Memory Confusion??

Snakegb · May 2, 2009

Hi

Would like to know if this looks strange to you or is it my lack of knowledge!

Last April i bought some
Crucial Ballistix Tracer Memory 4 x 1GB DDR2 PC2-8500C5

Having problems with my pc blue screening I was checking some things and I ran Cpuz, but to my Amazement it reports my memory as
DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes

Here is Cpuz's Report

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CPU-Z 1.51 report file

Processor(s)

Number of processors 1
Number of cores 4 per processor
Number of threads 4 per processor
Name Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Code Name Kentsfield
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Package Socket 775 LGA
Family/Model/Stepping 6.F.B
Extended Family/Model 6.F
Core Stepping G0
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 1600.0 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 6.0 x 266.7 MHz
Rated Bus speed 1066.7 MHz
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
Instruction sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
L1 Data cache (per processor) 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache (per processor) 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache (per processor) 2 x 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size

Chipset & Memory

Northbridge Intel X48 rev. 01
Southbridge Intel 82801IR (ICH9R) rev. 02
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 4096 MBytes
Memory Frequency 533.3 MHz (1:2)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 5.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRCD) 7 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 7 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 24 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T

System

System Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Name X48-DS4
System S/N
Mainboard Vendor Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Mainboard Model X48-DS4
BIOS Vendor Award Software International, Inc.
BIOS Version F1
BIOS Date 03/21/2008

Memory SPD

Module 1 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Crucial Technology
Module 2 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Crucial Technology
Module 3 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Crucial Technology
Module 4 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Crucial Technology

Software

Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)
DirectX Version 10.0

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Is this Right or have i been sent the wrong memory?

Thanks

Badbonji · May 2, 2009

Check the memory tab and throw in a screenshot. If it says 400Mhz then it is only running at 800Mhz effective. No motherboard defaults to past 800Mhz for memory, so you need to set it manually into the BIOS, with timings either by enabling an XMP or memory profile or actually setting in the values.

redduc900 · May 2, 2009

Just to add to what badbonji suggested, you can disregard the Max Bandwidth - PC2-6400 result under the SPD tab in CPU-Z. What's of importance are the DRAM Frequency of 533 MHz, which is 1/2 of 1066 MHz - what the RAM is rated at, and the latency settings (5-7-7-24 as read on the 'memory' tab in CPU-Z). The SPD is programmed at: JEDEC standard 5-5-5-18 latency values at 800 MHz. So going by the CPU-Z dump you posted, the RAM is running at it's rated speed, albeit looser timings.

Snakegb said:
Multiplier x Bus speed 6.0 x 266.7 MHz
Rated Bus speed 1066.7 MHz

Chipset & Memory

Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 4096 MBytes
Memory Frequency 533.3 MHz (1:2) <--- (= 1066 MHz effective DRAM Frequency)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 5.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRCD) 7 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 7 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 24 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T

At your current FSB of 266 MHz w/ a 1:2 divider (266/1066 NB strap), this runs your RAM at an effective DRAM frequency of 1066 MHz.

Snakegb · May 2, 2009

Thanks thats good to know,

Of course that dump was done with my pc set to default settings due the the terrible blue screen of death.

trying to find out what is causing it to happen, thinking maybe its the memory but no sure! as am quite new to overclocking.

I am running at q6600 at 3.42mhz on a liquid cooled cpu this was my settings

Cpu Clock 9x
Cpu Host Freq 380
Pci express Auto
System memory multiplier 2.66D (1013)
Cpu Voltage 1.47

with memory timings
Cas 5
Ras to delay 5
Ras Precharge 5
Precharge delay(tRas) 24
Act to Act (tRRD) 4
Rank write to read delay 4
write to precharge delay 8
Refresh to act delay 68
read to precharge delay 4
static tread value 4
static tread adjust 0
comand rte(CMD) 2

in a word HELP!

redduc900 · May 4, 2009

If you feel the BSODs are RAM related (Vdimm, timings, vNB / vMCH, etc.), then run Memtest86+ to rule it out. What's the exact STOP error in the BSOD? Try increasing the FSB to 428 MHz and drop the multiplier to x8 for an effective 3.42 GHz. Change the NB strap to a 4:5 divider (266/667) for an effective 1070 MHz DRAM frequency, or 5:6 (333/800); 1027 MHz DRAM freq. with the four primary timings at...

Code:

CAS# Latency (tCL): 5.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRCD): 5 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS): 15 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T

... and Vdimm at between 2.0 and 2.1v. Leave all sub-timings on AUTO except for REF to ACT Delay (tRFC); change from the current 68 to 54. Although this BIOS template is for the DQ6, it should be similar to the X48-DS4. Fill it out with all of your current settings at either 380 MHz x 9 or 428 MHz x 8...

