gtx 260 x2 or a gtx 285

[creecher]

should i go gtx 285 or 2 gtx 260's?

2GB 285
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130486

or

896 mb 260?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130433

or something totally different?
either way, im willing to spend about around 400, and look to water cool in the future

[ratbuddy]

Well, since you already have a 2GB GTX 285 in your sig, the best idea is to pick up another one for SLI.

[creecher]

i havent actually bought that computer yet. im second gessing my self on the gtx285. so i dont have either. yet.

[Rattle]

285 isnt much faster than a 260 if you shop around you can nail a pair of 216 core 260's for under 325... or you can buy a gtx 285

[creecher]

....? so what are you recommending? im trying to get the best bang for my buck

[Rattle]

if you game at 1920x1200 or higher and are goign with i7 get a pair of 260's or 4890's, i was very dissapointed with the 280 and 285 compared to the 260, its really not worth approaching 2x the money and with a pair of 260's even for 300 after rebates and cashback its pretty much the best bang for the buck. Cheapest i seen a single 285 is $265, I have seen 216 core 260's for 150.

[ratbuddy]

i havent actually bought that computer yet. im second gessing my self on the gtx285. so i dont have either. yet.

Generally a bad idea to put hardware in the sig that ain't in the rig. Makes troubleshooting or advising ya on stuff that much tougher when it's really just a fantasy build :beer:

[creecher]

i have a 32 inch philips tv that i bought in january
it has a pc mode at 1080 by 720, so thats what i use

and honestly, i hate ATI. no offense to anyone whoe <3's em but there not for me.

so 2 260's would be the best?

[Kuroimaho]

For 1080X720 I wouldn't bother with SLI and the 285 is also an overkill, actually the 260 as well.

[ratbuddy]

i have a 32 inch philips tv that i bought in january
it has a pc mode at 1080 by 720, so thats what i use

and honestly, i hate ATI. no offense to anyone whoe <3's em but there not for me.

so 2 260's would be the best?

What model number is the TV?

[jason4207]

1080x720 is a strange rez. What is the native rez of the TV? PC mode is not always the way to go despite it's name.

[creecher]

1080x720 is a strange rez. What is the native rez of the TV? PC mode is not always the way to go despite it's name.

its native res (says nvidia control panel) is 1920 by 1080

What model number is the TV?

Model #: 32PFL5403D/57

[jason4207]

its native res (says nvidia control panel) is 1920 by 1080



Model #: 32PFL5403D/57

That is the rez you want to run. Hook it up via DVI or DVI-HDMI if you have to to get that rez working right. If PC mode uses VGA you don't want to use it as HDCP (copy protection) will prevent a full 1080p signal from reaching the TV via the analog connection.


Edit: Just looked up your TV. Looks like it's a 1366x768 panel. And despite what I said above, 1366x768 is the best rez to run. With that low of a rez it is pointless to go all out w/ an expensive gfx card. A GTX250 would be plenty.

[Badbonji]

He meant GTS250, but my advice is to buy a 24" with 1920x1200 before you decide to go with either of your choices, not even crysis will need that power really.
So I would buy a cheap 8800gts 512mb or something to hold you over until the GT300 series, and buy a monitor with 1920x1200 res. Even when I had my 7600gs, it looks so much better at a higher resolution. (even though I had about 20-30fps even in source games then lol!)

[ratbuddy]

I don't think it's actually a 1920x1080 panel. I believe that model is 1366x768, but can accept a 1080i signal and downscale it, so it's showing that resolution in the Nvidia control panel. You really want to run that thing at 1366x768. A single GTX 260 would be more than enough to drive it just fine. No need for a 1kw PSU either ;)

[pik4chu]

I replaced my GTS 260 with a 285 just this week because it was not performing as well as I liked even at lower resolutions (1600x1200 @22") I had several times it would lag out on me in CoD5. Loving the 285 and glad I upgraded. not to mention the PPD for folding it gives lol (close to 9k ppd) :)

[creecher]

actually, i just found out that its 1280 by 720 not 1080 by 720
is 1280 by 720 supported in most high end games?
so im getting the vibe that i just need 1 260, and that its still over kill

[>HyperlogiK<]

I'd go with a second hand 260 or a 4870 and then go for a DX11 card around the turn of the year. It will let you crank Crysis and you might easily snag one for less than a GTS250/9800GTX+ costs new.

[jason4207]

actually, i just found out that its 1280 by 720 not 1080 by 720
is 1280 by 720 supported in most high end games?
so im getting the vibe that i just need 1 260, and that its still over kill

It might be advertised as a 720p model, but according to the Philips website it's a 1366x768 panel, and that is the ideal rez to set your PC to.



http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/en/us/consumer/cc/_productid_32PFL5403D_F7_US_CONSUMER/LCD-TV+32PFL5403D-57 (http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/en/us/consumer/cc/_productid_32PFL5403D_F7_US_CONSUMER/LCD-TV+32PFL5403D-57)

[Chris_F]

actually, i just found out that its 1280 by 720 not 1080 by 720
is 1280 by 720 supported in most high end games?
so im getting the vibe that i just need 1 260, and that its still over kill

TVs are funny things. There are 2 main HD standards: 720p and 1080i

720p = 1280x720

1080i = 1920x1080

The thing is, the native resolution of the TV can be any resolution and still be advertised as 720p or 1080, or said to be compatible.

