty 900 lol.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s51/williamh1978/P18304Vantage.jpg

These things out did my 4870x2 at max oc and my i7 at 4ghz as seen in this link to the Orb by almost 500 points.

mastrdrver
04-30-09, 07:26 PM
What's up with the clocks jumping around on the 1st card?

Which HIS cards are those? I've been thinking about selling my 4870x2 and getting a couple Ice or XFX cards. Really like that double lifetime on the XFX cards.

Nice score btw.

henzo
04-30-09, 07:57 PM
The clocks are jumping because it seems to have a small glitch where it goes in and out of 2d mode while gpuz is running. I uninstalled CCC in favor of Riva and I think that did it. Gonna have to reinstall just the driver package I think.

And the HIS cards are these right here.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s51/williamh1978/SDC10295.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s51/williamh1978/SDC10296.jpg

chuck4456
04-30-09, 08:03 PM
That's with two?

henzo
04-30-09, 08:04 PM
That's with two?

Yeah at stock and low cpu clocks.

xtkxhom3r
04-30-09, 09:06 PM
very nice pro ima install vantage to see what i get ;) but my cpu is at 4.0

Badbonji
05-01-09, 03:05 AM
I wonder how it will compare to a GTX295?

henzo
05-01-09, 05:16 AM
very nice pro ima install vantage to see what i get ;) but my cpu is at 4.0

Thanks. I dont have anytime to go all out on my oc till this weekend, it would be nice to see what what they theoretically can do lol.

I wonder how it will compare to a GTX295?

In alot of reviews, they do better in games at 1920x1200 and that's what I play at. I pay no attention to the 3dmark scores posted as they all run the nVidia cards with physx enabled against the ati cards, thus edgin them out on those accounts.

Badbonji
05-01-09, 07:13 AM
Thanks. I dont have anytime to go all out on my oc till this weekend, it would be nice to see what what they theoretically can do lol.



In alot of reviews, they do better in games at 1920x1200 and that's what I play at. I pay no attention to the 3dmark scores posted as they all run the nVidia cards with physx enabled against the ati cards, thus edgin them out on those accounts.

Yeah I hate physx scores.

BG-0
05-01-09, 04:33 PM
I hate PhysX. Too bad that there are ALREADY 12 games that support it, making it a huge thing in nVidia's and their fans' eyes.

OnDborder
05-01-09, 04:52 PM
:drool:

I could go for a couple of those to play with..

xtkxhom3r
05-01-09, 06:08 PM
I hate PhysX. Too bad that there are ALREADY 12 games that support it, making it a huge thing in nVidia's and their fans' eyes.

o rly:eek: what games support it???

Shiggity
05-01-09, 06:13 PM
1GHz core on both pls :santa:

henzo
05-01-09, 07:19 PM
1GHz core on both pls :santa:

Gonna try to.

xtkxhom3r
05-01-09, 11:31 PM
i couldnt get over 960 stable... so good luck haha

henzo
05-02-09, 04:53 AM
i couldnt get over 960 stable... so good luck haha

Voltage factory, or any other tweak didnt work for you? I gotta work today, but am going all out tomorrow. I'll post what the max is for sure. Sorry to hear about that, try some more volts. Thats how everyone is getting over 1000 mhz from what I gather.

BG-0
05-02-09, 06:50 AM
o rly:eek: what games support it???

The new Unreal Tournament has a few PhysX levels, Mirror's Edge of course, then there was this RPG whose name I can't quite remember, maybe one more game you could've heard of, then this CRAP shooter game, and after that, the rest are very meaningless titles in any way.

henzo
05-03-09, 07:44 AM
1GHz core on both pls :santa:

i couldnt get over 960 stable... so good luck haha

Ask and ye shall receive.:cool::drool:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s51/williamh1978/3dMArk0627276.jpg

This was done without CCC and through RivaTuner's voltage softmod and it was raised to 1.4v to get it here, and there seems to be more room. FurMark seems to think it is okay and there have been ZERO artifacts so far. Imma try to get 1100 out of it, but am perfectly happy with this on air and my fan speed is 75% for the top card and 60% for the bottom one. Nice cards guys, go and get a couple. I would have bought another one if my board had 3 pci express slots lol.

Here is an updated Vantage at those clocks above.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s51/williamh1978/3dMarkVantageP19971.jpg

The proof is in the puddin' boys, these cards are killer. Good job ATi.

