View Full Version : What is the best ram Period? (ddr 2100)
Nate1492
01-23-02, 10:42 AM
I need ECC registered so I gotta stick with DDR 2100 (unless you can show me some registered 2400 or 2700 :-DDD)
Whats the best for OC'n? I don't care about money heh
Blue Jester_2112
01-23-02, 12:30 PM
I highly doubt you'll get a difinitive answer on that question, alot of people like alot of brands.
My opinion is Crucial.
Mushkin and Corsair are supposed to be excellent too.
herbal'|'
01-23-02, 02:57 PM
IMHO, Kingmax 5ns PC2700 is by far the best. I've owned Crucial PC2100 and OCZ PC3000 as well and the Kingmax outperforms them both BY FAR. It is the only Ram to have true 5ns chips, while all others have overclocked 7.5ns or 6ns at best.
Nate1492
01-23-02, 03:46 PM
And do you read posts? I specifically said "unless you can find registerred pc 2400 or 2700" for a reason.. My mobo needs it...
Unless you know of some registered pc 2700, don't tell me how much better it is than pc 2100.. I really don't care since its obvious it will be :p
Got any good ram at PC2100 or registered 2700?
Blue Jester_2112
01-23-02, 04:00 PM
Crucial, Mushkin, Kingmax and Corsair all offer quality pc2100 registered dimms.
All OC well.
herbal'|'
01-23-02, 04:09 PM
Yep, I was so anxious to reply I skipped right over the important part. I've never owned any registered, but Crucial would definately be the best bang for your buck. What board do you have that requires ECC Registered DIMMS? Unless you run a server or MP setup, a new board might be a good option, since you don't care about money (I can read, sometimes :)).
UnseenMenace
01-23-02, 05:05 PM
I believe the answer depends upon how you are going to run the memory, I have both crucial pc2100 and kingmax pc2100 and I personally believe the kingmax is better when run at default voltages. The crucials maximum performance appears to be a little better than the kingmax however it does need voltage increases to achieve this. The kingmax just seems to perform worse when the voltage is increased.
Nate1492
01-23-02, 08:06 PM
Dual athlon 1800s tyan mobo ;-)
Water cooled... all the bells and whistles
why you need ecc? what for is that; have people bad exp. without? - anyway i just bought infineon 2100 registered hope it 'helps' maybe - i'm maybe just anxious person :-)
Nate1492
01-26-02, 02:19 AM
Its fors servers... There was a thread explaining how ECC prevents the binary from being altered by cosmic rays (or just corrects on the fly)
An ECC correctable error will happen once a month if you run 128 MB of ram 24/7... So 1 gig of ram will have about 8 "f" ups a month... 4 gigs will have 24... Think one crash a day for a server.... Thats what ECC is for...
Registered is also for servers... Its used to move large blocks of inromation efficiently and accurately... Like a server needs. I only need ECC registered because I have a tyan mpx mobo which specifically calls for Registered and since more often then not... Registered is also ECC... Just as tability bonus which I know I will appreciate heh ;-0
Anyways...
...just went to www.whatis.com and looked for "ECC". Does not sound so bad, come on!!:-) It's just kind of additional checksum, if ok nothing happens.
" 1. When a unit of data (or "word ") is stored in RAM or peripheral storage, a code that describes the bit sequence in the word is calculated and stored along with the unit of data. For each 64-bit word, an extra 7 bits are needed to store this code.
2. When the unit of data is requested for reading, a code for the stored and about-to-be-read word is again calculated using the original algorithm. The newly generated code is compared with the code generated when the word was stored.
3. If the codes match, the data is free of errors and is sent.
4. If the codes don't match, the missing or erroneous bits are determined through the code comparison and the bit or bits are supplied or corrected.
5. No attempt is made to correct the data that is still in storage. Eventually, it will be overlaid by new data and, assuming the errors were transient, the incorrect bits will "go away."
6. Any error that recurs at the same place in storage after the system has been turned off and on again indicate a permanent hardware error and a message is sent to a log or to a system administrator indicating the location with the recurrent errors.
At the 64-bit word level, parity-checking and ECC require the same number of extra bits.
In general, ECC increases the reliability of any computing or telecommunications system (or part of a system) without adding much cost. Reed-Solomon codes are commonly implemented; they're able to detect and restore "erased" bits as well as incorrect bits."
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