Code:

[b][u]MB Intelligent Tweaker (MIT)[/u][/b]

Robust Graphics Booster...........:
CPU Clock Ratio...................:
CPU Frequency.....................:
CPU Host Clock Control............:
CPU Host Frequency(Mhz)...........:
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).......:
C.I.A.2...........................:
Performance Enhance...............:
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)....:
Memory Frequency(Mhz).............:
DRAM Timing Selectable ...........:
[b]Standard Timing Control[/b]
CAS Latency Time (tCL)............:
DRAM RAS# to CAS#  (tRCD).........:
DRAM RAS# Precharge (tRP).........:
Precharge Delay (tRAS)............:

[b]Advanced Timing Control[/b]

ACT to ACT Delay(tRRD)............:
Rank Write to READ Delay (tWTR)...:
Write To Precharge Delay (tWR)....:
Refresh to ACT Delay (tRFC).......: 
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP)....: 
Static tREAD Value (tRD)..........:
Static tREAD Phase Adj............: 
Command Rate (CMD)................:

[b]Clock Driving and Skew Control[/b]

CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control...:
CPU Clock Skew Control............: 
(G)MCH Clock Skew Control.........: 
[b]System Voltage Control[/b] () = Base Voltages
DDR3 OverVoltage Control...(1.50v):
PCI-E OverVoltage Control.,(1.50v):
FSB OverVoltage Control....(1.10v):
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control,(1.45v):
CPU GTLREF1 Voltage*.......(67%)..:
CPU GTLREF2 Voltage*.......(61%)..:
Loadline Calibration..............:
CPU Voltage Control...............:
Normal CPU Vcore..................:
Note: * Hidden Features Press [CTRL] + [F1] from main Menu to Access

[b][u]Advanced Bios Features[/u][/b]

CPU Multi-Threading...............:
Limit CPUID Max to 3..............:
No-Execute Memory Protect.........:
CPU Enhanced Halt(CIE)............:
CPU Thermal Monitor 2.............:
CPU EIST Function.................:
Virtuaalization Technology........:

Snakegb · May 5, 2009

Hi thanks for the reply,

I cant Remember what the BSOD said it flashes off very Fast. I will try to get it next time.

This is the info Problem Reports gives me
BCCode: 3b
BCP1: 00000000C0000005
BCP2: FFFFFA6001057042
BCP3: FFFFFA6008F70DC0
BCP4: 0000000000000000

Here is My settings before i changed them to your surgestions (480 x 8 etc)

Code:

Robust Graphics Booster...........: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...................: 9x 
CPU Frequency.....................: 3.42 (380 x 9)
CPU Host Clock Control............: Enable
CPU Host Frequency(Mhz)...........: 380
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).......: 100 
C.I.A.2...........................: Disable
Performance Enhance...............: Standard
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)....: 2.66D
Memory Frequency(Mhz).............: 1013
DRAM Timing Selectable ...........: Manual
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time (tCL)............: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS#  (tRCD).........: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge (tRP).........: 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)............: 18

Advanced Timing Control

ACT to ACT Delay(tRRD)............: 4
Rank Write to READ Delay (tWTR)...: 4
Write To Precharge Delay (tWR)....: 8
Refresh to ACT Delay (tRFC).......: 68
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP)....: 4
Static tREAD Value (tRD)..........: 4
Static tREAD Phase Adj............: 0
Command Rate (CMD)................: 2

Clock Driving and Skew Control

CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control...: 800mv
CPU Clock Skew Control............: Normal
(G)MCH Clock Skew Control.........: Normal
System Voltage Control () = Base Voltages: Manual
DDR3 OverVoltage Control...(1.50v): +0.45 (making it 2.3v)
PCI-E OverVoltage Control.,(1.50v): Normal
FSB OverVoltage Control....(1.10v): Normal
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control,(1.45v): Normal
CPU GTLREF1 Voltage*.......(67%)..: Normal
CPU GTLREF2 Voltage*.......(61%)..: Normal
Loadline Calibration..............: Auto
CPU Voltage Control...............: 1.48125v
Normal CPU Vcore..................: 1.32500v
Note: * Hidden Features Press [CTRL] + [F1] from main Menu to Access