Please, dont mind the dust lol.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s51/williamh1978/SDC10299.jpg

freeagent
05-03-09, 10:28 AM
nice cards :thup:

dont feel bad about the dust, mine gets about like yours after about a week or so. thats what happens when you move lots of air, and have pets and carpet :)

henzo
05-03-09, 10:52 AM
nice cards :thup:

dont feel bad about the dust, mine gets about like yours after about a week or so. thats what happens when you move lots of air, and have pets and carpet :)

Thanks. One wiener dog (the little womans and kids) and a high traffic carpeted area = my dusty case lol.:bang head

xtkxhom3r
05-03-09, 10:52 AM
wow nice clocks bro i wasnt able to go over 960 on the core but i wasnt aware there were soft mods!!! so is rivatuner the bestway to do it ?

btw your true looks hella dirty lol might wanna clean that out! :P

henzo
05-03-09, 11:01 AM
wow nice clocks bro i wasnt able to go over 960 on the core but i wasnt aware there were soft mods!!! so is rivatuner the bestway to do it ?

btw your true looks hella dirty lol might wanna clean that out! :P

Unless you flash your cards bios to the Asus one so you can use their voltage tweak utility, Riva is the only other way I know of that works. Everything you need to do it is right in the link.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/increasing-voltages--extreme-oc-hd-4890-using-rivatuner/6880-1.html?doc=6880

First, you need to get Riva to recognize your 4890s though. For this, just click below. Thank you Chinstrap.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=601966

And yes, I need to but am too engrossed with my gaming to care right now lol. These things SLAY all the games I put before it at these clocks. I hate Crysis so there will be none of that around here from me. But Far Cry 2 and Grid run flawlessly at max settings. FC2 gets over 60fps at 1920x1200 with everything on and 50-ish when I set the world on fire lol. Those who play know what I am talking about.

xtkxhom3r
05-03-09, 11:15 AM
thanks a lot henzo ima try that so whats better asus tweak or rivatuner? and do i need to have them startup with my pc for the settings to stay or is it a one time thing?

henzo
05-03-09, 11:32 AM
I think that riva would be better only because I love it and have used it for a long time it seems and there has never been an issue at all with it.

Rivatuner is a one time setup when the proper boxes are ticked. However, the voltages can be done either way (check the quote below). DO NOT save the max clocks to have riva apply them at start up if you do not do the scheduler entry for the voltages. Just apply them manually if you choose to not have the voltages start with windows.

"If you want to make the settings to be applied automatically on startup, simply use the values displayed in the [b]VRM Voltage Control[b] window besides Parameters: when setting up a scheduler entry in RivaTuner under the Scheduler tab." This quote was taken from a post from xtremesystems about using this same sm on a 4870 and 4870x2. It works the same and is the only I can see to not have to manually set up the voltages and max oc of the cards (which only takes literally a under minute to do once in windows).

Badbonji
05-03-09, 11:50 AM
Ask and ye shall receive.:cool::drool:

This was done without CCC and through RivaTuner's voltage softmod and it was raised to 1.4v to get it here, and there seems to be more room. FurMark seems to think it is okay and there have been ZERO artifacts so far. Imma try to get 1100 out of it, but am perfectly happy with this on air and my fan speed is 75% for the top card and 60% for the bottom one. Nice cards guys, go and get a couple. I would have bought another one if my board had 3 pci express slots lol.

Here is an updated Vantage at those clocks above.



The proof is in the puddin' boys, these cards are killer. Good job ATi.

Please, dont mind the dust lol.


Btw, your vantage cpu score seems very low! At 4.3Ghz? The only image I have for my core i7 is at 4Ghz, and got 24k cpu score (dual 8800gts 512mb, physx off):

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/badbonji/VantageCorei740Ghz1600MhzRamGPUoc.jpg

At 4.35Ghz it was closer to 26.5k, so your score overall is a bit lower too. Seems odd why yours is real low. (You can see ppu is off from the fact that the fps in the cpu test is not abnormally high)

henzo
05-03-09, 01:26 PM
It is 4.3ghz with turbo, so it may only be reading 3.93ghz I think. I am going to play with the bclk and see where I can go from there.

xtkxhom3r
05-03-09, 05:08 PM
well i finally got everything working and this is what i ended up with :D

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z182/xtkxhom3r/vantage40ht10ghz1100mhz.png

ChinStrap
05-03-09, 05:17 PM
the 4890's are some great band for the buck cards too. good numbers you guys :)

henzo
05-03-09, 06:26 PM
Great score xtkxhom3r. I gotta boost my bclk and take off turbo to see where I can get my i7, then work on my shaders abit more and then we'll see if I can break 21k also. Good job, what did your final voltage read on that run?

EDIT: Well it seems that my psu may be overworked once I try to get above 4ghz @ 1.45v. That was an unexpected turn of events. When it is at 3.93ghz and turbo on (giving me 4.347ghz) it is good to go with the big oc on these cards. But once I try to get a non turbo'd 4ghz+, it just doesn't wanna boot, or it gives me a worse cpu score (by a couple thousand points). I'm scratching my head on this one fellas. Only thing I can think of is the psu...

xtkxhom3r
05-03-09, 10:03 PM
lol i was never able to get 4.0 with out turbo im going to try some more tonight

xtkxhom3r
05-04-09, 04:32 AM
well this is the highest iv been able to get it man i wish i had a d0 so i could really start putting out some numbers...

