SCSI's good?

[SeanChiarot]

a buddy just recently asked me if a SCSI is any good, naturally..... i said i had no idea XD, so i was doing a bit of looking up and i must say i am falling in love with them with each review i read, but i wanted to get some opinions from people who "USE" them and not just test em for a few days and toss a review up....

the one i currently have my eyes on is the Seagate Cheetah, main reason is all my desktop's have used Seagate harddrives and i havent had one fail on me yet...

[doz]

For the price, you might as well go w/ SSD. They are expensive. I have not touched them in years though, due to the price.

[JamesXP]

SCSI is getting old now, SAS is all the rage these days.

I wouldn't reccomend SCSI for dekstop use really, if you want too sure, but its expensive and cumbersome imho for dekstop use.

[SeanChiarot]

hmmmmm
Seagate Cheetah 146GB for 325 bucks (http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14120DR3287&vpn=ST3146855LC&manufacture=SEAGATE)
G.SKILL FM-25S2S-128GB 2.5" 128GB SATA II for 290 bucks (right now its on sale so i save 20 bucks....) (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231221)
so lets figure this out here

128GB @ 290 bucks = aprox 2.27 per GB
146GB @ 325 bucks = aprox 2.22 per GB and this one has more space to!

so im getting a better bang for my buck with the SCSI.... (i had already considered a SSD then i did some numbers and found in MOST cases you get better bang for buck with SCSI :P)


SCSI is getting old now, SAS is all the rage these days.
I wouldn't reccomend SCSI for dekstop use really, if you want too sure, but its expensive and cumbersome imho for dekstop use.

hmmm thats a new term in my books, will have to do some looking up on this SAS =D, and it wouldnt be for desktop use :P...well not this one anyways XD, would be for a work station for the videos i edit (i do alot of filming for events where i am....)

[xrror]

Keep in mind, 15000rpm drives tend to be a bit loud... and warm.

[SeanChiarot]

Keep in mind, 15000rpm drives tend to be a bit loud... and warm.

sound = no prob, as i usually have a headset on (now that my sisters home from school i cant really have my speakers up to much..... and when shes gone, i got my speakers quite loud......)

and as for temp ill end up (more then likley) getting the Antec 900 for my workstation comp, so a fan would be blowing on it.....

and i could allways order something like THIS (http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=ODM=).....

[Aslan]

You'll also need a good controller card for the SCSI drive so add that to the cost as well.

[SeanChiarot]

a decent enough mobo should have a SCSI controller should it not?

[Old Thrashbarg]

a decent enough mobo should have a SCSI controller should it not?

No. Not any recent boards, and absolutely not on any consumer-class boards. SCSI is obsolete, replaced with SAS, and even that's rare to find onboard, except for some server-class boards.

A good quality controller card is probably going to run you $75 or so on the used market, and you'd need a motherboard with the right expansion slots to support it.

I agree with everyone else, between the two, get the SSD, and just forget about SCSI.

[SeanChiarot]

No. Not any recent boards, and absolutely not on any consumer-class boards. SCSI is obsolete, replaced with SAS, and even that's rare to find onboard, except for some server-class boards.

A good quality controller card is probably going to run you $75 or so on the used market, and you'd need a motherboard with the right expansion slots to support it.

I agree with everyone else, between the two, get the SSD, and just forget about SCSI.

alrighty, thanks for the input, any recommendations for a SSD then?

[Aslan]

The OCZ Vertex seems to be the popular choice around here now. Intel SSDs are also good, but are more pricey.

[Mr.Guvernment]

hmmmmm
Seagate Cheetah 146GB for 325 bucks (http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14120DR3287&vpn=ST3146855LC&manufacture=SEAGATE)
G.SKILL FM-25S2S-128GB 2.5" 128GB SATA II for 290 bucks (right now its on sale so i save 20 bucks....) (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231221)
so lets figure this out here

128GB @ 290 bucks = aprox 2.27 per GB
146GB @ 325 bucks = aprox 2.22 per GB and this one has more space to!

so im getting a better bang for my buck with the SCSI.... (i had already considered a SSD then i did some numbers and found in MOST cases you get better bang for buck with SCSI :P)




hmmm thats a new term in my books, will have to do some looking up on this SAS =D, and it wouldnt be for desktop use :P...well not this one anyways XD, would be for a work station for the videos i edit (i do alot of filming for events where i am....)



yes but SSD has superior seek times, for the price of SCSI for what your doing, it isnt worth it

SCSI excels in MULTI-USER environments where alot of sources are accessing the same disk, just go buy aSATA raid card and make some raid 0 working drives and your done with for video editing.

Desktop / workstation usage is not as great vs servers environments. SCSI is old, period and there are better alternative already out.

Or just get an intel board and use ICH9/10R raid onboard and make 2 raid 0 arrays with 2 drives each and there you go!

[SeanChiarot]

yes but SSD has superior seek times, for the price of SCSI for what your doing, it isnt worth it

SCSI excels in MULTI-USER environments where alot of sources are accessing the same disk, just go buy aSATA raid card and make some raid 0 working drives and your done with for video editing.

Desktop / workstation usage is not as great vs servers environments. SCSI is old, period and there are better alternative already out.

Or just get an intel board and use ICH9/10R raid onboard and make 2 raid 0 arrays with 2 drives each and there you go!

thanks for the info =)

i think i will indeed be doing this once i get my finical situation fixed (just got a job and i got some....alot.... of things to pay back :P)

[Mr.Guvernment]

haha, always nice to get a job thought, especiually if you just started, cause you start making lists of all the cool stuff you really want to buy now.