going the extra mile/degree :D

[pinkles]

If I dropped a sealed bag of ice in my res would that make temps cooler? or would that not work?

[Junglebizz]

Probably, until the ice melts. Then you have a bag of water that is displacing water that could be circulating leading to less water in the system and probably raising your temperatures more quickly overall.

[Sleepy_Steve]

Might be better to run water onto the outside of the raid via sprayers to make use of some evaporitive cooling... Then maybe run the feed line for the spray system through a snake / worm / whatever it is that they use in bars to cool down beer between the Keg and the tap for added chilling effect.

[Junglebizz]

Just don't go too cold or else you will create condensation on your water blocks and water dripping on your components is a no-no. You could completely insulate your water blocks, but in going the extra mile, are you trying to overclock really high, or just trying to run your system really cool?

[Bobnova]

Make some distilled water ice cubes, then you can just chuck 'em in.

[Neco]

Yeah, that'll fry your stuff REAL fast :p

[hokiealumnus]

Just remove the fans and dunk your rad in ice water. Be careful to watch for condensation, but it shouldn't get that cold. Better safe than sorry. To get the "extra degree" when you run a bench, move the rad up & down / side to side within the water, circulating cooler water in between the fins.

[pinkles]

oh, I was just imagining throwing in a bag of ice before a lan party to bet better FPS. lol evidently there is more to it than that :D

[Bobnova]

I don't see what's wrong with distilled ice cubes personally, that's exactly what drag racers do with their air:water intercooling systems.

[pinkles]

I think with a car you might have a little more room for error, just a guess. :D

[Bobnova]

Not by the time you have air:water intercooling, that means you've got forced induction (supercharger/turbocharger) and a good bit of it.
A sudden increase in heat kills a grand or four in engine every bit as fast as it kills a cpu.

[jediman]

problem is if an ice cube clogs a line. then u get owned

[axis01]

Not by the time you have air:water intercooling, that means you've got forced induction (supercharger/turbocharger) and a good bit of it.
A sudden increase in heat kills a grand or four in engine every bit as fast as it kills a cpu.

But you shut the engine down after the run. You don't cruise around stopping every couple miles to add more ice. Also, the ice doesn't cool the engine. It cools the charge air which makes it more dense. More dense means more of it per given PSI. More air in/out, more power made. That in itself would kill the engine faster than a little heat. :thup:

Adding ice to your reserviour is pointless unless you're just going for a suicide run or a benchmark. Trying to run it long term causes problems with condensation.

Axis

[thorilan]

BANZAII!!!!!!!!

[hinderpits]

how about those reusable ice cubes if you can fit it in your res you could just freeze 12 ata a time and switch it when it warms up

[pinkles]

but thoes have some weird not-water stuff in them right? what if it leaks into you distilled water?

[Spawn-Inc]

the problem with distilled ice cubes is you will constantly be adding water and having to drain it.

dunk your rad into a bucket of ice water with a bit of salt, that will lower the temps:)

(take the fans off.... )

[Bobnova]

If the intercooler stops working the engine starts sucking down HOT air, which causes detonation and holes in pistons within a second or three.


The fact that it's adding fluid to the loop makes sense to me.

[axis01]

If the intercooler stops working the engine starts sucking down HOT air, which causes detonation and holes in pistons within a second or three.


Obviously you've never owned a FI'd car. The only way for a intercooler to STOP working is to blow a hole in it or blow a hose off. Either won't cause a problem since the boost goes away. Then it becomes a NA'd car which isn't a problem as far as killing it goes. Leave the car comparisons alone, they don't apply here.

Axis

[Bobnova]

Obviously you've never taken politeness lessons, or read the thread.
The point of this was that air:water intercooler people toss ice in their reservoir, hence it could be done on a PM water cooling setup.


Moreover, an intercooler can fail quite easily without venting the boost, take one safeway bag such as you find on the freeway, and try to run it through the intercooler. Presto! In an air:water setup the pump can fail, or it can loose the coolant, or the safeway bag flavor.

As to whether or not it applies, both are a water cooling solution involving the exact same parts, the only difference is the one piece that the heat actually enters the loop from.

[thorilan]

ok guys enough.
the whole point of using analogies is to take a COMMON knowledge idea or event and apply it with the same set of rules for the same result.
using cars as an analogy is a bad idea because not everyone knows enough about cars in the first place .
stick to basics so everyone can understand even those who have imperfect english ability ( forgien born)

[Bobnova]

It's not an analogy either, it's something that is actually done in a nearly identical system. An analogy is a theoretical situation that bears similarities.

[pinkles]

wow, this definately got out of hand :D

I think I get the point though, putting Ice in your reservoir is more work than it is help...