Advanced Bios Features

CPU Multi-Threading...............: Enable
Limit CPUID Max to 3..............: Disable
No-Execute Memory Protect.........: Enable
CPU Enhanced Halt(CIE)............: Enable
CPU Thermal Monitor 2.............: Enable
CPU EIST Function.................: Enable
Virtuaalization Technology........: Enable

redduc900 · May 5, 2009

A BCCode: 3b (STOP 0x3B = SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION) STOP error is normally graphics driver related (more so with ATI drivers than with nVidia). Check the Event Viewer logs for any critical errors related to the 0x3B STOP error (Start | Type event viewer in the Start Search field | Click on Event Viewer under 'Programs'). When you open Event Viewer and expand Critical, Application, or System logs - under "Windows Logs" (or look under "Summary of Administrative Events--> Event Type--> Critical)... double click the specific error so it opens in the Summary Page Events window. Next click on Copy--> Copy Details as Text in the RH pane, and paste the contents of the ClipBoard in this thread. Also post your model video card and drivers being used.

Snakegb · May 5, 2009

My Graphics card is a nvidia Geforce GTX 280 with Driver version : (178.24) or full id: 7.15.11.7824

also may have just found the problem (time will tell)
Ive just download a program called Driver Sweeper and this has shown me i still have ati drivers in my system despite Uninstalling them and started to get this problem not long after i installed my Nvidia so think this may be it .. will keep you posted.

These are the 5 errors that seam to keep repeating :

Code:

Log Name:      Security
Source:        Microsoft-Windows-Eventlog
Date:          03/05/2009 22:57:53
Event ID:      1101
Task Category: Event processing
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Audit Success
User:          N/A
Computer:      H2O
Description:
Audit events have been dropped by the transport.  The real time backup file was corrupt due to improper shutdown.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Eventlog" Guid="{fc65ddd8-d6ef-4962-83d5-6e5cfe9ce148}" />
    <EventID>1101</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>101</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x4020000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-05-03T21:57:53.277Z" />
    <EventRecordID>32032</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="1000" ThreadID="416" />
    <Channel>Security</Channel>
    <Computer>H2O</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <UserData>
    <AuditEventsDropped xmlns:auto-ns3="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events" xmlns="http://manifests.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/windows/eventlog">
      <Reason>34</Reason>
    </AuditEventsDropped>
  </UserData>
</Event>

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Log Name:      System
Source:        Microsoft-Windows-HttpEvent
Date:          03/05/2009 22:57:54
Event ID:      15016
Task Category: None
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      H2O
Description:
Unable to initialize the security package Kerberos for server side authentication.  The data field contains the error number.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-HttpEvent" Guid="{7b6bc78c-898b-4170-bbf8-1a469ea43fc5}" EventSourceName="HTTP" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">15016</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-05-03T21:57:54.244Z" />
    <EventRecordID>91174</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="56" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>H2O</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="DeviceObject">\Device\Http\ReqQueue</Data>
    <Data Name="SecurityPackage">Kerberos</Data>
    <Binary>000004000200300000000000A83A00C00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000E030980</Binary>
  </EventData>
</Event>

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Log Name:      Application
Source:        Microsoft-Windows-WMI
Date:          03/05/2009 22:59:30
Event ID:      10
Task Category: None
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      H2O
Description:
Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of error 0x80041003. Events cannot be delivered through this filter until the problem is corrected.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-WMI" Guid="{1edeee53-0afe-4609-b846-d8c0b2075b1f}" EventSourceName="WinMgmt" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">10</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-05-03T21:59:30.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>17981</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
    <Channel>Application</Channel>
    <Computer>H2O</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>//./root/CIMV2</Data>
    <Data>SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99</Data>
    <Data>0x80041003</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

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Log Name:      System
Source:        Service Control Manager
Date:          03/05/2009 22:59:30
Event ID:      7026
Task Category: None
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      H2O
Description:
The following boot-start or system-start driver(s) failed to load: 
i8042prt
KS0108
LC7981
n3900
SED133x
T6963C
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908D1-A6D7-4695-8E1E-26931D2012F4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">7026</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-05-03T21:59:30.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>91250</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>H2O</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="param1">
i8042prt
KS0108
LC7981
n3900
SED133x
T6963C</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

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Log Name:      System
Source:        EventLog
Date:          03/05/2009 23:19:58
Event ID:      6008
Task Category: None
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      H2O
Description:
The previous system shutdown at 23:17:50 on 03/05/2009 was unexpected.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="EventLog" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="32768">6008</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-05-03T22:19:58.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>91272</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>H2O</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>23:17:50</Data>
    <Data>03/05/2009</Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>1219</Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Binary>D9070500000003001700110032005803D90705000000030016001100320058033C0000003C000000000000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000</Binary>
  </EventData>
</Event>

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