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z182/xtkxhom3r/vantage22003edit.png


gpu core is at 1020 with 1.37v watch your vrm temps if your not on watercooling above 98c your card becomes unstable

henzo
05-04-09, 07:48 AM
GAAAAAAAAAA, curse your jiga extreme board lol. When I have some stress free time on my hands I am gonna wring as many volts as I need to either get it to boot at over 4ghz, or fry it. Stupid i7. I blame myself for not waiting till the "tock" part of Intel's i7 line to get here (D0 obviously for those who don't know). Early adoption has its drawbacks folks.

Badbonji
05-04-09, 08:18 AM
GAAAAAAAAAA, curse your jiga extreme board lol. When I have some stress free time on my hands I am gonna wring as many volts as I need to either get it to boot at over 4ghz, or fry it. Stupid i7. I blame myself for not waiting till the "tock" part of Intel's i7 line to get here (D0 obviously for those who don't know). Early adoption has its drawbacks folks.

Tock isn't D0, that is a revision -.- lol

xtkxhom3r
05-04-09, 01:39 PM
not much too it man as you can see im running instane volts through it lol just crank it up.. im sure its not prime stable lol but its good enough to run vantage :D

henzo
05-04-09, 04:22 PM
Tock isn't D0, that is a revision -.- lol

Facepalm...

xtkxhom3r
05-04-09, 04:54 PM
Facepalm...

lol hurry up and start benching :P

ChinStrap
05-04-09, 06:11 PM
lol hurry up and start benching :P

06' plz :)


(both of you :P)

xtkxhom3r
05-04-09, 06:23 PM
lmao i was thinking about doing some 06 runs in a bit.. im just working on my hometheater setup right now tryin to get all the right coverart n ****...

Shiggity
05-04-09, 08:03 PM
Awesome job! :attn:

repilce
05-10-09, 11:41 AM
bah.. can anyone provide me a good link to the VT1165 plugin.. wanna do some playing with my **70 and none on the provided links working for me.

nm.. got it.. :bang head

ChinStrap
05-10-09, 11:44 AM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=215521

should work for ya. Barring XS is actually working :P

sandyduff
05-10-09, 11:59 AM
Nice numbers xtkxhom3r!!

sandyduff
05-10-09, 12:18 PM
over 1GHz on the core...? that is just silly... seems like they overclock like champs too...

xtkxhom3r
05-10-09, 12:18 PM
bah.. can anyone provide me a good link to the VT1165 plugin.. wanna do some playing with my **70 and none on the provided links working for me.

nm.. got it.. :bang head

yea it took me for ever to find that stupid plugin bro glad you found it though

and thanks sandyduff took me a while to break 22k

sandyduff
05-10-09, 12:23 PM
over 1GHz on the core...? that is just silly... seems like they overclock like champs too...

xtkxhom3r
05-10-09, 01:29 PM
yea they oc pretty good but vrm temps are very hard to tame when you push over 1.37v through them i cant wait to get some full cover waterblocks to see what they can really do

sandyduff
05-10-09, 02:24 PM
You seriously think you could get more out of the card....?

henzo
05-10-09, 05:04 PM
You seriously think you could get more out of the card....?

I have been able to get 1090 on the core and 1100 on the memory to boot up and run about 7/8th the way to completing vantage lol. I think I may be putting too many volts through it on air lol. The temps stay below 80c though at these clocks. it just simply crashes during the multi colored smoke test (the last feature test btw) just before I get my score. Maybe 1.475v on air isnt helping lol.:bang head

I have gotten a few memory dump blue screens if that gives anyone a clue to help a mofo out lol.

If I had them on water, well that's a different story all together.

xtkxhom3r
05-10-09, 05:17 PM
your putting way to much volts bro if you take a look at rivatuner run furmark in windowed mode under a 640x480 resolution and look at your vrm temps under load you will see they go over 100c they are rated for about 120c if i run my card at 1000/1100 with 1.37v it is furmark stable and vantage stable if i try to push it any higher it fails but if i add more volts it also fails because of the vrm temps you need to keep them under 100c

henzo
05-10-09, 06:07 PM
That's what I figured. Im going to try it on 1.4v and see what I can get it to do. I've been loving the game on this thing too much to bench lol.

xtkxhom3r
05-10-09, 07:04 PM
what games you playin now? and try 1.37 that seems to be the sweet spot for me..

henzo
05-10-09, 08:32 PM
what games you playin now? and try 1.37 that seems to be the sweet spot for me..

Far Cry 2, CoD 4 and 5 along with Dead Space and Cryostasis. GTA 4 is installed and I play every once in awhile.

I have it at 1.4v on windows start up now in my Rivatuner schedule so I dont have to mess with it everytime I turn it on and I got a 21497 with 1030 core and 1000 memory I believe. I still got some fine tuning to do and will try like hell to break 22k lol. I need it, it is my white whale now.:beer:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1051740

I tried 1050c 1100m and it was a nogo with heavy artifacts and a reboot towards the end of the 1st test. Meh, Ill tweak it some more and report back soon enough. Thanks for the input as well.