That particular TV has a screen with a resolution of 1366x768 (very common LCD TV resolution) and is sold as a 720p TV that is 1080i compatible.

Running it on a PC at any res other than 1366x768 will yield poor results.

[Haste266]

TVs are funny things. There are 2 main HD standards: 720p and 1080i



dont forget 1080p

it is true 1920x1080 res

1080i is interlaced.

[gigabit]

2 x HD 4890's might be cool.But anyway i just did just what your asking.I went from 2 x Evga GTX 260's core 192 versions to a BFG GTX 285.And it was a nice move.The GTX 285 is a great card.Got the same if not better FPS in all my games as the dual 260's.But i like the looks of two cards in SLI so i went back to 2x GTX 260s but this time i went with 216 versions and 65nm core over the 55nm .The 65nm seem to run cooler and OC better or just as well as the 55nm.But i think its because they have a Better heatsink and beside i can use the evga voltage tuner on the 65nm.You cant use it on the 55nm versions. Anyway i see pretty much the same pefromance as with the the 285.Only time i see my 260's being much faster is in 3Dmark06 and Vantage.I can vouch for either but i perfer the dual 260's even the 192 versions

[gigabit]

ops missed that.. can anyone say HD 4830

[ratbuddy]

2 x HD 4890's might be cool.But anyway i just did just what your asking.I went from 2 x Evga GTX 260's core 192 versions to a BFG GTX 285.And it was a nice move.The GTX 285 is a great card.Got the same if not better FPS in all my games as the dual 260's.But i like the looks of two cards in SLI so i went back to 2x GTX 260s but this time i went with 216 versions and 65nm core over the 55nm .The 65nm seem to run cooler and OC better or just as well as the 55nm.But i think its because they have a Better heatsink and beside i can use the evga voltage tuner on the 65nm.You cant use it on the 55nm versions. Anyway i see pretty much the same pefromance as with the the 285.Only time i see my 260's being much faster is in 3Dmark06 and Vantage.I can vouch for either but i perfer the dual 260's even the 192 versions

Er, read again.. He's using a 1366x768 panel.

[freeagent]

im pretty satisfied with the performance of my 285 vs my last card, wich was an 88gtx. the only things i dont like about it is the stock fan makes a whine noise after 61% cheap pos. and that guys who have owned it say other cards are better lol, i thought i was getting a deal, until it got to the border :(

cha-bling :(

[gigabit]

im pretty satisfied with the performance of my 285 vs my last card, wich was an 88gtx. the only things i dont like about it is the stock fan makes a whine noise after 61% cheap pos. and that guys who have owned it say other cards are better lol, i thought i was getting a deal, until it got to the border :(

cha-bling :(
You got that 285 out of the classifieds right?Because you just beat me to it..lolI came home from work and was gonna dib it but you had already

[freeagent]

yessir, i kind of felt bad because you were on a pretty good streak of getting scooped, 1 part after another for like 2 weeks :D

looking at the green in your sig says you made a nice recovery :)

[gigabit]

You remembered that..lol yeah everything is fine now.But debating on a new mobo.This one doesnt OC very well

[Chris_F]

Er, read again.. He's using a 1366x768 panel.

Yeah, at that res all he would really need is something along the lines of a 9800 or a 4770. Those cards should even be able to play Crysis on high at 1366x768 with AA and smooth frame rates. No need to go higher unless the display is upgraded.

[creecher]

no, yall are wrong. anything other than 1280 by 720 looks like crap. 1366 by 768 looks like ****. also, the 1280 by 720 has a 60 hz refresh rate anything else only has a 50 hz. trust ME. i own this tv, and 1366 x 768 looks terrible. i dont care what anything else says. the text looks just plain ugly, and pictures are distorted.

so would one 260 216c be enough for this, AND ONLY THIS, res?

[gigabit]

I know i had a hard time getting my Sylvannia 32 HD TV( 720p and supports 1080i) to work as a monitor.1366x768 does look like crap.But i couldnt find any res that looked all that great.Now I havent done it for a while since i have the xbox 360 hookup to it for gaming.It may have been 1280x720 im not really sure.But i know i had a really hard time adjusting this TV to work with my PC.But like i said even the best settings didnt look that great either.But my Xbox 360 looks great runing on it:santa:

[creecher]

I know i had a hard time getting my Sylvannia 32 HD TV( 720p and supports 1080i) to work as a monitor.1366x768 does look like crap.But i couldnt find any res that look all that great.Now I havent done it for a while since i have the xbox 360 hookup to it for gaming but i think it was 1280x720 that looks best.I forget which input that was though HDMI or the vga

thank you! some one else who actually uses a tv as a monitor. and if any one asks, im using a dvi to hdmi cable.

my tv actually has a PC mode (no idea what it does), but it looks the best

[gigabit]

Yeah mine does to.

[ratbuddy]

no, yall are wrong. anything other than 1280 by 720 looks like crap. 1366 by 768 looks like ****. also, the 1280 by 720 has a 60 hz refresh rate anything else only has a 50 hz. trust ME. i own this tv, and 1366 x 768 looks terrible. i dont care what anything else says. the text looks just plain ugly, and pictures are distorted.

so would one 260 216c be enough for this, AND ONLY THIS, res?

OK you're right, we're sorry. Running an LCD at it's native resolution is really a bad idea. Go ahead and get that GTX 260, it'll be just fine.